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Jasmine flower46 days ago (2 edits) (+2)

Hii, about the jumping,

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We see Kai seemingly “helping” (or is he ? Cant even tell. Cant trust no one) our protagonist with his veil in the presence of the other pixies that have nothing but bad intentions

Why didnt they intervene tho ? Did they not see him or is it completely deliberate (but then they also didnt intervene when Shyloh choked tf out of Helios or when Rosario just went at it in the ending 1)

So yea, did Helios deem Kai’s antics with Sev as not a big deal for his plan ? Or did they somehow all got distracted and didnt see Kai helping Sev ? Or maybe Kai himself didnt have good intentions too in the first place

Deniz G. Lerosi44 days ago(+1)

You learned how to use the spoiler tag?! OMG, I still haven’t figured it out myself— you’ve got to teach me! Also, congrats, Jasmine~ I love the new name, by the way. <33

Okay, so I’ll try to avoid spoilers as much as possible, but here’s the gist: Kai did something in the past (back when he was the leader) that turned him into an outcast. Because of this, nobody really cares what he does as long as he stays out of their way. Oh, and unrelated side note: I tweaked his dialogue with Helios a bit to make Helios seem less suspicious to new readers. I felt like I was overemphasizing how much Helios looks down on Kai, so I toned it down a little.

Anyway, Kai is helping Sev because he wants something from her. (Spoiler alert— I can’t go into details yet!) For the first event, where the fake Shyloh (shapeshifted Rosario) attacks Sev, it’s actually part of their plan. They’re trying to make Sev believe it’s really Shyloh to give her a false impression of him.

As for the second event, that’s more Kai-driven. The veil he gives Sev helps reduce her pain (or maybe it’s just a placebo effect, like covering up a wound... who knows?) The other pixies don’t really care about this because, from their perspective, she’s going to die anyway, and they’ll get her pure life essence regardless.

Now, about Shyloh and Helios’s choking scene: Helios hadn’t given Shyloh the signal yet (he even explains this to Sev when she asks about it). The whole ploy was to paint Shyloh as the bad guy, and if the others intervened, it wouldn’t have had the same impact. Similarly, with Rosario, they didn’t care about her actions as long as the end goal—Sev’s death—was achieved.

Ultimately, Helios doesn’t think much of Kai because of something Kai did in the past. This event still affects him and his interactions with the others. Even Kai’s effort with the veil doesn’t change much in the end because Sev still dies. That’s kind of the theme with Kai’s arc; his good intentions don’t always change the outcome.

In terms of intentions, they’re split: in the first incident with the veil, he’s aligned with the pixies because he wants something from Sev (and no, it’s not Ehsas like the others want). In the second incident with the pixie's ending, his actions seem well-meaning, but whether or not he succeeds in getting what he wants is left ambiguous; it’s something tied to his route.

Hope that cleared things up a bit more! By the way, do you think the whole veil situation is a little confusing? If so, I could look into clarifying the demo text to make it easier to follow.

Jasmine flower44 days ago (2 edits) (+2)

It was time to switch from the keyboard smash I had as an username to expressing my love for the best flower in the world.

And here’s a tutorial on spoiler tags by me, first you go on your page and to settings. On your profile settings you’ll cross yes to the « prefer markdown input where available » little square and it will activate HTML text So now here’s how to write the spoiler tags (Leave a space when doing the summary line) so yes that’s it

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So to sum it up, the pixies are constantly in a IDGAF mood, nobody cares about Kai, he doesn’t have good intentions and his veil isn’t even guaranteed to really work. Sev is in the TRENCHES yea I would rather eat grass then be in her position.

For the choking scene since it was explained I didn’t problems understanding, but also, if Sev haven’t done anything would he have given the signal ? Or is Helios willing to die for that? But then if he dies = no leader so he probably would have made the signal 2 seconds away from having his throat crushed.

Tbh Rosario is probably the worst actor alive, like, he’s supposed to imitate Shyloh but didn’t even bother to also get his personality right. That would be funny if the pixies basically told Rosario « yea to weird Sev out just act as your usual self ».

Don’t worry for the veil part, I think it’s explained well

Btw I thought that Sev would have just been locked up somewhere and be drained from their ehsas or something, yk, something like a farmer that milks his cow but instead of milk the pixies get ehsas. But wow they straight up planned to get Sev killed 😨 Ill think of good ways to slander each of the pixies plus survival plans because there’s no way we’re lasting more than three hours in the routes ☠️

And I forgot, the most important question of them all. Do I have the chance of beating any of the pixies in a fight ? Additional magic and brass knuckles not included of course. Like on a scale of 0 to 10 what’s the probability of beating any of the pixies in a fight

Deniz G. Lerosi43 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

Yesss, jasmine flowers are sooo underrated! I totally missed an opportunity to add some flower symbolism to the game T~T Also, thanks a bunch for the spoiler tag explanation~ I’m gonna give it a try and hope it works—fingers crossed! UPDATE: IT WORKED YAAAAAAY <333

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Yep, the pixies really don’t care about anything except one thing: getting Sev’s life essence. Each of them has their own plans for it, tied to their personal motivations and sin arch-type. But here’s the catch— Sev’s emotions have made the essence all negative, so now they’re stuck trying to figure out how to deal with her. They could try being nice and shifting Sev’s perspective so her emotions aren’t so messed up, but naaaah— these pixies are too far gone themselves to bother.

Kai totally brought this mess on himself with something shady he did back when he was a leader. (The twist is gonna blow your mind, hopefully XD) Sev’s situation is rough, like really rough, but don’t count out the grass strategy just yet, there’s still hope! And hey, worst-case scenario, she’s flambé FSHGJFSGFJGFJSDGDJ

About Rosario— so glad you think it’s clear! Someone I had as an editor (who bailed in less than a week, btw) wanted me to spell it out more, and I was doubting myself. Like, is it really not obvious? So hearing that it lands is such a relief! Especially since I’m done tweaking the demo and was so not ready to dive back into edits again XDDD

As for the “milking Sev” thing… uh, yeah, it’s technically on the table. It all depends on which pixie would be most motivated to go that route. Think about their personalities and goals— who would go for a method like caging her, overworking her, or making her their personal slave?

And don’t worry, I’ve got you covered. She half-blinded Adonis in the demo? So, yeeees, you’ll totally get to fight back. Curious to hear which pixies have the possibility of dying LOL

If you’re fighting the pixies without powers, it’s like… a hard 0% chance of winning. Some won’t fight you, so there’s that, I guess? >u< If you’ve got powers, your odds jump to about 3/10, and with some clever psychological manipulation, you can bump it to 5/10. But if they don’t have powers and you do? Now we’re talking— 5/10 chance, or even 7/10 if you’re playing it smart. So yeah, it’s not all doom and gloom… maybe…

Jasmine flower43 days ago (3 edits) (+2)

(Phew had HTML problems …) Dont worry about the flower symbolism we already got Rosario, as beautiful, passionate and especially thorny as a red rose (his name means rosary in Spanish and Italian, how ironic knowing who he is …). And by the way, is Kai’s earring a lotus flower ? In some religions and cultures, the lotus symbolizes purity, detachment from the material world and rebirth. A hint maybe ?

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Sighs if only the pixies spent their time studying psychology and therapy instead of maximizing the art of evilness … it would be better not only for them but for Sev too.

I’m already afraid about what Kai might have done like, wow, is it THAT BAD ?! What must he have done to get ostracized by the embodiments of evil themselves ? Also noticing the scars around his mouth … Punishment for what he have done maybe ?

We’re laughing about flambé-d Sev but then I see the cannibalism tag on Yulen’s route and yup, Sev kebab might become a real thing.

Also, concerning about whether things are clear or not in the demo I think they’re clear enough. And even so, personal opinion, if everything was 100% explicit and obvious then it would remove the pleasure of thinking, interpretation, pointing hidden things out, connecting the dots and conversation about said things. (And also if everything was laid out in the open then I wouldn’t find new things to say every time I play the demo)

… now if I go to the trigger warnings section, I’ll guess it’s the red haired leather fiend or his old one-eyed buddy. Sev really cant catch a break even out of medical school 😕 Realistically in a fight with no weapons ? Im getting turned into shish kebab by everyone. But in a fight using wits, weapons etc it’s true that Adonis got half blinded. His reflexes doesn’t seem great so just saying, he can kiss his other eye goodbye … And I could possibly take Yulen in a fight just because he’s the one who annoyed me the most, overcoming obstacles by pure pettiness. For anyone above 180cm except Adonis I wouldn’t even try. (Not the unsure « maybe » after the it’s not all doom and gloom ☠️ it’s so over for Sev)

Also how long is Rosario’s hair since the majority of it is hidden ? This is very important to me

Deniz G. Lerosi43 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

Interesting fact, I actually considered writing down DID (Dissociative identity disorder) for Rosario in my earlier drafts! I’d planned for his dual personality to be called ‘Floreta’— one side would be super flirty, and the other would be really prudish, which would leave him conflicted about his emotions. But, I ended up scrapping the idea in the end LOL

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Also, oh ma gawwwwsh, you caught that with Kai! I don’t think there’s anything hidden from you anymore, haha XD You’ll also notice that the same flower design shows up on his tattoos. As for the meaning… well, I’ll leave that as a little mystery for now, but you’re definitely on the right track. As for what he’s done, it kind of depends on the person’s perspective. He made a choice that seemed like the most heroic option, but it ended up isolating him even more (feel free to take a guess!).

Imagine if the pixies actually went to therapy, though! Helios would probably turn the tables and be like, “Why must one satisfy your curiosity?” Yulen would definitely flip the table. Merka would totally exaggerate his sob stories to win the pity party. Adonis would either praise or punish the therapist, depending on how they respond. Kai would stay silent, of course, and Rosario would try to seduce the therapist to get them to spill their secrets instead. As for Shyloh… well, that’s for you to theorize! ^^

I see you’re really rooting for the Sev kebab, huh, Jasmine? XDDD Adonis does have the disadvantage of being half-blind, but I’ve got an amazing horror CG saved up for him—you’re going to love it! <33 As for Yulen, you could definitely try reverse psychology with him. The more you resist, the more he’ll enjoy it. Just play dead, and you’ve got a shot. Another option is Helios— he doesn’t really like getting his hands dirty; he’s more of a delegator.

By the way, I’m super curious— how many times have you played the game by now? You keep finding new stuff every time, and I spent a solid 4 months actively working on hiding them all FJSGHFJSGHFJSGFJ

Oh! And about Rosario’s hair, I actually have a pic from his character design sheet. Let me check if I can share it with you~

Jasmine flower43 days ago (2 edits) (+1)

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That idea of alter Rosario is making me think. Seeing that Rosario is very capable of rape, I wonder how his more prudish alter would have taken accountability for what the other one did. Or maybe they would have both used rape but for different reasons/goals ?

No, there is still something hidden from me and its the meaning of the faces of the painting. Ill have to think extra hard … as for Kai, I think he have probably done something disrupting the heroes/villain order, or maybe something having to do with the whole painting.

Maybe taking these guys to therapy is a bad idea, would probably result in the therapist going to therapy themself. Adonis kinda cracks me up, hes really acting like a teacher when he’s the patient. And if the therapist say something he doesnt like he’s straight up getting the whip out.

Now knowing Shyloh, he’s probably going to sing the glory of Sev during all the session and may crash out if the therapist might suggest that it’s not healthy.

Well what can I do, I’m craving for kebab, but I can also use other types of food, how about Sev méchoui ? And omgg can’t wait for the CG of Adonis getting what he deserves let’s gooo !! Even if there was no CG like this I would have drawn Sev heroically taking his eye out anyways. So with Yulen we can just bore him to death, seems fairly nice.

And also, might not try that on Helios, his face is too nice to mess up :( Im also biased as you can see and I love his Regina George type of personality Im not going to lie he destroyed Shyloh with the power of words

So, I may have played the game in its entirety 4 to 5 times, if I don’t count the many times Ive replayed small moments of course. And the stuff I find is mainly due to passion + overanalyzing.

Wow that’s a lot ! Rosario must spend a third of his day caring for it (the second third of the day is making sure his outfits fit him just right and the last third is maximizing his evilness of course).

Now Ive had a scary thought, are pixies fertile ?

Deniz G. Lerosi43 days ago(+1)

You got it! The idea was for both of them to have contrasting approaches to Sev, kind of like a “hot and cold” dynamic. Rosario would be the darker persona (like sexually assaulting her), while Floreta would be the lighter persona, trying to comfort her with aftercare, which would just confuse Sev even more. But honestly, I was really unsure if I could pull it off, since I only had one VN-writing experience under my belt. I kept wondering if I could properly portray such a delicate mental issue, so I kind of chickened out, haha. But I’m hoping Rosario’s current character can capture both their personalities in a similar way ^^

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The therapist quitting right at the start of the session when Shyloh starts praising Sev is such a funny idea. Said therapist definitely wouldn’t be able to make a comment about Shyloh’s dependency on Sev without getting choked LOL

Also, it’s hilarious that you mentioned the méchoui because I was literally writing a line from Helios about how everyone’s just a sheep to him FSHGFJGHSJFGJSG His backstory might mess with the whole Regina George vibe, but I hope you still like it! It’s tied to Shyloh, in a way…

Oh, and some of the commenters, like you mentioned, really want to take out Adonis’s other eye— folks really want to make him completely blind, huh? XD

And Rosario just has other pixies tie up his hair— especially a certain short-haired pixie who’s really good with his hands. But yeah, Rosario would never let him near his clothes. He’d just pin them all up haha.

And about the pixies… I gotta admit, I left it kind of open-ended myself. I’m still toying with the idea of Shyloh and Sev maybe having a kid together someday in their good ending… who knows?

Jasmine flower43 days ago(+2)

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Well I’ll be honest I prefer the current characterization of Rosario. I think it’s better that this contradictory behavior really comes from himself and himself alone rather than two separate alters. Like, it makes him have a lot more responsibility about his acts and so, we can see that he truly is in control of what he does and especially, a great manipulator. You made the right choice and Sev’s going to need lots of therapy.

Oh, so Sev méchoui really is canon, after all Hélios did say that she’s nothing but a sheep during the Great Jumping™ (that bastard).

Cant blame the commenters, since Sev took his eye he’s probably out for revenge. It’s kill first or be killed !

Rosario really is a diva because what do you mean Merka’s doing his hair lmaooo. I’m afraid Sev’s going to be his personal maid in his route.

Cant comment anything about the amount of mentions of hands concerning Merka because I know it’s tied to his route and it would be a spoiler 🤫

So there are chances Shyloh might be a dad, ran straight to my Shyloh obsessed friend to tell her the news. If pixies are fertile then I hope Rosario’s using condoms ☠️

Deniz G. Lerosi43 days ago (1 edit)

Aww, thank you so much for what you said about Rosario, Jasmine! I’m so glad he’s working out well <33

It looks like Sev’s endings just keep multiplying— we’ve got the Sev grass survival plan, Sev flambé /kebab/méchoui plan, and personal maid LOL

OMG, the shyloh-obsessed friend is going to be so spoiled with all the shyloh content I have planned, haha.

As for the fertility thing, it’s still open-ended, but if I make it canon, I can totally see Rosario just telling Merka to give him a vasectomy or something XDD

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