THIS IS SO CUTE AHHHHHHHHHHH I LOVE THME I DID GENZUS ROUITE I LOVE HIM THIS GAME IS SO GOOOOOOOOD AUGH JOREFUIREJIREUIOJOIREJOFE
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SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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this was really sweet!!!!
i loved the art, and i really liked how edmund was potrayed- usually when i see the "person from another century" or like, an animal becoming human it feels like they always play into the embarassment humor and they loose alot of their character, but i didn't feel that way AT ALL with edmund! he was obviously from a diffrent time, it always felt like his speech patterns and knowlege of the word stayed consistent with where he came from and where he is now- and also consitently grew throughout!
i always noticed the speech patterns and habits with both of them and they felt very human! i could tell throughout the story how able was influenced by his "old friends" and acted like them despite resenting them. i like how you could tell what ables rude moments were based on, and how some of them felt so baseless until you think about what he's been going through. (Able: its been five months since my sister died! i should be over it already! me, who grew up with a grief counseler: oh, honey.)
i love exploring grief through characters, and found it very interesting from a narritive perspective on how able and edmund's sisters haunted the narritive. able talks about how his mom brings up kea constantly, and i feel like the narritive does a good job at making the reader feel that way too- exept a lot more satifying. and edmunds sister feels alot more distant, like how edmund is trying to make her feel. they are both trying to do the same thing in diffrent situations and i find that very interesting.
their diffrent experinces i feel meshes together quite nicely- edmund loved his sister so much she felt over beared, but she loved and understood him enough that she wanted him to live now that she was gone- she might even describe him as "free" from her. kea loved her brother, but they started to not get along not because of them, but because of the people who were comparing them. Able wanted to be free from his sister, but realized that wasnt what he actually wanted when it happened. able never got to say goodbye to his sister, edmund did, and neither of them are satified.
they both feel like such individual people, that complement eachother well, able needed someone to show him uncondicinal love, and edmund needed someone to show him how to love himself- or perhaps undersand himself is the right word. maybe those two things are synonomus?
i really enjoyed this story, it felt really nice to read and i like the dynamic of these two! and the other charcaters of course (who could forget about ms L!!! iconic!!!) very nice!!! thank you for sharing and i will DEFINITETLY check out the other stories in this series!!!
(also THE LAST PART OF THE LAST SECNE??? WAS THAT WHAT I THINK IT WAS???????????????????)
THIS GAME IS SO JWEOFJEOJKELWEKOKO AHUGHHHHHH I LOVE ALL THESE CHARACTERS AHHHHHFRHIJHERIJKJFW
THE WAY DIYA IS WRITTEN IS AWESOME????? SHES QUEIT BUT THE STORY NEVER FOREGTS THAT SHE'S THERE- IT REALLY FEELS LIKE SHES AN ACTUAL QUIET CHARACTER I LOVE HER
ARKARSHA IS SO FUNNY!!!!!?!?!!!! AND A REALLY WELL WRITTEN CHARATER LIKE THE MOTAVATION BEHIND HER FUNNINESS IS SO INTEGRATED INTO HER DIOLOGE ITS KIND OF TRAGIC ACTUALLY BUT ITS AWESEMELY WRITTEN IT MAKES ME FEEL BAD FOR HER BUT ALSO HER DILOGE IS SO IEJF3JWOFKE
NOOEL (IM TOO EXITED TO LOOK U PHOW HER M=NAME IS SPELLED JEIFJ) IS SO EKRMFKFMR THE FACT THAT SHES OBLIVIPUS AND NONE OF THE CHARACTERS CALL HER "INNOCENT" OR MAKE FUN OF HER FOR IT (at least when shes serious about it liek when min was talking ablout how girls do it min just gets worried about how sheltered she is) THATS SO REFRESTHING TO SEE LIKE I WAS ALWAYS CALLED AN INNOCENT UWU BABY BECAUSE I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THOSE KINDS OF TOPICS AND ITS SO NICE TO SEE A CHARACTER WHO DOESNT INTERACT WITH THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND THE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THEM DON'T USE HER AS VALIDATION FOR HOW "MATURE" THEY ARE WEJOOREJOKEROKWERF
MIN IS AHHHHHERHIHIRJIHR I LOVE HER I LOVER SO MUCH SHES SO WELL WRITTEN AND I LOVE THE MIX BETWEEN CARTOONISH VIOLENCE AND SERIEOUS VIOLENCE (EVEN IF SERISOUS VIOLENCE IS THE MAJORITY EROJJFR) IM NOT I VIOLENT PERSON AND ITS HONESTLY KIND OF EYE OPENING TO SEE A VIOLENT CHARACTER WHOS ACTUALLY WRITTEN TO BE VIOLENT INSTEAD OF THEM BRAGGING ABOUT BEING VIOLENT AND THEN NEVER ACTING ON IT ITS AWESOME
I LVOE THIS THE WAY ITS WRITTEN IS SO ENTERAINING AND ALSO IM LEARNING ALOT MORE ABOUT DIFFRENT CULTURES IM WHITE AMWEICAN WHOS IN 0 RACIAL/CULTURAL MINORITIES AND IVE ALWAYS BEEN SO AKWARD ABOUT TALKING ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT FELT LIKE THIS BIG THING I WOULD NEVER UNDERSAND BUT THIS GAME PRESENTS IT SO CASSUALLY AND I LOVE IT I LOVE SEENING THINGS THAT WERE MADE BY A SPECIFIC GROUP FOR A SPECIFIC GROUP IM LIKE I DONT EVEN GO HERE BUT I FEEL LIKE IVE LEARNED ALOT AND AM MORE CONNECTED TO HOW ALL HUMANS ARE DIFFRENT AND THER ARE SOME THINGS YOU JUST SIMPLY CANT UNDERSANT IF YOUR NOT APART OF A CERTAN GROUP AND THATS OK AND ALSO HOW EVEN WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE TWO PEOPLE LIVE COMPLETELY DIFFRENT LIVES THEY CAN FIND THINGS TO CONNECT OVER I RELATED TO SOME OF THESE CHARACTERS SO MUCH EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE HAVING COMPLETE;LY DIFFRENT EXPARINCES TO ME SOMETHING ABOUT HOW WE AS HUMANITY ARE ALL CONNECTED DESPITE AND SOMETIMES BEACUSE OF OUR DIFFRENCES AND I THINK THATS BEAUTIFUL
IM SO HAPPY PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFRENT THAN ME ARE BEING ABLE TO SEE THEMSELVES IN FICTIONAL SETTINGS MORE THEN EVER AND IM ABLE TO SEE IT AND LEARN MORE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO AREN'T LIKE ME ITS GREAT A THOUSAND KUDOS TO TJHIS GAME I SHALL BE PURCHASING THE ART BOOK WHEN I CAN THIS IS AWESOME YAYYYYYYYYYYYY I HAVENT FINISHED BS2 YET SO IM GONNA GO DO THAT I JUST WANTED TO WRITE A COMMENT BEOFRE I FORGOTTTTTTT I LOVE THIS GAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ THIS MY COMMENT IOEWJJ- just to be clear nothing is confirmed and this is what i think the game is trying to convey but personally i do think ryan is a true friend to june! i think him not being able to swim simbolizes how hard it is for him to not get dragged down with the rest of his friends, even if hes smart enough to know that they arent the best people to be around. he might have even stayed just for june, im not sure and i never will be!!! thats one of the fun things about SIG games!!! so many of the details like that are left up to fan enterpretation and its great!!!
MAJOR MAJOR SPOILERS FOR THIS GAME!!! AND FOR THEIR MOST RECENT GAME ROT IN PARIDISE!!! THIS COMMENT TALKS ABOUT THE NARRITIVE OF BOTH!!! PLEASE PLAY BEFORE READING!!!
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Ive loved elevator hitch for a long time now, but after playing rot in paradise and having that game resonate with me so much, it made me look back and look at elihitch with fresh eyes.
i havent had a good chance to replay it after playing RIP, but even from just what i remember theres so much hiding underneath the surface that i completely missed, all because i was looking at it from the surface.
its a given that we don't get any clear information on protags past. most of the analysis i see is from floor 4, which makes sense. the cross above the bed and how protag reacts to it indicating a bad and unfortunate past with religion and the ending four: parents are the two i see most often, and there are other things that some people pay attention to on this floor, including the sleeping pills themselves (personally i think they hint to protags deeper problems with anxiety and how its effected his sleep)... but there's another floor that i havent really taken into account when trying to understand protag more until now.
presenting the thing that spawned this whole essay:
floor 8.
when i first played elevator hitch the doppels were just something that inflicted that same feeling of confusion i get when first playing a SIG game, "confusion" as in "lack of information". at first glance it just looks like they took protag and coworker and flipped their personalities, but as i talked with them more my ~writer senses~ were screaming at me. i was fasintated by how their personalities were changed, but what i was able to deduce at the time, which was just them falling into desperation due to isolation, just made them feel...shallow. it was part of it, but none of what i could come up with, nor what i read from other people, felt like it was encapturing the whole picture.
then i played rot in paradise.
i already wrote an entire essay about the narritive and how much i loved it in the comments of that game, and to summarize the points i made in the conclusion is that SIG games are rarely ever about what's physically there- its about what those things represent. thats why the thing, the "she" thats being refered to in RIP isnt ever explained, because its just a vehicle for what the game is actually about: the narritive.
after i wrote this multi-paragraph comment, i started thinking about this game. elevator hitch, the one i love and will always hold a special place in my heart, and realized the game isn't about the physical horror of being trapped in a death loop.
its about protag.
i realized that what i was missing in understanding the doppels wasn't missing, i was thinking that the whole entire purpuse the doppels were there was to enforce the horror of being trapped, but that was only there as a vehicle for protags narritive.
i think the doppels purpuse, specifically antag, is to show more about how protag was raised by his parents.
realizing this felt like my brain was being rewired. it felt so clear! of course the game is about protag! he's litterally the protaganist! this made me think about other things i was confused about while playing this game- what does the raidioactive room represent? why is the answer to the test in there? is the floor connected to the fake cubeicule where you get the cake? if so how???
the reason RIP resonated with me so much is that i knew people like june's friends, i had a best friend like vonnie! (even down to the food disorder- like that was kinda dejavu-ish ngl) AND i had someone like carmen- a best friend who was a terrible influence on me. this is what i love about how Rachel and rix write narritives. they write for themselves, for what they've experienced, and in doing so they attract such a loyal and passionate fanbase that feels seen. all because two artists have a passion.
thank you so much for sharing these games, they genuinely leave me feeling chilled and evoke that specific feeling of terror, and you both write stories in a way that i havent found in a long time, and i hope people feel as connected to my stories one day that they feel connected you yours. you both are my inspiration, and i want you to know that these games- and your studio as a whole -has cemented its place in my heart, and will always be special to me.
thank you. <3
i. this game was so good i.
ok so i spent the litteral two hours after i played the game responding to chiiaki's comment abolutely just GUSHING bout the narritive and how its not about whats actually happening and its about the relationships between the characters and how the lack of information given makes the game SO MUCH MORE CHILLING AND SPOOKY but i wanna make my own comment so
the way you guys wrote the characters SO WELL it gave me CHILLS
the way that McCoy is genuinely rude but belives it to be ok becase he said sorry afterwards, and the FORESHADOWING TO HIM HITTING JUNE DJDJIWEJREF
the way that vonnie thinks hating things and having negative veiws makes her more mature and therefor better then everyone else
the way carmen is a bad influence on june but its hidden by her pretty an unasuming exterior
the way ryan genuinely cares about june but him nOT BEING ABLE TO SWIM AS A METAPHOR FOR HIM NOT BEING ABLE TO LEAVE HIS BAD FRIEND GROUP
AND HOW THEY GENUINELY SEEM LIKE ACTUAL PEOPLE WITH GOOD QUALITIES THAT JUST SO HAPPEN TO FALL INTO THE WRONG THINGS AND HOW THEY CAN BE GENUINELY BE LIKEABLE AS CHARATERS BUT ARE STILL THE ANTAGONISTS IN JUNES STORY ERKJGNKRJJLSNGL
i love the way you guys write narritives i swear im so inspired right now you guys hit me way too close to home on this one GHAHHHJRIEJKN I LOVE YOUR GAMES GRRRRRRRRRR
i just finished playing and as someone who LOVES a good medaphor i desprately want to give my two sense on this so i hope you dont mind what might be a long ish reply
i think the "rot" (or when everyone started decaying mentally and physically) is a metaphor for junes friends slowly starting to change, and in turn noticing how june wasnt.
from an outsider prespective it was clear to me how alot of the "joking" her friends were doing (for example when McCoy was sad that june wasnt the last to get there, and when he called her lazy) was actually serious.
ryan is the only one who seems to genuinely care for her, and i think him leaving his jacket behind for june is representing that, but i also think that him not being able to swim is representative of him not being strong enough to leave with june. he wants to, but in the end he cant.
alternitively, june is aware of her boundries, aware of what makes her feel comfortable- and more importantly what makes her feel unsafe. in the ending where she follows them into the sea, ryan holds tighter onto her hand. i think this represents how she desprately wants everything to just go back to the way it was, and uses trusting ryan as an exuse to stay with the people who are pushing her away, hoping that everything will go back to normal eventually.
and what really hits home for me is that: the only thing keeping her there is fear. she knew she was in danger, she knew everything around her wasnt right, she knew her friends were acting the way they were acting, but it was the trust she has for them that made her want to stay. she trusted that this wasnt actually them, that there was something wrong and if she can just get them off this island then everything will go back to normal,
and it was only when there was a real threat, when she was physically being away in a way that she couldnt deny anymore, that the trust was stripped away and left only her fear of being abandoned. it doesnt matter who shes with at this point- as long as shes not alone.
in the ending where she swims back up, the fog horn goes off. this implies that she saved herself. she realized that her friends werent her friends anymore, and that she wasnt willing to drown herself for them. she loved them- still loves them. her leaving them doesnt change that, but its better to leave someone whos hurting you then to stay with them becase you love them. sometimes all you can do for someone is hope for them.
i think its important to note that this does not mean that these people were never her friends. people grow, and people change. and sometimes the people who care about you are changed in ways you cannot help, and you want to help them- save them, but sometimes they dont want to be saved. and theres nothing you can do but save yourself.
i think the reason im so drawn to studio investegrave games is how narritively focused they are: rarely are their games ever about whats pysically happening- thats why they dont explain whats bringing everyone to the sea. becase it doesnt matter whats at the bottom, it matters what it represents.
thank you for coming to my ted talk about why SIG games are my favorite genre of games. oh my gojdjfdk i spent like two hours on this reply im gonna go pass out and vividly swirl this game in my head now.
i am devastatingly stuck between wanting to play the demo now or waiting until its finished ;-; does anyone have any opinions on this topic because im almost done with the OG 'our life' and absolutely ADORE it and this looks AMAZING ESPECIALLY CUZ MY FAVORATE SEASON IS FALL AND ORJFNEOSILTTEJG *sits in my corner conflickted
im currently making a fan game (that most likely wont be done in time for this jam but hey its worth a shot) and it would require you to play the original game to understand litterally anything thats going on (the game is free on this very website its called elevator hitch [GO PLAY IT]) so is that cool orrrrrrrr *explodes*
(why am i doing this i once cried becasuse my friends thought my art looked funny they werent even being mean abt it they were making exelent points that helped me improve)
"Worst Visual Novel Ever" Challenge community · Created a new topic how does one defeat the perfectionist demon
i saw this jam and its literally PERFECT because im sitting here with ren'py just sitting open trying to rack my brain because i LOVE a well written dating sim and i really wanna make one of my own but also the task seems so daunting and also idk if its the right medium for me so this seems like a good way to test that
but i also cant get rid of that feeling thats like
"oh, you wanna make a bad game? thats bad on purpose? alr cool! lets make the BEST WORST GAME EVER!!!"
y'all feel me
GAH. THIS LIL GAME WAS SOO CUTE!!!!
i loved the suble hints of lore here and there and honestly how relateable...certain characters were (i am so oblivios to romance CONRAD YOURE NOT ALONE)
i loved playing this before i went to bed it was very nice to wind down with :]
if you need smth to play for an hour or just wanna have a good time and read a cute n funny story i 100 percent reccomend!