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That's the problem, specifically. I have the omelette and the fish soup in my inventory, but the quest won't activate. I tried to do the quest with both the omelette and the fish soup in my inventory, but when I talk to Scarlett, she says she needs a balanced meal before to train me. It's as if my items aren't in my inventory. 

By the way, this quest of hers, Heavy Stuff, is in the completed quests tab, which is annoying. because I don't remember completing it, especially since my strength stat is 0.

And before you ask, my save is from version v.0.3, which I started from scratch!


game bugged on Scarlett's HEAVY Stuff quest: I can't train strength with her to increase my strength stat, even though I made the omelet and fish soup she's asking for in her quest. Either I did it wrong or this game is really bugged!

speculatively speaking, If MC reaches Level 4 with another evolution and gains infinite energy from the Dream World, he’ll be completely broken. His metamorphic regeneration will make him practically unstoppable, allowing him to tank almost any shit thrown his way. Since his ability is fueled by his monster energy, he’d easily become the most overpowered Level 4 superhuman out HERO.

Dude, I tried to talk to this crazy guy, but damn. All his comments are resorting to low-class insults. I'm tired of this crazy guy. I blocked and reported him, now let her talk to the wall.

Don't even waste your time with this brat, bro! He doesn't know how to comment or argue without resorting to low-class insults. I tried several times to keep the focus of the comment, counter-arguing and refuting. But this brat only knows how to swear and swear, my patience has limits. And you can see all his comments, and why he has so many downvotes.

Seriously, leave this brat alone. If he starts to annoy you, report him and block him. It's the best way to deal with trolls.

Ah, impressive. You managed to cram in a bunch of profanity, some unfounded assumptions, and even threw in a weak personal insult at the time. Truly a brilliant argument. Now, let’s break this mess down.

First, you keep insisting that I literally said the MC would fight head-on with no strategy, but somehow you can’t pinpoint where that was said. Weird, huh? Maybe because you’re twisting what was actually said to fit your narrative?

Then you accuse me of “twisting your words” while ironically doing exactly that to myself. Interesting strategy—not very effective, but definitely interesting.

And that last part? “No one came to your bitch ass defense.” Oh yeah, because obviously debates are won by like counts and cheerleaders rather than the actual quality of the argument. Very mature.

In short, you’re not debating—you’re just venting frustration and building a straw man to knock down. 

S.I.N. and the Question of Strength

You argue that S.I.N. is not weak because the "pink monster girl" (presumably Eisheth Zenunim) was able to take on multiple Level 5s. That’s a fair point, but it doesn’t invalidate the original argument. The initial statement never claimed that no member of S.I.N. was strong—it stated that without Ella and her students, the organization as a whole wouldn’t be able to hold its own against HERO in terms of raw power. Just because a few individuals are powerful doesn’t mean the entire structure is strong enough to rival HERO on equal footing.

Kira Kelsey and Elijah Gunvald, despite being Level 5, are only lieutenants, meaning they aren’t on the same level as their captains. It’s also worth noting that Eisheth struggled against a Level 5 captain—Bernhardt Gunvald—who defeated her without much effort. In Superhuman, victory conditions don’t depend solely on power but also on strategy and skill. Furthermore, Kira Kelsey and Elijah Gunvald’s abilities were not well-matched against Eisheth, meaning their disadvantage wasn’t just a question of raw strength.

Jared’s Father’s Control Over S.I.N.

The claim that Jared’s father must have full control over S.I.N. simply because it’s “his version” doesn’t hold up. The phrase “his version” can just as easily mean that he helped shape or influence the organization, not that he has absolute authority over it. Additionally, while he may contribute some funding, that doesn’t mean he dictates S.I.N.'s decisions. Even if his financial support is relatively minor, it could still grant him some influence—but influence does not equal control.

Furthermore, it’s worth mentioning that S.I.N. is nothing more and nothing less than bait to attract the attention of HERO, stemming from Ella’s background. The organization itself isn’t necessarily meant to rival HERO in direct power but rather to serve as a distraction or a lure. This makes the discussion of its strength or leadership structure secondary to its actual purpose.

MC’s Mental Resistance vs. Jake and Charlie

The argument that MC resisted Jake, who is supposedly stronger than Charlie in terms of mental abilities, is a valid point. However, resistance does not mean immunity. Jake’s abilities rely on the target being within his attack range and hearing his commands. MC was able to counter this by removing his ability to hear, effectively neutralizing Jake’s power.

Charlie’s ability, however, works differently.

  • Conditional Immortality – Charlie cannot be killed unless specific conditions are met. If injured by someone who does not meet these conditions, she regenerates instantly.
  • Geas (Mystic Rule) – She can impose rules on a person, and breaking them results in various consequences.
  • Taboo (Forced Restraint) – If the geas isn’t enough, she can impose a taboo, which causes increasing damage to the offender and can even nullify powers.
  • Pacts and Vows – If someone willingly enters into a pact or vow with Charlie, both parties gain benefits, and it can further strengthen the taboos she imposes.

Her power is not strictly mental—it’s based on invulnerability, rule enforcement, and mystical punishments. Just because Jake’s mental powers are stronger doesn’t mean they function the same way as Charlie’s, nor does it mean she wouldn’t have alternative ways to affect MC.

S.I.N.: Secretive vs. Deceptive

You argue that S.I.N. doesn’t lie, only that they have secrets. However, there’s a difference between “not lying” and “not distorting or withholding information.” Just because Charlie answered a question doesn’t mean S.I.N. as a whole is transparent or trustworthy. Answering strategically to control a narrative isn’t the same as being completely honest.

Accusations of "Twisting Words"

You accuse the other person of twisting your arguments, yet you interpret "Jared’s father’s version of S.I.N." as necessarily meaning he has complete control. Additionally, you take the statement that S.I.N. wouldn’t be as strong without Ella to mean that no member of S.I.N. is strong—which was never said. This pattern of overinterpretation suggests that the misrepresentation may not be on the other side.

At the end of the day, this debate isn’t about twisting words or throwing insults—it’s about analyzing the story’s logic and the roles of different factions. S.I.N. has strong individuals, but that doesn’t automatically make the entire organization as powerful as HERO. Jared’s Father has influence, but influence isn’t the same as control. MC has grown stronger, but resistance to one ability doesn’t guarantee immunity to another.

Instead of relying on extreme interpretations and personal attacks, a more productive discussion would focus on the actual narrative and mechanics presented in the game. If we want to debate effectively, we should engage with what’s truly being said rather than what we assume is being implied.

Oh yes, because clearly, anyone who disagrees with you must be blatantly lying and not, you know, interpreting the story differently. But sure, let’s pretend that screaming “blatant fucking lie” automatically turns your opinion into an absolute fact.

Now, about the MC not using strategy—no one ever said he would just charge in recklessly to fight 10 overpowered enemies with no plan at all. That’s a massive strawman you created because it’s easier to argue against something no one actually said than to engage with the real discussion.

And this part: "heck, he'd know to attack from shadows and shit since if they see him, he's dead."—exactly. The game has already shown that the MC does know how to use stealth when necessary. So why act like the only possible scenario is him running in like a lunatic to get slaughtered?

The funny thing is, you're criticizing something that no one even said and trying to refute a point that doesn't exist. That’s not an argument—that’s just throwing a tantrum.

Now, that is a such an eloquent and well-reasoned response. Truly, the pinnacle of debate. Let’s break this down bit by bit since you seem so emotionally invested in throwing insults instead of actual arguments.

First off, no one said literally no one in S.I.N. could stand a chance against a level 5. What was said is that, overall, S.I.N. superhuman is weaker than HERO at high levels, especially if you take out key members. That’s called context, something you seem to have a personal vendetta against.

As for the MC taking on all the captains and their teams head-on—where did that come from? If you’re going to argue, at least argue against what was actually said, not whatever headcanon you just invented in a fit of rage. Strategy exists, and no one is suggesting the MC just charges in blindly like an NPC on easy mode.

Now onto Jared’s father. Again, no one said he has sole control over S.I.N., but dismissing his influence entirely is just as dumb. “He barely helped them and they’re using him for money”? Yeah, because funding a faction that opposes HERO totally doesn’t give you leverage at all, right? Money is power, and being a financial backbone still grants influence, whether direct or indirect.

And your "we have seen no examples of influence at all" take? So just because Jared failed to intimidate some people by flexing his dad’s name, that proves his father has zero pull? Yeah, because every person in every organization automatically respects their higher-ups 100% of the time, right? Definitely how power structures work. If one soldier disrespects a general, I guess the general has no influence. Brilliant logic.

Now, about Charlie’s power—do you seriously think something can only be mental or only be physical? Ever heard of psychosomatic effects? The brain and body are connected, genius. Just because Cole spat blood resisting doesn’t mean it’s purely physical—it could easily be both. And your claim that "MC is way more mentally strong than Cole so he could easily resist it" Maybe he is... but not at his current level of power.It's pure headcanon, finding out that Strength ≠ automatic immunity.

And then we get to the absolute masterpiece of your argument: “We have no proof that S.I.N. is secretive.” Ah yes, because making  superhuman swear an oath as  initiation ritual, on live TV . totally means they have no hidden agenda. Right. You really think that’s all there is to it? That they just lay everything out for the world to see? That’s adorable.

And finally, the absolute cherry on top: “Your entire shit is twisting what I said.” The irony of this statement is just chef’s kiss perfection. You’ve spent this entire rant misrepresenting arguments, ignoring context, and throwing around “ throwing insults” like you’re in a middle school locker room, and I’m the one twisting things? That’s rich.

But hey, I get it. When you run out of actual points, just start flailing insults and hoping something sticks. Unfortunately for you, it doesn’t!

Ah yes, because clearly, the only possible explanation for disagreeing with you is assuming the MC is a brain-dead berserker who just swings at everything in sight. Stealth? Strategy? No, must be that everyone else is just “so fucking stupid” for considering different perspectives. Brilliant start.

Now, about Jared’s father and S.I.N.—nobody said he has absolute control, but dismissing his influence entirely is just as dumb. Even if he’s not the strongest individual, his role in shaping S.I.N. and its ideology is undeniable. Influence isn’t just about raw power; it’s about legacy, connections, and positioning within the organization. Also, you’re really bringing up “almost killing Nico” as proof of strength? Yeah, because “almost” winning is totally the same as actually winning, right?

As for Charlie’s power affecting the heart instead of the mind—cool, semantics. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s still a form of control, and resisting it still requires a strong will, which, surprise, is heavily tied to mental resilience. Cole resisting it doesn’t prove it’s weak; it proves Cole had the right conditions to push through. Meanwhile, the MC’s resistance isn’t a guarantee—it depends on stats and choices, meaning it’s not as cut-and-dry as you’re making it seem.

Now onto HERO. Yes, they’ve lied before—because, shocking revelation, big organizations tend to manipulate narratives. But if you’re using that as an argument against them, the same logic applies to S.I.N., which isn’t exactly known for being a beacon of honesty and transparency either. Both sides have their secrets, so let’s not pretend S.I.N. is some shining bastion of truth just because HERO has its own classified history.

Regarding MC’s growth—no one’s saying he hasn’t improved, but acting like he’s suddenly untouchable compared to the prison arc is wild exaggeration. Yeah, he’s stronger, but so are his enemies. Power scaling doesn’t exist in a vacuum, and just because he can harm Jake doesn’t mean he’s beyond being countered by stronger threats.

And finally, your argument about HERO ensuring they can kill MC if he gets too strong? That’s literally the point—HERO isn’t some benevolent daycare, it’s a system of control. That doesn’t mean MC shouldn’t use it to his advantage. You’re arguing as if acknowledging the risks somehow invalidates the strategy of exploiting their resources while keeping an eye on potential betrayals. That’s just smart survival.

So, in short—your argument is basically a mix of exaggerations, selective reasoning, and a lot of misplaced confidence. But hey, keep going. Watching people twist logic into a pretzel is always entertaining.

Sorry, pal, but that's not happening. I'm not creating a Discord account just to drop one or two counterarguments about the game. Besides, the comment section exists for a reason—we might as well use it to its fullest.

Actually, don’t even get me started. I still remember the good old days of debating anime and theories in YouTube comments! 😂 

Let's break this down from the start. S.I.N., Jared's father's version of HERO, falls short in several ways. While Ella herself is powerful, the organization as a whole lacks strength. Remove her and her students, and what's left? A group that mostly survives thanks to a horde of monsters—yet even those wouldn't stand a chance against a single Level 5 HERO captain.

Now, let's consider the strategic aspect. HERO has been around much longer, with far superior resources, knowledge, and power. From a purely tactical standpoint, it makes far more sense for the MC to leverage HERO to grow as a superhuman, maximize his potential, and only then cut ties when he's powerful enough to stand on his own. Why rely on S.I.N., an objectively weaker group, when HERO offers better opportunities for self-improvement?

There's also the issue of control. SIN members had to make a pact, and Charlie's power is notoriously strong. Unless the MC had significantly leveled up his Memory trait skills, countering Charlie’s mental manipulation would be nearly impossible. We’ve already seen that the MC struggled against Jake’s mental abilities during the prison arc, and they were both just at Level 2. If Jake's mind tricks were enough to affect him, then Charlie—who is likely even stronger—would have an easy time manipulating him.

And then there’s the power gap. MC fighting Nico (Level 5) is already a stretch, but facing five Level 5 captains and their entire teams? That's a death sentence. There’s simply no realistic scenario where he comes out on top unless he undergoes significant growth first.

That said, while I initially had issues with the MC being forced to join HERO after his identity was revealed, this decision makes more sense when looking at long-term consequences rather than just short-term frustration. If the MC exploits HERO’s resources, knowledge, and training to reach Level 5 and awaken THE EYE, then neither HERO nor SIN will be a real threat to him anymore. That would be the ultimate power play.

At the end of the day, though, this is all speculation. We should just let Weirdworld cook and see how things unfold—so for now, hold your horses!

Just to counter your comment. About the MC being able to go against the hero, at the beginning of the game, when the MC's identity is revealed to the world after the mall event. and you're going to escape the mainland. Nico kidnaps you, Michael, Alice, and Deryl to H.E.R.O. There is a dead end, where if you reject H.E.R.O's proposal, Nico will teleport you to space and you will die. And you will get a bad ending "You're not the ultimate lifeform just yet".

So, it's stupid for MC to go against H.E.R.O at his current level, H.E.R.O has many options to deal with MC and his friends. But when MC reaches level 5 and awakens the full power of THE EYE, there will probably be a chance for us to go against H.E.R.O and cut ties. I hope so! I was really upset when H.E.R.O's arc came out, and we were forced to join H.E.R.O with no choice, I liked the vibe of MC being a lone wolf.

thanks

Man, the game is good! The story is good and well-written, and the story has a concept of eldritch abominations, monsters, etc. A mix of prototype, the darkness and other stuff.

I've been following this game since version update 0.20, which I found by chance on the f95zone.com website. and it has become one of my favorite VNs of all time. If I were to put it on my list of the 10 best V-novels, it would be number 1. I recommend anyone who is still in doubt to play it and give it a chance. You can become an emotionless mass murderer or a hero who only kills enemies!

About the time, it depends on your reading style. If you read really fast or read slowly. Anyway, if you don't want to dedicate part of your time to this masterpiece, it really isn't for you. But go ahead and download the game, play a few hours and see if you can dedicate yourself to seeing what the game has to offer.

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them, I wish you all the very best in your project!

yep, I've been following your thread on the f95zone forum for a long time, I just muted it... due to the awful times the game has been going through, where even you stopped responding.

Anyway, so the cycle begins again. I'll keep that bit of optimism that one day I'll be pleasantly surprised by an update, but otherwise I'll keep checking in effectively.

I admit I'm glad to hear you've gone back to the old plan of just one major update.

Sorry, I don't want to be the one to be a pain in the ass here! but I know how it is, game development, especially indie development. But what happened with this game here was much more than just a developer delay. From the end of 2020 until the snow event update that happened at the beginning of the year, if I'm not mistaken, it was April Fools' Day. the developer of this game kept making mistakes messing around about the ETA of the game update, leaving a lot of people in the dark. it got to a point on the f95zone forum, that the dev was being accused of being a scammer. and he rarely showed up there, that is, there was no transparency from the dev.

I know that working too much on the game causes burnout, but it's much more serious than that. I think that after what happened, when the dev got burned by me and other fans, the dev learned to be more transparent with his projects. In fact, I know some games and devs who, even though they're just guys making their own games, manage to be more punctual with updates than the HHG dev. I'm far from being the annoying guy here, more of a critical opinion here.

I don't know, you can call me annoying. But after years of being in the dark following this game, and several comments on the f95zone website saying that he was a scammer because he simply messed up the game's update ETA. It made me indifferent to this game. If it ends in the future, okay, great. But if it gets abandoned, well... life goes on! Because I don't hold this game in high regard anymore.

I see, thanks for the heads up! I played this game in 2020, then played it again in May of this year when the dev released that snow event after almost 3 years, leaving us in the dark. For me that was the end of the line, I don't even hold this game in high regard anymore, I just visit from time to time to see if the game continues or has died.

So, one question... is the game still going or is it a dead project from 4 years ago that I played?

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No, I don't think so! On the contrary, I strongly disagree with your comment! MC's body has always been strong, it has always shown excellent potential. Look at MC's fight against the monstrous Kenny in the Frat House Massacre arc. MC was able to go toe to toe with the monstrous Kenny even at level one, and with very few trainings! And in the fight against the birb knight "Valravn" in the hero arc. MC was still at level two, and he was able to go toe to toe with Valravn even though he was weakened. I mean, MC's regeneration, is one of the most strong and powerfull things in this game and makes him the most durable in physical combat compared to other superhumans.

The problem here is this forced script, which prevents MC's potential from growing too much, so that the story develops the way it wants. After all, the dev doesn't want an Ella 2 running wild! Let's remember that Ella, level 4, gave trouble to Hero Captains like Clark and Alexis, who were level 5.

Anyway, concluding here, I think that in a physical fight against MC and his regeneration, if the enemy doesn't use persistent damage, such as being set on fire, poisoned or soaked in acid, there is no way for MC to lose, unless the script makes him lose in the silliest way possible.

Hmmm, hey, sorry if I was rude or stupid! I had a bad experience with dev scammers or lazy people who would fool their community with fake updates that never came. That's why nowadays, when I don't see any sign of a game being updated, I just abandon it and move on.

Anyway, it's a shame that the flooding incident happened! I hope you get back what you lost twice as much.

So, I'll give it a chance when it's complete, or at least with half of the game's content.

Bruh! good luck at you dev project, but going a year without an update  and having to wait more, is the end of the line!

maybe, I'll give this game a chance when it's complete!

good luck!!!

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Ah, I understand. And to answer the question, not much really, the free version of the game will be released when the next version of the game is in the hands of the patrons. In other words, free users are always late for an update!

Please explain, I didn't understand your question!

almost 1 year without a game update, the project is practically dead!

In fact, Genex Love was their game with the most updates, 1 every three months, this was clear to the patrons. We  f2p waited an extra month or when a caped hero leaked the game on f95zone, which was tough, but it happened time in time. Either way, again, you should focus on one project at a time as a solo developer, to reduce your workload and improve your health.

It’s completely understandable that personal issues can interfere with work, especially illness, as there’s no set schedule or timeline… especially in something as demanding as game development, especially with complicated health situations.

However, this could be a sign that it might be worth reviewing the development plan and considering changes to the update strategy. Keeping players informed about progress and realistic deadlines can help create expectations that are more in line with reality.

While you may not have the resources or confidence to hire or work with someone else, you may want to consider alternative support options, such as collaborating with other developers on a temporary basis, working on job boards, or even seeking creative partnerships that can help keep the work flowing even during tough times.

If finances are a major obstacle, you may want to explore alternative ways to raise funds. Consider a steady job to provide a more stable life for yourself and your family. A steady job provides a predictable income and can alleviate the financial stress you’re facing. With a secure source of income, you wouldn’t have to rely solely on monetizing your game to support your family.

With your income secure, you could reinvest it into improving your project, such as development team or tools for larger updates, increasing your long-term return. Additionally, without relying on your game’s profits, you would have more time to take care of your health and maintain the quality of your project. And having a steady job would allow you to truly evaluate your game’s potential without compromising your current financial stability.

Anyway, 2024 really wasn't your year. But don't let that discourage you, focus on one project and take it slow and gradual. Don't overwhelm yourself, take better care of your health and look for alternatives.

And may 2025 be better than this year for you, That's my best wishes for you!

First of all, I want to say that your games are very good, and Genex Love is especially remarkable to me. I believe that many fans, like myself, recognize and appreciate your talent. That said, I would like to share a constructive suggestion about the pace of updates.

The problem is that your updates are inconsistent, receiving almost 1 to 2 updates per year! If we receive 3 updates or more, it's a profit!

I know that development can be challenging, especially for someone working alone, but perhaps prioritizing the completion of one project before starting another would help maintain a more consistent flow, making the process less overwhelming.  I've seen countless games abandoned because of this, due to lack of focus, not to mention life's obstacles!

One possibility could be to finish Reboot Love 2 before starting to seriously develop Genex Love 2, after all it only has 2 hours of gameplay, which I assume is in the early stage. Focusing on one project at a time could make the updates more regular and predictable, and stop making more games when your hands are full. which I think would be very pleasing to the community!

If it's feasible, considering the help of a small team could be a great idea to lighten the load and allow you to focus on what matters most: creating unique experiences for your players!

Thank you for your work on Genex Love, I'm excited to see what's next.

Yeah, i know!  it's been 10 months waiting for an update and another 1 month until the version reaches our hands. Because first we have the patrons and then we have the mobs, unless some unknown hero leaks the game on the f95zone forum.

yes, probably... in a month or so or when another version of this game is in the hands of patrons.

Finally, back to the game. I hope that in your time off, you had a good rest.

nah, game and the dev is dead. The last update was at the end of November last year and we are already in the middle of 2024. Dev is dead and the project is abandoned, it's not precipitation, it's just facts!

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unfortunately yes, the dev of this game created another game called demon charmer and focused on it, forgetting this one.

also, There was a vote on his patreon to continue this game or not, not won by 2? But he said he would at least like to give it a proper finish to some degree.

How does that not answer the question dude? I just explained that all games kagruto makes are silent. no problem on your equipment, game that is really silent.

Take your time and keep the work hard!

game was abandoned? It's been a while since I've seen a decent update?

Dude, you don't even know what you're talking about! In fact, the old game was really good, but there was a son of a bitch who reported pedophilia in the game because of Wendy's content, so it became what it became.

This game at the beginning was pretty bad but over time the art and story of the game got better and have room to growth.

if people don't want to pay, well... that's their choice!

But anyway, I'm going to keep playing and praying so that this project doesn't end up like the old one.

You can wait around a month or even longer, this DEV is known for only releasing its game releases when a recent version is in the hands of patrons!

Doing basic math, since the game was split into two because of Android users, I predict that this will become available to the community, when part 2 of the game is done and in the hands of patrons.