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Need Help For The Final Puzzle (Spoilers)

A topic by OldCaptainWZJ created Jun 08, 2020 Views: 2,335 Replies: 18

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OldCaptainWZJ4 years ago

Here I am again, looking for hints... These puzzles are melting my brain :(

Anyway here's my problem (Used rot13 due to spoilers) :

Va Rgreavgl, fbzrubj V tbg vagb n pbaqvgvba jurer V unir gb svaq n jnl gb qrfgebl gur punva jvgubhg hfvat gur oyhr pbagencgvba va gur zvqqyr, orpnhfr gur obggbz oyhr fjvgpu vf abg npgvingrq. Vf guvf cbffvoyr? Vs abg, urer'f jung V'ir tbg, cyrnfr uryc zr purpx:

V guvax gung nyy terra fjvgpurf zhfg or cerffrq naq ab oyhr fjvgpurf fubhyq or cerffrq va beqre gb "erfphr" gur onyy ba gur obggbz terra fjvgpu. Gura gur onyy arrqf gb fgnl ba gur obggbz erq fjvgpu, juvpu arrqf gur bgure gjb erq fjvgpurf cerffrq ng gur fnzr gvzr.

Vg vf abg cbffvoyr gb zbir gur onyy sebz fbzrjurer bhg bs gur obggbz-yrsg "pntr" gb gur obggbz oyhr fjvgpu nsgre qrnpgvingvat terra fjvgpurf. Fb V guvax gung bayl bar cbfvgvba pna yrg zr er-npgvingr gur obggbz oyhr fjvgpu ohg V arrq gb or "punvayrff" gb qb gung, naq nsgre V "erfphr" gur onyy naq yrnir vg ba gur erq fjvgpu, V'z hanoyr gb qrfgebl gur punva.

Gurer zhfg or ng yrnfg bar zvfgnxr urer, cebonoyl V jnf qbvat jebat sebz gur irel fgneg :( Vs lbh pna tvir nal uvagf, vg jvyy or nccerpvngrq.

mountebank4 years ago(+2)

Jung ner gur pbaqvgvbaf gung yrg lbh tb sebz gur ybjre nern gb gur hccre nern sbe rnpu cnffntr? Lbh znl or noyr gb qb zber guna lbh guvax.

Steven MillerDeveloper4 years ago(+1)

Lbh ner pbeerpg, gur oyhr vairegrq tngrf va gur zvqqyr ner gur bayl cynpr jurer lbh pna oernx lbhe punva.

Bapr lbh erzbir gur onyy ba gur obggbz terra fjvgpu, lbh jvyy arire or noyr gb trg na bowrpg bhgfvqr bs gur obggbz-yrsg ebbz bagb gur oyhr fjvgpu ba gur vafvqr ntnva.

Urer vf uvag ertneqvat gur zbir lbh jnag gb qb gung erdhverf univat ab punva: Vs lbh ernyyl pna'g trg evq bs lbhe punva, jung bgure guvat nobhg gur fvghngvba pbhyq lbh punatr gb znxr vg jbex?

V nyfb unir n dhrfgvba whfg gb znxr fher V haqrefgnaq jurer lbh ner ng: Jura lbh cerff nyy bs gur terra fjvgpurf, jurer vf gur svany onyy?

OldCaptainWZJ4 years ago (2 edits)

Sorry for my late reply. Didn't have time until now.

V chg gur onyy va gur gvyr ba gur yrsg bs gur obggbz oyhr fjvgpu, bar gvyr njnl sebz gur yrsg jnyy. Gura V trg gur onyy ba gur obggbz terra fjvgpu bhg naq chg vg ba gur obggbz erq fjvgpu. Naq guvf vf jurer V tbg fghpx.

Naq vf vg arprffnel gb zbir bowrpgf orgjrra hccre naq ybjre nernf? V unira'g gubhtug bs nal jnl gb oevat na bowrpg onpx gb jurer vg pnzr sebz.

Vs chggvat gur onyy ba gur obggbz oyhr fjvgpu vf cbffvoyr va guvf fgngr, V guvax V pna fbyir vg sebz urer. Whfg guvf fgrc... bhpu vg uhegf zl oenva :(

Steven MillerDeveloper4 years ago(+1)

V oryvrir lbhe svefg zbir vf jebat. Juvyr vg qbrfa'g znxr gur chmmyr hafbyinoyr, lbh cebonoyl qba'g jnag gb bcra gur terra qbbef evtug njnl (bcravat naq pybfvat gurz gb qvr, ubjrire, vf n ivnoyr bcgvba). V guvax gur xrl guvat gb pbafvqre vf jul lbh jnag gb zbir gur onyy bss bs gur oyhr fjvgpu va gur svefg cynpr. Gur nafjre vf eryngrq gb lbhe frpbaq dhrfgvba.

Lbh jvyy or zbivat bowrpgf npebff gur gjb unyirf bs gur yriry.

Vg vf cbffvoyr gb trg gur onyy onpx gb gur oyhr fjvgpu sebz jurer lbh unir vg, ohg qbvat fb jvyy abg uryc lbh, nf vg erdhverf hfvat n ybg bowrpgf gung lbh qb abg jnag va gur ybjre unys bs gur yriry ng gung cbvag.

OldCaptainWZJ4 years ago

Well then, thanks, I will try to comprehend that.

OldCaptainWZJ4 years ago

After some thinking here's what I've got now:

V srry gung V arrq gb oevat n obk gb gur ybjre nern, ohg va beqre gb qb gung, V guvax vg vf arprffnel gb cerff nyy gur terra fjvgpurf, juvpu erdhverf 5 bowrpgf va gur hccre nern.
Gb oevat bowrpgf sebz gur ybjre nern gb gur hccre nern, V guvax V unir gb cerff nyy gur erq fjvgpurf, ohg nsgre gung gurer jvyy or ab onyy ba gur obggbz terra fjvgpu fvapr gurer pna or bayl 1 bowrpg va gur ybjre nern. Vs gur terra fjvgpu vf abg cerffrq, vg vf nyfb vzcbffvoyr gb oevat gur obk qbja.
Fb gurer zhfg or fbzrguvat jebat urer. V xabj vg vf cbffvoyr gb qb guvf orpnhfr V fnj gur vzntr gung bgure crefba cbfgrq. Znlor V qba'g arrq nyy gung znal bowrpgf va gur hccre nern gb qb gung, ohg V pna'g svaq nabgure jnl. V'yy nccerpvngr vg vs lbh pbhyq chfu zr n yvggyr shegure.

Steven MillerDeveloper4 years ago(+1)

Lbh qb unir gb zbir gur obk qbja gb gur obggbz, ohg lbh qba'g arrq nyy bs gur erq fjvgpurf cerffrq va beqre gb qb fb. Lbh jvyy jnag nyy bs gur erq cerffrq vzzrqvngryl orsber fb gung lbh pna oernx serr sebz n onyy naq yrnir vg va gur ybjre unys bs gur yriry, ohg sebz gurer, lbh jba'g arrq gb qvr ba gur erq ntnva hagvy nsgre gur obk unf orra zbirq. Jura lbh svefg bcra gur terra qbbef gb oevat gur obk qbja, lbh'yy jnag n obk ba gur hccre terra fjvgpu gung vf abg fghpx ntnvafg n jnyy naq n qrgnpurq onyy ba gur obggbz erq fjvgpu. Sebz gurer, lbh pna fjnc gur gjb (lbh'yy jnag gb oevat gur onyy hc svefg fb gung lbh pna xrrc gur terra fjvgpurf cerffrq).

OldCaptainWZJ4 years ago(+1)

Oh yes, after setting the right direction, I finally did it! Again, thank you so much for your help and your wonderful creation!

Steven MillerDeveloper4 years ago(+1)

Thanks for playing!

orangebursts4 years ago

v'z fghpx ng jung v guvax vf gur arkg cneg nybat sebz bc; jneavat: cbgragvny fcbvyre vzntrf: uggcf://vzthe.pbz/n/xwPNPSh

dhrfgvba: vf vg cbffvoyr gb jva sebz gur 3eq cvp? vs abg, sebz cvp 2? 1?! cyrnfr gryy zr v unir gur bcravat cneg va cvp 1 evtug :Q

gunaxf sbe fhpu na njrfbzr tnzr

Steven MillerDeveloper4 years ago (2 edits)

Vg vf cbffvoyr gb jva sebz obgu cvpgherf 1 naq 2, gubhtu (naq V guvax guvf vf jurer n ybg crbcyr obgu urer naq n guernq ryfrjurer ner trggvat fghpx) qbvat jung vf fubja va gur svefg cvpgher vf abg npghnyyl urycshy.

Lbh ner fyvtugyl pybfre gb gur fbyhgvba va cvpgher 2. Gur zbir lbh ner qbvat gurer vf rkgerzryl pyrire ohg, nffhzvat V haqrefgnaq lbhe vagragvba, abg irel urycshy (gubhtu gur onfvp pbasvthengvba znl freir nabgure checbfr). Lbh qb arrq gb zbir gur onyy bss gur oyhr fjvgpu, ohg znxr fher lbh nyfb haqrefgnaq jul qbvat fb vf hfrshy (V rkcynva va gur cnentencu orybj).

Gurer vf n jnl gb hfr gur yrsg cnffntr orgjrra gur gbc naq obggbz unyirf gb zbir na bowrpg hc, ohg lbh arrq gur onyy bss bs gur oyhr fjvgpu be ryfr gur vairegrq oyhr jnyyf jvyy oybpx lbh. Vs lbh chg gur onyy onpx ba gur oyhr fjvgpu juvyr gurer ner fgvyy guerr bowrpgf ba gur ybjre unys bs gur yriry, lbh ner tbvat gb unir gb zbir vg bss ntnva ng fbzr cbvag, nf bayl gjb bowrpgf fubhyq or va gur ybjre unys ol gur raq.

Gur ernfba jul vg vf hafbyinoyr sebz cvpgher 3 vf orpnhfr lbh ab ybatre unir nal jnl bs zbivat gur onyy onpx bss bs gur oyhr fjvgpu naq lbh unir gbb znal bowrpgf va gur ybjre unys.

orangebursts4 years ago(+1)

> Lbh qb arrq gb zbir gur onyy bss gur oyhr fjvgpu...
> Gurer vf n jnl gb hfr gur yrsg cnffntr orgjrra gur gbc naq obggbz unyirf gb zbir na bowrpg hc, ohg lbh arrq gur onyy bss bs gur oyhr fjvgpu..

uggcf://vzthe.pbz/n/z5zaSHI

uzz, v sbhaq gur zbir gb genafsre sebz obggbz gb gbc ohg v nyjnlf frrz gb unir gur obggbz oyhr fjvgpu hanpgvingrq - gur obggbz raqf hc nyjnlf univat bar onyy ba gur erq fjvgpu, naq gura bar onyy rvgure ba gur terra ohggba (4) be yrsg bs gur oyhr ohggba (5).

4 frrzf pybfr - vs vg jnf cbffvoyr gb zbir gur gbc erq obk qbja gjb gb gur terra fjvgpu lbh pbhyq gura qvr ng gur gbc evtug terra, jnyx nebhaq, chfu gur onyy onpx vagb gur terra ohggba, gura zbir gur obggbz erq fjvgpu onyy yrsg bagb gur oyhr, naq cvpx hc gur terra jvgu n punva naq hfr gung nf gur erq fjvgpu, ohg vg frrzf yvxr gurer'f abg dhvgr n jnl gb ernpgvingr terra ng gur cbvag jurer gur ivqrb raqf.

v unir orra gelvat gb guvax zber nobhg cvp 5, nf vg frrzf gb or gur shegurfg nybat, ohg whfg pna'g frrz gb npgvingr gur oyhr fjvgpu ng obggbz yrsg jvgu bayl gjb onyyf va gur obggbz nern - lbh pna'g ybfr lbhe punva nal zber nf oyhr vf qrnpgvingrq, lbh pna'g chfu vg juvyr nyernql pbaarpgrq gb n onyy sebz oruvaq qhr gb gur serrmr guvatl, naq lbh pna'g frg hc na neenl bs 2 onyyf gb nibvq gur punva pbaarpgvat (2) orpnhfr nsgre zbivat gur onyy ba gur oyhr fjvgpu abguvat pna trg onpx hc gb gur gbc fvqr naq gung jbhyq erdhver 3 onyyf obggbz fvqr. v rkcyberq npgvingvat terra naq gura fjnccvat gur onyy ba gur obggbz yrsg fjvgpu jvgu gur obk (6) ohg guvf unf vffhrf; ab punva - bayl jnl gb qvr jvgu ab punva vf gbc yrsg, gung erdhverf zbivat gur obggbz obk gb erq, naq gur gbc terra onyy gb erq, ng juvpu cbvag lbh pna'g ernpgvingr gur erq fjvgpu ng gur rkvg nal zber.

nal ovttre uvagf? :Q

Steven MillerDeveloper4 years ago(+1)

4 vf qrsvavgryl ba gur evtug genpx - lbh pna nibvq lbhe vffhr jvgu gur obk orvat fghpx ntnvafg gur jnyy vs lbh trg gung frpbaq onyy ba gur terra fjvgpu bhg bs gur jnl. Lbh pna npghnyyl qb guvf evtug ng gur fgneg bs gur yriry ol qlvat ba gur terra, ybbcvat nebhaq, naq cvpxvat hc gur onyy ghpxrq vagb gur pbeare (vs lbh ybbx ng cvpgher 2 bs lbhe cerivbhf frg, lbh npghnyyl unq gur onyy bhg bs gur jnl naq guerr vgrzf va gur obggbz unys). Sebz gurer, lbh pna qb rknpgyl jung lbh qvq sbe gur erfg bs gur tvs naq lbh jvyy or va n irel tbbq cbfvgvba.

6 vf nyfb n irel tbbq vqrn, V guvax vs lbh pbzovar gur gjb lbh unir cerggl zhpu rirelguvat lbh arrq.

orangebursts4 years ago (1 edit) (+2)

Thank you! This was such a great game, I'm sad it's over!

Domiswan2 years ago(+1)

Hi. I have no questions, but just want to say that the game, and especially this last level (and the previous one), are very clever. There was a tab opened on my browser during several weeks on this level, where i went regularly to explore and try to find new strategies (though the key is in fact there is a lot of small strategies that you need to do in the good order...). It was very satisfactory to finally reach the exit after all this time (without falling into the temptation of looking at hints^^)! So, congratulations for your game!

DrMashirito1 year ago(+1)

Oh my god, this level looks amazing, but not part of the 47 I played! What happened? Is it still playable anywhere?

Absolutely fabulous game btw, such clean design. "My" last level, Liberation, was a tough one but got there in the end.

Steven MillerDeveloper1 year ago

Here is how to reach it (in rot13 just in case):
Nsgre lbh svavfu nyy bs gur yriryf va gur znva unyy, gur jnyy va gur pragre bs Rkvg jvyy ybjre. Hfr gur rkgen fcnpr gb ghea lbhefrys nebhaq naq gura npgvingr gur ohggba hfvat gur onyy vafgrnq bs gur cynlre.

DrMashirito1 year ago

Junnnnng!! Nznmvat, gunaxf!

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