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How many players does this support?

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Hi Steven! I just played this with my friend, it was fun and I can see the potential but it was too hard to continue until the end. Here is my feedback in no particular order:

Context

  • Played this on a call over the internetz.
  • I was the grandma, my friend was the grandson.
  • Played for around 10-15 mins, before I gave up.

Gameplay thoughts

  • This is my main pain point, I was constantly scrolling up and down to find responses. Sometimes even searching didn’t help me to find an appropriate option. It would’ve been easier if they were grouped together to sections. For example, utterances, settings, login field, other. These are just arbitrary groups I came up with, you can come up with better ones.
    • I didn’t know there was an ‘uhh’ option to stall my friend, until I came across it by chance after scrolling quite far down.
    • The scroll position is maintained which is fine for normal cases. But if you then use the search, this could give the illusion of no results (if you already had scrolled down previously). If the search did in fact give results, you have to scroll up to see them.
  • This game is better played if the Grandma has more time to read through all the possible responses first, or is the whole point that they have to search and click? I would like to alleviate the problem of grandson waiting too long for a response.

Instructions need more clarity

  • I’m not sure what the dictation thing was about. I followed the instructions to turn on “Getting to know you” but the game was forever saying ‘Waiting for player one to speak’ or something. Even though he was speaking throughout. UPDATE: I did not watch the in-person video until now. So THAT’S what it is, it might be worth explaining explicitly that is only for in-person.
  • I recommend adding the same instructions into the game (as you’ve written here). There is a chance someone might not properly read this page or even the README file at all.
  • I didn’t know that starting the game would start grandma’s voice (what she said about getting hacked), I had to restart the game so my friend could hear that part. Perhaps this should be manually initiated.
  • I had no idea what the sad emoji button did, so I pressed it not realizing it’s like another way to potentially end the story.

Are we the right audience?

  • Me and my friend pretty much never use facebook, so we didn’t even have the picture in our minds on how the UI looks. It has been a while. The responses seem like they were created for someone who kind of has an idea of what to look for.
  • For us, the first thing that he asked me ‘Grandma, what’s your email?’. I struggled to find a response for that. You may want to consider what happens when people veer off-script. Or play test with more people? (I dunno)

Other

  • The ringing noise at the beginning was super loud, I had my headphones on at first and it blasted into my ears.
  • The response about cooking dinner for grandpa was funny, but we didn’t expect it to go on for that long! lol.
  • Zoom is not the only online chat program, maybe you can just replace ‘zoom’ with the wording ‘any online calling app’ or even over the phone.

Thank you for creating this. I am happy to try again if it gets any updates, sad I couldn’t play until we reached a resolution!

P.S. The Player count under ‘More information’ for this page says Singleplayer.

Thanks for giving me a general guideline, this makes a lot of sense and will help me better navigate the site!

Definitely agree, it’s been more than a year since I joined and this still frustrates me.

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Hi Crescendo, I came to know your story through the queer games bundle. Although I’m hetero, I wasn’t gonna let that stop me exploring what other fellow humans have made.

  • The music is relaxing, I like it. I feel like I am staring at the stars. It helped me to smell the bakery and see the romantic balcony.
  • The colours really do add to the experience, I like it.
  • I got the warm fuzzies reading this story, it did the job.

I put more detailed feedback on your devlog. Keep doing what you’re doing!

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Thanks Anjali for the info. Really help me to categorise. Congrats on version 2.0, I will let you know if I get to this, but for now I’m just making collections to put games into boxes :)

You’re right. It is important to me as a newbie to have this basic information. Veterans can easily skip over it if they can’t stand it, there’s no damage done. If you exclude it for newbies, why would they bother reading further about the game, if they don’t know these basic facts? You’re shooting yourself in the foot.

It’s a big gap that I see in all the TTRPG game descriptions here. It makes it really hard for me to put things neatly in categories (GM? GM-less? Optimal number of players? Playtime? Solo?). That’s the first thing I want to know, before I read a single word of the game. I compare it to reading minimum requirements for a video game.

You didn’t clarify whether 2-4 includes a GM or not, but I’m going to assume it does not. So when you say 2-4 players, I assume you mean 3-5 people.

Will it be covered in ‘itch.io Digest — weekly summary of featured games and top releases’?

Birthright community · Created a new topic Newbie questions

I am new to tabletop fun so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes a GM.
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

I am new to tabletop fun so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes a GM.
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

I am new to tabletop fun so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes a GM.
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

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I am new to TTRPG so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes a GM.
  • What is the average play time? (actually it’s in your tags, but good to write ‘about half an hour’ in your page description too)
  • Is there a solo mode or not? (I doubt it)

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

Reposting with more context:

I am new to TTRPG so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes a GM.
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

Reposting my message from a year ago, but this time with more context.

I am new to TTRPG so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes a GM.
  • What is the average play time? (actually your game is tagged as a few hours, but good to add to page description)
  • Is there a solo mode or not? (I doubt it, otherwise you would’ve mentioned it)

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

I am new to TTRPG so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes a GM.
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

Reposting with more context:

I am new to TTRPG so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

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Repost with more context:

I am new to TTRPG so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes a GM.
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

Reposting message from a year ago, but with more context.

I am new to TTRPG so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes the GM.
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

Reposting my original message from a year ago, but with more context.

I am new to TTRPG so I have some questions:

  • How many players does this game support? (min/max) Please clarify if your number includes or excludes the GM.
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I get frustrated because it seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to people who are already into TTRPGs, but not to me as a noob!

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Sorry I never got back to you because you did a new comment instead of ‘Reply’ on my original message.

Is this including or excluding a GM? I am new to TTRPG. If it includes a GM then it’s 3 people minimum? Maybe I should’ve asked how many people, not players.

When I browse itch.io, I get frustrated because a lot of game pages don’t even mention the number of players. So I have come to learn that 3 people is the minimum for a lot of TTRPGs. This doesn’t fit my needs right now, I mostly can play solo or 2 player games. But I am categorising 3+ player (including GM already) in my own collections. So in future, I can open it up and browse it again.

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game page descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

Minimum 2 players + 1 facilitator? I’m new to TTRPG.

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

Asking again, realized I got no answer a year ago.

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG, am I right in saying this is not a game but an ‘add on’ to supplement any games that I would run? Is that what you mean by adventure site?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?
  • Is there a solo mode or not?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?

I am new to TTRPG. It seems this information is not included on a lot of game descriptions on itch.io. Maybe it’s obvious to most people, but not to me!

  • How many players does this game support? (please clarify if it includes or excludes the GM)
  • What is the average play time?