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I'm gonna outright say I think Jean is at least some kind of Demigod, if not outright a God himself. He looks Greek, and I think he *may* be Theseus, perhaps trying to atone for killing Asterion and setting off this whole chain of events and eternal torture?

In regards to the Peacock though, I saw his tailfeathers in the Bedrock yeah, and I think it was implied that they were used as quills to write contracts? In Greek mythology peacocks arose from the blood of (the Giant) Argos Panoptes, perhaps there's a link between this guy and the Foreman of the Labyrinth?

RuinedSilver4 years ago (3 edits) (+3)

While I don't know who Jean is, there is something that aligns with you theory of the killer being bound- In the sixth lore tablet, "Child"- Asterious meets one of the men sent to kill him, who responds that he's seeking a weapon said to be able to kill an immortal, to free his father of his eternal life (His father still aged, making it torture). what is important here, though, is this line- (https://gyazo.com/74bc7e724cc77ed27260b27fc37881e5).

Later in the passage, Asterion calls himself the "Guardian of Daedalus's home" and that the labyrinth itself is "holy ground- "That in the center of the maze lies a shrine made by the gods themselves. The visual description of the tablet also is describes as depicting a butchered bull at the opening of a temple.
a second tablet- 18- "Skyros" also mentions something along these lines-
(https://gyazo.com/ad2a0e760c122a6d6e40646fe3695fd4).

Fenris_724 years ago(+3)

I'm in the middle of reading all the tablets at the moment, and I can't help this horrible feeling that the Labrys that can cut the strings of Fate will be used to kill Asterion in finality.

You could be right though, I believe one of the crimes Asterion was damned for was the killing of Tithonus, nd undoing Zeus' decree. However, Argos describes the act of torturing and killing Asterion repeatedly to be one of "divine worship", perhaps Asterion's first death was seen as a divine act by the Gods at that point? I believe in the line you highlighted, the host is Deadalus as the Labyrinth is his home, his creation, and so it is Asterion's bloodline which is cursed.

RuinedSilver4 years ago(+3)

Its possible? however, the "Child" tablet makes me think its unlikely, as asterious tells the adventurer that "he'd welcome him as a guest with open arms, if it were not for the weapons in the adventures hands". The tablet ends by saying "Perhaps a seasoned warrior would have left the adventurer to die, but a child wouldn't know that a beggar can hide a knife".

This indicated to me that asterious eventually invited him as a guest (in tablet 7- Ichor, asterious is show to guide them to the weapon, though the circumstances are unclear) and the "guest" did something terrible, incurring the wrath of the gods. Its entirely possible that this something was not even asterious's or anothers death- the child tablet only states that to bring "Woe" into a hosts home is what causes repercussions. interestingly, "Ichor" also mentions that the man who tried to wield the axe still has burn marks on his hands,as only "those favored by the divine" could wield it.

Fenris_724 years ago(+4)

I think, after reading it all, you may be right. Jean may be Laomedon, son of Tithonus, the one who persuaded Asterion into killing his father against the will of Zeus. Both of their fates may be sealed by this act, as Laomedon in the last tablet states he no longer belongs to any country and is searching for a redeemer himself, if not to become a redeemer.

Perhaps he thinks by Asterion demonstrating his hospitality for all he sends his way (as he did for Laomedon and his father originally) will help redeem him in the eyes of the Gods? It certainly seems to fit well with the guilty vibe I was getting for some reason.

RuinedSilver4 years ago(+3)

I had to go back and replay the guest scene to catch it, but I do agree that Jean comes across as... off. I dunno if its guilt, but its clear that SOMETHING is weighing on him, and it would explain why he's sending people to the hotel, but not directly interfering. Its also possible that he was behind the MC and Clement meeting, due to how trippy and off kilter the scene of their meeting was.

It's Nicko!4 years ago(+2)

I think that Jean is just the Hotel WILL and/or MC WILL to meet a X or Y, Anon said that in the Hotel objects has some kind of life in them, so I don't doubt that persons could be created to make them go there, sometimes when you wish something it wont be fate that will lead to the hotel but something that guide them to it.

RockJock4 years ago(+3)

I'm seconding that the quills we see in the Bedrock were for writing contracts, and a simple assumption is that the Peacock's grandfather used to work on contracts with the hotel (probably left a passport, too, since writing wise it makes sense to cash one of those Chekhov's guns here quickly since we've got 3 more that could come up). Obviously there's some magic/supernatural bits at play with linking his dreams to the place these quills are, maybe they've been used for contacts for so long that they're starting to become an artifact, and are calling out to his grandson.

The tie there to Argos is very interesting, though! If we want a crazier theory, the magic of the quills and peacocks in general can be used for spying on locations they're left behind at - fitting with the eye on the feather, no? We don't know how Argos interacted with Clement or Jean really, did he ever care to interfere with what we're subverting the Bedrock into? Or would he maybe care to now that there is a very crafty new master (if you play that way, of course)? I don't know how Argos can interact with the guests, but could he have subverted the peacock grandfather to be a mole? Or maybe this hints that the upcoming peacock guest could be one? Impossible to know until we know who he his and if he'd let himself get swayed by Argos... And of course, the two may not have any tie at all, but where's the fun in that in the theory thread!

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