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Alsooo, it actually cleared something up for me, sooo 26's memories was put shortly into 339 right? They didn't have to go through 27 then 28 them 29 and so on, sooo 339 was already the next in line to wake up. Sooo is she also the latest unit? Or how many more were produced after her and Kuro?

Alsooo since they are also humans...do they need to eat too?

Anddd now I'm curious about this too, how does Kuro of the 5 routes sleep, he seems to get tired as he stiffles a yawn. While he and the MC are actually in a simulation, can they actually get tired?

Azure Rose4 years ago

I replayed the game again, I couldn't help it. Well, I got through to the Princess route and I just confirmed that Kuro hovers! Now I am curious as to how far he can go. Can he basically float really really high and far away and just choose not to cuz he don't want to be far from the MC or does he have limitations like 1km away from her.

Replaying the game, it showed just how competent Kuro was as a spirit guide. I could have gotten straight to the good ending of a route 95% of the time just by following his suggestions and choosing what would be a more comfortable choice for him (he'll murder me if he's not happy anyway lol) and he makes so much sense at most times (if he is not being too yandere). Most remarkable times was when he advised the MC to execute the traitors and in the detective route where he theorized the trap the villaim had for the MC and when he said that the MC's genuine kindness and selflessness wasn't a weakness. I guess that's another thing I liked about Kuro. He is always so supportive and sees the best in the MC, he really just wants to see her fluorish. And he knows when to correct her when the situation calls for it, and he owns up when he has mistakes. Those moments made me really admire Kuro as a character and showed tgat he really loved her.

It pained me to choose the wrong choices cuz I knew I was gonna hurt Kuro in some way (the one where MC kissed Farro became more painful to me cuz after I knew that Kuro was in pain everytime Farro touched her, I understood why Kuro just let her suffer, cuz Kuro himself must have suffered terribly out of jealousy and extreme pain when they kissed). But they were essential to know more about the plot and to further the point that they were in a simulation sooooo that gave me a reason to actually choose them. I find it neat though that you get to go back to fix toir mistakes and even if Kuro knows you made a mistake, he still loves the MC.

Melancholy Marionette4 years ago

I'm so sorry for how late my reply is again! >.< I was working like crazy on my entry for Scream Jam 2020, Impostor, haha. It was a 10 day game jam but I only had 7 days to work on it. Been getting around 4 hours sleep a night and working for as many hours of the day/night as possible to get it done xD Thankfully, I managed to finish it in time :3

That's so great that your teachers loved your presentation! I'm glad it went well for you :3

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You pretty much got it right with what you said about the principal in the student route :D It's supposed to be Isaac playing that part, cos he's such an evil bugger that he sometimes enjoys playing the villain role in the simulations himself when he has the time! It's kinda like a hobby for him to torment people I think >.< And yeah, Kuro was refencing the fact that he knows the truth about what's going on, and he's a part of it and can't help MC so he feels kinda guilty/responsible about it.

I probably wound up giving mage Kuro the green hair subconsciously cos I was thinking of Ukyo or something xD

Yeah, 26's memories and experiences were put into 339 :3 27, 28, 29 etc. would have existed at some point but by the time we see the story they have either been discontinued as units, or they are still running simulations but aren't as successful as 26. You're right that 339 was the next unit to be woken up, so she would have been the latest one. They would have had hundreds more units of MC and Kuro in storage though, with the ability to produce more down there in the lab.

I never really thought about if they would need to eat or not actually! It would make more sense for the clones to have been made without the need for food so that they're more durable and don't have to stop testing for food breaks. Isaac managed to make artificial lungs and stuff for S****, so I guess it's possible he could have made something weird to replace the need for food, haha.

I would say that they can get tired when they're in simulations, yeah :3 Cos the simulations are supposed to feel real, so they would experience fatigue in the same sorta way people normally would I guess. Probably more mental tiredness than physical, but they can feel physical exertion within the simulations too.

You probably know more about the little details of Kuro like the hovering and stuff than I do now! Haha :3 I wrote it all so long ago that I forget a lot of the small details x3 Back when I was testing I was sometimes surprised by certain scenes cos I forgot what I wrote xD Usually when I'm testing I kinda turn into a zombie cos it gets really boring reading the stuff so many times over while looking for bugs and typos that I end up switching off >.< It also gets really hard to tell if the writing is okay cos it gets to the point where I'm just so fed up with seeing it that it all looks like crap T_T haha.

In the simulations, Kuro could probably couldn't float that high cos there would be some form of limitations in place to keep his activity somewhat restricted to however Isaac wants :(

Yeah, Kuro just wants to see MC succeed really so he usually tries his best to help lead her on the right path :3 He never really wants to hurt her, he just kinda breaks sometimes >.< haha. You're exactly right when you say he just wants to support her and see her flourish :3
Isaac kinda wants MC to make mistakes so that both her and the Kuro's suffer more, but ultimately he also wants her to learn from those mistakes too in order to further her sorta power level.

Again, I'm so sorry it took me so long to get back to you! I can't believe it's been almost 2 weeks already! o.O I honestly don't know where the time goes sometimes >.< Just been waaaaay too absorbed in working on game project stuff. I hope you're doing okay, have been having a great week, and that you have a super duper weekend! ^-^

Azure Rose4 years ago

Hello!~ thank you so much for this reply! ^_^ It's really fine with me that the reply took longer. Time flies by me too so I didn't really notice it that much haha, especially with how much schoolwork that was dumped on us right now hahaha, it really feels that a day goes by so fast!

Buuutttt I was curious about somethings again hehe. In the routes how do they live together? Does Kuro help with chores? Does Kuro have hobbies in the routes whenever he disappears or does he just watch whatever the MC is doing constantly?

Alsoooo I pondered this a bit and I feel so bad for the Kuros. I mean they would probably be really sad when the route is over. Is that why Kuro sounded a bit distant in the good ends? Now I also feel bad about the Kuro who was always mad at 339, he must have been a fresh Kuro so after marrying the MC and being pulled out of the simulation he must have been pretty confused and angry. It is really impressive how the Kuros can live inside the simulation so happily with the MC as if nothing is wrong even if they know the horrors of lab life (except when their crazy side comes up).

I have another question about the routes too, when do they really start? Like does the simulation start as seen in the visual novel and that the memories shown in the flashnacks are just implanted, or does the simulation really start when they are kids?

Alsoooo, I found something interesting in the gamer route. Around the scene where Kuro and the MC kissed and Kuro said that all he wanted was to touch her in reality, I find it odd how he said that he will do anything to protect this "dream". He didn't say reality. Sooooo, was he referring to the simulation? Him not wanting to leave the simulation and be with the MC forever?

Kuro from the 5 routes is really different from the one in reality. The one in the 5 routes is the closest to his real self right? Cuz he gets to be himself in the route (though a tweaked version).

Alsoooo it was a nice touch how the sunrise was used. In the bad end where the MC and Kuro venture off into the desserted wasteland and in the true end where Shiro and og!MC are in the balcony/roof. It really felt like a new beginning for them.

Alsoooo how does Kuro do it? Sending her to sleep I mean. In the princess route he makes her drink tea. In the the detective route, I forgot but is it another kiss of sleep? Like in the mage route? Does the same happen in the student route? How can Kuro send her to sleep with a kiss? In the middle of the detective route Kuro is able to do this with just a kiss on her forehead. I'm guessing that in the gamer route they are just pulled out of the simulation without anyone sleeping?

Azure Rose4 years ago

Oh my these are actually a lot of questions. Just take your time with these I don't really mind hehe. ^_^

Azure Rose4 years ago

I also forgot to say this as well but I do hope you get to rest well, cuz wow 4 hours of sleep time everyday, I really do hope you get to rest well.

Melancholy Marionette4 years ago

I hope you're coping alright with all that work being dumped on you then x3 haha.

I guess in the simulations they don't really have much in the way of a normal everyday routine so they wouldn't need to do a whole lot in the way of chores and stuff. They might do stuff like that a couple of times for some sorta normality in the sims, but they wouldn't really get that much of a chance to live together in peace before they're sorta pushed into dangerous situations. Even if they did get to live a normal sorta life for an extended period of time, I think like you said, Kuro would just wanna spend all his time as close to MC as possible anyways x3

Yeah, most of the Kuro's don't really want the sims to end since they actually get to spend some time with MC doing nice things together. Whereas in the lab, the Kuro's are either locked up alone, or being made to hurt MC >.< You're right about the super angry Kuro, he had very little awareness as to what was actually going on because he was a newer unit when all the shit went down, haha, so as far as he was concerned, the sims were his reality and MC betrayed him. I guess when the Kuro's become more aware of the reality of lab life, they kinda cling on to the sims cos it's the only time they get to be with MC and have any sort of happiness :(

The simulation starts pretty much where you see it in the VN. Like you say, the flashback memories are just implanted at the beginning in order to settle MC into the scenario and make it more believable for her :3

With the gamer Kuro stuff, he was kinda referring to both the sim and reality. In many ways he doesn't wanna leave the sim so he can stay with MC forever, but at the same time, he wants to be able to be with her in reality too. He's not really allowed to say much about reality to MC though, and even if he did, they'd just wipe it from her mind anyhow. So he speaks to her as though the sim is their reality. But yeah, he kinda means both if that makes any sense at all x3 I probably did a terrible job of explaining that, haha.

I guess all the Kuro's are kinda unique in their own way, whether it's cos they've been tweaked on purpose or cos they've grown through experience. They're a fair bit different to the original S****, but that's not really their fault x3 You're right that he does get to be himself in the sims, he has some small degree of freedom while in those, but outside of the sims, they don't really have any freedom at all so most of the Kuro's tend to act quite differently to how they do in the sims because they kinda just retreat into themselves and give up on any kind of happiness, just waiting for the next sim to start.

Yeah, I really love some of the background art packs I bought that have time of day changes :3 They look cool when you tell Tyrano to crossfade from one to another, haha.

I guess in a way, Kuro doesn't technically send MC to sleep himself. It's more like the sim is over and he's allowed to have some sorta sweet time to say goodbye to her before she's pulled out (sometimes anyhow, if Isaac is being a bastard then he might not allow it!) There's not really anything in Kuro's kisses, or the tea that he gives MC that sends her to sleep, it's more kinda like a trigger I guess. Or like when you hear about how spies can be activated by hearing trigger words and stuff x3 Sleeping within the sims isn't really sleeping though, it's kinda forced and doesn't last for the amount of time that real sleep would. It's more like a little blip or a pause and MC just thinks/feels as though she's been to sleep if it's during a sim like when days pass.

No worries on the questions anyhow :D I managed to sleep a little longer last night but still feel restless/in the routine of not sleeping much xD Going to see some of my family later that I haven't seen in months :3 Will probably have a fairly relaxing weekend... eat junk food, watch some movies, chill with family, and go on a nice walk somewhere :3 I hope you get to have a nice weekend yourself and that you don't get too exhausted with your schoolwork!

Azure Rose4 years ago

Ooohhh that sounds like a really nice weekend hehe ^_^

...alsoooo I actually have more questions..again... cuz somehow I still can't seem to move on from the game even if it's already nearing a month now.

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In the game, who actually writes the scenarios? Like whoever it is they deserve a raise haha

Alsoooo, I never noticed this before until now bit after replaying the op for so many times but...are the characters at the start 339 and dollmaker!Kuro? And the last two are og! MC and Shiro? While playing I avoided the op since I really didn't want to spoil myself with anything. I already did when the guide said that I had to input S****'s name. At that time I had already written the letters and was at the brink of figuring outbwhat they were for. Oh well haha, it made sense anyway. But listening to the op's lyrics...woooowww the lyrics really reflected the character's feelings and situation. T'was a REALLY good OP, maximum repeats it gained hehe. Like the melody is also very catchy, especially at the start. I also can't help but sing it in my head at times.

Azure Rose4 years ago

Alsooo I was browsing through Incompetech again, and I accidentally stumbled upon the song that plays at the end of the princess route, the Nu Flute. That was really so lovely, and I suddenly remembered that beautifully heartbreaking scene at the end of the princess route. I guess that scene was really so beautiful to me that even now I almost cried hearing it. It makes me nostalgic in a bitterweet way.

Now that I think about it, something I liked a lot about that scene was Kuro calling the MC "my beloved". I personally like that petname being used towards one's lover and I too wish to call my future spouse " my beloved" too. Sooo I was really surprised and elated when Kuro called the MC that, it' s rare for me to see that being used in a VN. In harvest moon, there is a character limit so I can't exactly call my in-game hubby that. Ahh bummer. Really though, when Kuro is sweet, he can be REALLLYYYY sweet.

Melancholy Marionette4 years ago

Wow, has it been almost a month already :o Time just keeps on disappearing super fast lately o.O haha.

I guess the creation of scenarios would be a sorta team effort from a particular group within the lab. I never really thought about it, but I just kinda imagine that they would have a dedicated team for it, and then Isaac would sign off on the ones he liked x3

You are absolutely right about the OP :D I'm so glad you noticed that sorta hidden nod to the characters :3 The characters at the start are indeed 339 and DM Kuro, the the last two are OG MC + S****. When I wrote the lyrics for the OP, I wanted it to be like the characters were singing to each other :3 My best friend helped me with making the song cos I have zero music knowledge >.< so I just showed him my lyrics and he started to come up with a melody while I was basically backseat driving, telling him what I liked and stuff, haha. He'll be super happy to know that you like it :D

I guess maybe 'my beloved' isn't used that much cos it might be considered old fashioned or something, but I think it's sweet :3 My best friend and I have the pet name 'sausage' for each other xD

Hope you have a great rest of the week! :3

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