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Hey notritter, I got your spawn plugin, seems like I can't spawn a full regionID Area using the script provide (I did success doing that with 'galv_spawn' thought), any solution for that?

I use common event, then connect it to a 'var' and added a 'jump to label' commend with limit number of 1000, but even do the area of the region I spawn it to was less then 1000 tiles, it didn't cover the all area.

Again when using galv spawn event this mothed did work when I use the following script:

Galv.SPAWN.event($gameVariables.value(35),15,true);

I will assume using something similar with your spawn plugin will work but It didn't work when I try to use:

Ritter.spawnEvent($gameVariables.value(35),15,true);

or Ritter.spawn.Event($gameVariables.value(35),15,true);

or Ritter.spawnEventRegion($gameVariables.value(26),14,true);

the map stop when entering like it can read it.

Do you know which script I should use instead? I need it to work with 2000-3000 event tile area, but for start I'm checking it on 1000.

In short: what should I do to get a full area of region cover with the 'spawn event' using your plugin? Here is a screen shot when using normal script without connecting it with the script to the 'var' (it spawn more event but not the full amount set.

(when player attack the ground with 'x' tool he will get item the ground change as you see in the second picture).

and 'gif' show what's happen on the map, the base tile are 'grass'(green), and the event image are the yellow ground you see that spawn, I couldn't upload the all thing but you can see the idea of what need to happened there.

The above show case are only when using your ffical script as you see in the event picture, as I said when I try to use the 'var' script Ritter.spawnEvent($gameVariables.value(35),15,true); and similar, the game stop when entering the map.

Note:

I'm building a game that will include 'digging ground' event (like in zelda 2d) using ABS and 'Spawn Event'.

notRitter4 years ago (2 edits)

I'm in the process of trouble shooting this issue, I'm able to fill an entire 2500 tile map in one second using my Ritter.spawnEvent script call but it takes considerably longer when using regions to spawn events. I'll update here when I solve what's going on with the delay when region spawning.

for (let w = 0; w < $dataMap.width; w++) { for (let h = 0; h < $dataMap.height; h++) { Ritter.spawnEvent(2, 1, w, h) } }

this script call worked smoothly to fill an entire map, but that just places an event on every single tile which isn't quite what you need.

I edited that script call a little to include region ids and it does exactly what it seems like you need.

for (let w = 0; w < $dataMap.width; w++) {

for (let h = 0; h < $dataMap.height; h++) {

if ($gameMap.regionId(w, h) == 1) {

Ritter.spawnEvent(2, Math.randomInt(27) + 1, w, h)

} } }

so what this does essentially is it loops through every single tile on the game map once and checks if its regionId is 1 ($gameMap.regionId(w,h) == 1)

then if the regionId is 1 it will execute the script call where 2 is the SpawnMap ID, Math.randomInt(27) + 1 will pick a random eventId on the spawn map from 1-27 and w,h is the x,y coordinates of the tile it found.

this will fill up an entire map almost instantly with events (tested on a 50x50 map). this spawner wasn't really created with the idea of filling an entire region with events but I can add in a script call to do so shortly if needed.

TheGameAfter4 years ago (3 edits)

Thanks for checking it out, I did notice the amount of time it takes to spawn big amount of events, solving that will help a lot.

And you right, cover the full map with events will not work for this case, since there are walls, and places I will put other events, small and big event size (house...), that why control the area with Region are the most affective way for my case but I still need it to cover the full region area.

So If you find a way to add the option to spawn full region area (%100 of the region ID) using a script call that will be very helpful, I checked many spawn events, and when is come to 'fps' with big amount of event (like I need) your spawn win them all as you probably know (galv as I emanation have the option to cover 'full' region area with spawn, but the fps drop when I spawn 600-700 event already so I can't use it).

notRitter4 years ago

I included a script call in my last post which does what you need, but it will be a lot of events spawned at once and will likely cause the same fps issues you had with other spawners as MV has problems handling that many events at once.

In a game I'm making (which is on hold while I work on my biggest tool/plugin project yet) I got around that issue by creating the boundary system which I used to spawn and unspawn events outside of the players screen so that I could reuse unspawned events over again and get a result of having practically unlimited amount of events (as far as the player knows at least) without the fps drops.

My spawner works best when events are unspawned and respawned instead of spawning 1000+ events on the map at once.

TheGameAfter4 years ago (3 edits)

I see, that probably be the best way to go with then, just got your 'boundary' plugin, I still need to learn how to do this right. and I think I didn't explain it right, I don't need it to spawn at once, just to spawn fast as passible like your original script for region already do, but instead of spawn to part of the region spawn it to the full area of the region.

And yes, I sew the script above but is for 'random' events from the map id, and I need to spawn 'specific' event id on the full region area, Is that passible? Also I don't need it to spawn in the same second, as long as it spawn fast enough to not fill like is take forever (7-10 seconds?). Do you know why the method with the 'var' doesn't work? It's work with 'galv spawn', and 'galv' is weaker then your spawn, so why something like

Ritter.spawnEvent($gameVariables.value(35),15,true);

doesn't work with your plugin? is should make it spawn not at the same time but still fill the all region (with 'jump to label' I show in the picture above.

Here is the same idea but with 'galv spawn' script the connect to a 'var', as you can see it's fill the all region area, not at the same time but that works for me as long as is fill the all region area without to much fps dropping:

'68' are the event number from the spawn map Id, '34' are the 'var' ID, and '11' are the region it will spawn on, using 'if: Random = 500 jump to label' make the script to repeat itself until the all area full, however when trying this way with your spawn is only add some amount of repeating but doesn't get the all region area full , but when trying to use the same idea with RitterSpawn is not working at all, is like the main 'Ritter.spawnEvent' script can't be connect to the 'variable' for some reason, could you check it out? I have other problems with 'galv' so if I can do similar thing with your spawn I prefer to use yours. There is no rush or anything so if you need time to check it that ok.

And again It's not have to be spawn at the same time (I sew how is drop the 'fps' like you said), is just need to fill it up fast as you can get it to be. Thanks again for your time, I appreciate it!

notRitter4 years ago

I'm currently creating a demo project which will show various ways to utilize the spawner and boundary system. I'll upload it to the store page once it's finished.

This is probably the best route to showcase the features and make it easier to understand on the users end.

I believe I have a good idea of what you're trying to accomplish here and there is a good way to handle this task with my spawner + boundary system that will be explained in the demo. You'll be able to see it in action and if it's what you need you'll be able to inspect the events which handle it within the demo and see how it's done :)

I appreciate your patience and will get this done as soon as I can! Thank you!

TheGameAfter4 years ago (1 edit)

That will be a big help, thank you! Also just to point it out, I think you sew it in the image I upload, I'm also using this spawn for an 'ABS' event (use tool the active the 'yellow ground' event and give the player an item) and also for non abs events, not sure if that make any different, but wanted to point this out.

One more thing, I sew you have two parameters in the 'spawn' plugin to define the start ID number for normal spawn events and another parameter for start ID for 'abs tool events', I didn't really understand what is for, are this is just tell the engnie the event I spawn on the map will be ID number 1000, and then next spawn event ID number1001, and so on? are this ID number change by each event or by each 'spawn'(so any amount events in the spawn script will include in one ID)? why/how this will make any change in the spawn? I sew some drop fps when I change the number to 1, but didn't understand why, maybe you added this parameter to use it with the Boundary plugin? if you can add some info about that in the plugin info with some examples for what I will want/need to change the Parameter ID numbers, that will help too.

I'm looking forward for the demo :)

notRitter4 years ago

About the two parameters:

For Spawn Starting Event Id, this parameter allows for the spawner to start spawning events at a specific ID such that the spawner has its own space to work without interfering with other events, just a clean workspace for the spawner so that you know any events spawned after this number is a spawned event. I defaulted this to 1000. Basically when you spawn your first event its id will be 1000, then the next event will be 1001, then 1002 etc. etc. Now when you unspawn one of these events that eventId will be reused on your next spawn unless that event was saved, if the event was saved then that unspawned event remains in the queue waiting to be respawned, thus an extra event remains on the map. To restore an unspawned event which was saved you need to use Ritter.restoreUnspawnedEvent(eventId). Restoring unspawned saved events can be rather tricky to figure out at first though, its something I intended to expand on to make easier but haven't gotten around to it yet. If you're using thousands of saved events it would likely take quite a bit of reworking the spawner code to handle that really well and would likely need to reuse events which wouldn't preserve their original event ids.

As for the Chrono Engine Tool Event Offset parameter this was implemented because in my testing i found that tool events (when you attack) could sometimes steal some event properties from the final event on your event list. In some cases this interfered with gameplay in a game i'm developing so i created an offset to allow for a null/undefined event to be the final event in the list at all times, this made it so that tool events were allowed to operate unobstructed without grabbing properties from an event which is unintended. I defaulted this to 2000 because you should never have that many events on the map anyway thus event 2000 will be undefined and have no properties to steal. I'm not 100% sure why this happens with those tool events but this was the easiest way to correct the issue. :]

So in short just set the first spawn id parameter to a large number, and the chrono engine offset number to a much larger number.

Also the demo is coming along well and should be ready soon-ish. Trying to make sure I include enough in the demo to be a useful tool to pull ideas from :]

TheGameAfter4 years ago (4 edits)

Thanks for the explanation, sounds like simple but affective way to solve the Chrono engine issue, and yes I'm still worry a bit about the loading save un-spwan' events, my game have day and night system and basically every 'morning' player will be able to 'attack' the ground (and found items) again, that when I plan to restore the 'un-spwan' events. a good example how to the 'restor' events effectively will definitely going to help, And no rush with the demo (I can't wait though :))

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