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you are aware that a form of socialism can coexist with capitalism, and that this is very common.
socialism is about the social ownership of the means of production.

this comes in various forms, one of which is nationalized institutions.
"We, The People" then own and operate it.

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Yes of course under Capitalism nothing stops you from starting a Socialist community. And there are examples of this, of course most fail and they do not scale well.

But under Socialism or any other Autoritarian system you are not free to create a business. Yet even under the most oppressive government's like North Korea there is black market Capitalism.

Peopel everywhere desire to be free. Nobody flees Capitalism to a Socialist country.

Think!

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actually, communes and communities scale amazingly well, if they can work mostly independant of eachother.
a cell like structure is actually extremely common in business and government alike.

in governments, they are usually hierarchical as well.

the cells operate mostly independantly, but answer to the layer above and command the layer below.

Second, me and my 5 friends starting An Island Onto Itself won't work, because what we need to survive and what we need to maintain standard of living will be with held from us.

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Yet there are no examples, they have all failed. Odd if it is such a good system that nobody has managed to make it work.

Nothing in your way other than hurdles that anybody else faces. You don't need an island. Yet there are people that put in the hard work and achive their dreams all the time. People that go off grid and live with very little outside interaction.

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There are dozens of communes out there that seem to work fine. I'm not particularly pro-commune but it is very disingenuous just shotgunning all of them with your expectations of failure when many communes have been running for 30+ years, and Cuba has been doing about as well as the capitalist countries of latin america even through all the sanctions that made that government unable to trade with almost any other.

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As I said people can choose to form a collective collony or group and make it work as long as it is  volentary. But of course then it would be Capitalism and not Socialism and it does not scale well.

As far as Socialist or Communist countries they always result in misery for the people and  collapse. I oppose sactions on whole countries as they harm the people and give the Dictators a scape goat.