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PICO-8

A fantasy console for making, playing and sharing cute 32k cartridges. · By lexaloffle

Stop asking for pico-8 to be free the devs need to make money to live

A topic by krissy980 created Apr 26, 2021 Views: 3,595 Replies: 18
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The devs for pico-8 need to make money to continue to make and improve it, if  every one didn't pay for pico-8 then they cant keep on working on it, its only $15 AU or its like $8 US  its cheaper than buying Minecraft java just buy it its cheap and once you do that its yours forever.  Also trying to get a paid game/app for free via pirate bay, AGFY and others is stealing and that's against the law.

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amen

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There is always Tic-80 which is foss. Free and open-source on every desktop platform :D

And i use it btw.

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And you can download it here

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OK I agree but WHY 15 DOLLARS!? make it like 10 dollars. I would buy it for 10 dollars smh

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but its 140-150 in turkey :(

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there's a thing called donations

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I agree with you, but in some countries $8 is somewhat expensive, like here in Brazil, $8, is R$48
But I still agree that the devs need that money, and make it free will only be worse for them

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worse, now with R$15 reais and almost R$80 reais, I only got my pico-8 because they gave me as a gift when I told them about my situation and asked where I could buy it cheaper

and where you could buy it cheaper?

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have in some itch bundles. but i got my key by a person on reddit who gave it to me for free "https://www.reddit.com/r/pico8/comments/okpoud/someone_help_me/"

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Yes. :)

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My unpopular opinion:

Even though there are some free and open-source alternatives like TIC-80, I still want PICO-8 to be free and open-source. The developers most certainly aren't by any means entitled to make money from PICO-8; The project will only make money if it has a profitable business model behind it. Building closed-source programs and selling them to customers is, obviously, a classic and tried and true way of making money from software development.

But even if PICO-8 was an open-source project, there would still be ways to monetize it, including:

  • Donations and funding from external sponsors
  • Some sort of non-free add-ons to PICO-8
  • Official merch, maybe
  • Official hardware to run PICO-8 games, maybe in a similar style to those Chinese retro handheld consoles
  • Consulting (if it even makes sense to hire software consulting from fantasy console developers, lol)
  • and more.

Obviously, none of these things are guaranteed to be profitable but could be a starting point if PICO-8 suddenly turned into open-source software.

Nevertheless, I'd probably still buy PICO-8 if had the cash to spare - the Dollar exchange rate is really high here in Brazil. Still wish it was open-source though.

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You completely missed out on the fact that you can also charge for pre-built editions. Like aseprite.

Sorry for responding to a dead thread, if it annoyed you just tell me :)

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>The developers most certainly aren't by any means entitled to make money from PICO-8; 

And you aren't entitled to get stuff for free. Its their work and they should be paid for it. I agree in that I wish it was open source, but its unbelievably difficult to make money on an open source project. Very few projects succeed, and only if they become mainstream. Even then its not guaranteed...look at the financials of GNOME and KDE.

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/3983662/major-open-source-projects-how-much-mone...

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It is really not expensive and it is definitely worth it.

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None of the free alternatives get the development support that Pico-8 gets. When I first bought it I thought it was expensive, but that was a year and a half ago at least and I still use Pico-8 all the time.

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Shut the fuck up and make it free ceo

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Agreed. While it does cost money, they are entitled to the money they get for the work they put into it. I wish it was Open Source because I stand for libre software, but I get why it isn't.  Its really hard to make money with open source...KDE and GNOME, the two most prolific open source development companies(even moreso than the Linux Foundation) barely get any money from their endeavors at all. To call them prolific is an understatement...sometimes I check the licenses of proprietary software for Windows and most of the time I find KDE or GNOME-based software somewhere in it. 

https://lunduke.locals.com/post/3983662/major-open-source-projects-how-much-mone...

I got PICO-8 in a bundle from 2020 and only recently realized I had it, but I was planning on buying it before I saw it in my library anyway. I might throw them money to help them out despite getting it in the bundle because man...Im loving this thing.