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Hello!

I haven't yet completed the demo (I have been grinding a bit for JP, those animations are quite nice.) but i do have some small feedback. Expect more after i am done grinding. ;)

Alright:

So far the music is pretty dang good, as are visuals. I don't really have complaints there.

Storywise i really can't say yet how good it is given how short I am into it yet, but it seems like a solid idea so far. So far it seems like a pretty standard RPG experience. But I am sure with how much work was put into this for the visuals and the like, that i can expect some twists and turns at some point. Even if not, standard RPG isn't bad if it is done well.

Gameplay wise:

I am not sure if that will be possible later, it isn't yet, but if it isn't i would vote for being able to change the main class of the character. So i can make Warren a cleric/mage. Instead of a knight/mage or knight/cleric (currently grinding the fighter to get the JP up ability since i tested and the 20% exp bonus from cleric works if the class isn't equipped.) but that is merely a personal preference and would make balancing probably harder. Furthermore I noticed when i switched from cleric to mage that the mage doesn't even know a single spell. So i would also hope that we can know a single spell upon switching to it. Maybe some weak throwaway spell that is only usefull for for an option that you don't need to attack normally.

I didn't yet get to the point to try spells, i will do that later this day when i continue my cave grind, but from what i looked at they seem rather expensive, at least for early. I mean 6 MP for the weakest wizard spell when you have like 43 MP as a level 2 wizard and a level 7 knight with the tunic it is really, really expensive. The same seems for most spells. I would honestly think that decreasing the MP cost, at least for the weaker spells and maybe some stronger ones depending on the MP pool later, is a good idea. But as i said i didn't yet get to try multiple spells. MP/HP seem pretty low alltogether if i am to be honest, maybe thats what you are going for, but yeah compared to foes the HP is pretty low. But that might only seem so.  Also the cost for abilities and passives just... is pretty weirdly distributed. I would think passives should be more expensive and most active skills a bit below that. Given most passives so far aren't all that strong but still. It just seems weird to me.

Well I do wish you good luck, i am gonna continue my grind later if i have time today.

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Magic needs a huge buff.

Its definetly not worth the price... I use an 8MP spell (burning hands) and it does 50-75 damage while my normal hits do twice that. And I am already using the spear to get some more "Intelligence." while i can potential do over a 100 to 4 foes with quadro slash. Ray of frost is a bit better but still only does 66% of a normal attack. (100 damage around that, nevermind its 75-100) which is totally stupid given that the Rage skills are so much stronger.... wizards need a boost. Though to be fair he is probably intended to be played as a paladin but i guess i just want my main char to be primarily a mage.)

I am gonna update this with other damage numbers once I get more spells. I already got a few other class skills and am closing in on the 150 battles mark. ;)

It all looks good, but the spellpower is really, really lacking. At least i now got the CP boosting skill. (25% cp is really usefull.)

Edit: shocking grasp does as much as a normal attack and with a high roll maybe 10-20 more.... still pretty bad for a ressource based move.

Edit2: Would be nice to see how much EXP you need for the next class level that isn't the main class.

Edit3: Stealing is cool... cant wait to see what more classes there are after rogue lol

Edit4: After trying out stealing i found out, the longer you are in battle, potentially as well as long as you do smth usefull like healing or stealing (i have quite the collection of battle axes now from the cave barbarians) it can go quite high. Currently my highest outcome is 214 CP for Warren by stealing and 99 for maximus for healing with channel energy.

Edit5: Starting level 11 knight and level 7/8 wizard magic is starting to become somewhat usefull as a single target thing. With the +10% int buff at least. The aeos are still woefully underpowered.

Edit6: I think more abilities that are passive that increase stats could help with making all subclasses for everyone usefull... if you invest the time you can use it as every character. Some might still be more inclined to one class or another, but yeah. Just a thought for now. I am gonna earn some more AP to earn that acid spell or however it was called and then do a damage number comparison with physical vs magical. Not now though as i have stuff to do later.

Edit7: Well the assasin was a disappointment. Yes i am overlevelled as all hells but he was basically a normal boss. He used nothing out of ordinary. He did some bleeding but despite carrying poison he never used anything with poison. He doesnt have an assasins burst either. Oh well... also i did a 1024 crit with bulls rush on that assasin. lol

Edit8: Is there some sort of special effect running in the background that increases MP/HP? Because i sometimes get boosts to those without a class up as i assumed before.

Edit9: That ogre lord was more like it! Too bad he was only a damage sponge as well without a remeding factor... he didnt even get reinforcement... alright. lol

Edit10: Why can't waren as a level 9 wizard say anything about the scroll? Sad me. No easteregg for the grinders.

Edit11:  Alright i didnt expect the end i thought i still had a bit but oh well. I have to say visually this is a treat. Music is pretty good as well and its to soon to say anything to the story. But yeah it is pretty decent. But to the important point... whats the sixth class? I only had Knight, Rogue, Fighter, Wizard, Cleric and the standard classes each came with. so 3 different knights, the class maximus had whose name i forgot, and the ones i named. I demand more classes to grind skills for! XD Anyways. I am 8hours 30minutes in and 90% of that is grinding.... xD

Edit12: Enemy bleed and poison need a buff. I mean 4-9 damage per dot is.... nothing.

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Knight lv 11/wizard lv 8/9, wooden spear equipped, +10% int
Opponnent: Spiders
Acid Bolt: 133 Damage, 120 damage
Ray of Frost: 144 damage, 169 damage
Burning Hands: 169, 177 (weak)
Opponnent: Berserkers
Shocking Grasp: 285 damage, 268 damage
Ray of Frost: 174 damage, 169 damage
Burning Hands: 114 damage, 110 damage
Opponnent: Green Musks
Shocking Grasp: 253 damage, 267 damage
Acid Bolt: 145 damage
Burning Hands: 125 damage
Opponnent: Spider
Shocking Grasp: 277 damage
Acid Bolt: 131 damage
Opponnent: Berserkers
Ray of Frost: 169 damage, 160 damage
Shocking Grasp: 280 damage, 267 damage
Burnings Hands: 110 damage, 100 damage
Opponnent: Spiders
Shocking Grasp: 284 damage, 257 damage
Ray of Frost: 154 damage, 161 damage
Counter from Max went and killed before i could proc another burning hands. (did a few more but they all were around that damage bracket.)

Knight lv 11/12, Wizard lv 9 Masterwork Iron Claymore (could use fighter for more power but just to show that even not maxed it is much better, especially since you dont sacrifice as much defense.)
Opponnent: Berserkers
Quadro Slash: 142, 149, 151, 152 damage dead berserker
Normal attack: 156 damage
Break Slash: 305 damage Berserker lived with around 1 HP
Normal Slash 214 damage (def down inflicted which will be done with a 33% chance.... nevermind the chance for a crit.)
Opponnents: Green Musks
Damage: 224 (weak) vulnerable inflicted
Quadro Slash: 232, 212, 242, 222 damage inflicted both dead (weak)
Opponnent: Spider
Cyro Slash: Total Damage: 648 encounter over
Opponnent: Berserkers
Normal Attack: Critical 360, vulnerable inflicted
Aero Slash: 174 damage, berserker down, 194 damage second berserker weakened
Normal Attack: 164 damage, vulnerable inflicted
Normal Atack: 170 encounter over
Opponnent: Spider
Normal Attack: 184, vulnerable inflicted
Tyra Slash: Critical 580 damage, encounter over
I don't think i need to go on

There is three runs i documented and i did observe more.... please also keep in mind that if the others join in (this was warren solo) the damage can get far more ridicolous. Especially with Bull Rush and other fighter abilities.

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Wow man! You played the crap out of this demo and I appreciate all your hard work. I'm going to look through the data you provided and work on making magic more useful for all characters. I'm glad you seemed to have fun during your playthrough. I'll look into 'boring' assassin also. Holy grind fest, lol!

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Well....  i like the class system you introduced itself so obviously i had grind a bit more than usual.

The assasin was boring as in:

I have all that poison and reinforcement (at some point he got 4 people, i assume the 1024 crit was not something you planned for but they were easily dealt with, with a move called cyclone i think? And the aero slash. I participated as a rogue because i wanted to see what he had to steal and i didnt train maximus as a rogue. Nevermind that a healer is always a common thing to have in any game.) but i can't use it efficiently. I mean those reinforcements came in trough smoke and couldn't even get a sneak attack off. I mean I can see why, balancing wise for a lower levelled party that would be a nightmare. But i guess I am the exception. lol Than there is the thing that poison and bleed are basically a non issue (So he could inflict maybe both with a move? Maybe buff himself up with the poison he has and inflict a dot like poison for quite some time). I mean 4-9 damage a dot is.... really nothing. So maybe give the assasin a "deadly poison" move for an example that gives a dot that does tripple of the poison. Group move maybe as an ultimate. Naturally still healable. (Maybe give the cleric a group poison heal move? I didnt get one nor do i see one, but this would make a cleric much more vital and usefull for the fight. Unless you spend a turn with each char healing poison. lol) Also the potions the assasin moved that healed 460-510 damage didnt give him immunity to bleed afterwards only healed it. 

The Ogre Lord was better as in he had a cleave effect move and that he just did the burst i expected from an assasin. (Nothing threatening to me ofc lol But very dangerous for a lower tiered party.) Maybe have the ogre Lord have some small amount of regeneration you have to cancel out with bleed and poison? He did use a remedy for lowered stats (poor guy was slowed and weakened to oblivion. ;) ) but he didnt seem to have anything against a dot. So it would introduce a more strategic element if you have to cancel his regeneration out with bleeding to beat him, but thats probably just me. Maybe not with poison given that rogue won't be easy to get for the people that don't grind. lol

Also those statues how many could I find? I only found 2 or 3 i think. And i clicked on everything. lol Yeah 2 just checked. Since I need 5 for a reward.... why even include them in the demo? ;)

Have a good day. :D

I appreciate you taking that huge amount of time to play through the demo. There are 6 ebony idols in the current version. I ended up taking poison away from the assassin and will work on giving him some new skills(s).

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Found one more idol... but when i tried to go to the port where maximus ship was.... the screen turns black and doesnt turn back! Sneaky bug found.

You are very sneaky... hope none are permanently unable to be found.

Edit: Did some testing, only happens when you go there from the middle

Edit2: Random Crash when i walk over the trees right of the city. Doesnt allow me to open the window, music still plays, but nothing else works.

Edit3: Couldn't repeat it so i dunno what it was. Maybe i touched something invisible i did before i didnt now. If it is, it must be on maximus dock.

Edit4: Another Idol! Hah I am getting close to five... if i just hadn't gone trough everything i could think of. lol

Edit5: Those stairs in the mountains are evil... you cant cross the water to get there.... grrr XD

Ice Storm does: 280-320 HP damage each foe.... on the spider. Its really, really not worth 24 MP lol Just saying now, if you want to make spells be costly they should have an according impact, a game changer so to say. And against bosses it would be useless as it is now. lol

Edit6: Found a weird burg. With Maximus as a level 10 cleric and level 10 fighter and level 12 mainclass and even before getting wizard he uses channel energy sometimes instead of normal defend if pressed. Doesnt seem to do anything else... seems to be tied to checking skills though as it only then and now triggers after doing that. Its weird i had it happen 5 times now but i cant figure out the trigger.

-He just did randomly too in a fight... alright this be weird. I am gonna get the equivalent the wizard has for testing purposes and see if it breaks anything. Edit: it doesn't trigger at all then. alright lol

Edit7: If one Berserker transforms both do. And then they start tearing at me instantly... rude. lol

Edit8: I assume there is a hidden class combined for the rogue/fighter and a combination of the casters... hmm well i will give it till level 12. Also depending battles fought your MP/HP increases right?

Edit9: Haha! Fifth ebony idol... totally by chance though. Oh well reward I am coming. lol

Edit10: I wonder where a swimsuit could be... is it in the demo? lol I mean the dresser has nothing, no one sells one etc

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I'll def look into those weird bugs you found. (I actually think I fixed the docks one already) You have all the classes available in the demo. There is no swim suit at this time, lol.

I cannot seem to reproduce 'Edit6' behavior. Very weird....

Alright.

I can't replicate the defense bug reliably either, but do you need my save? 

It just happens randomly every few mins I suppose, with the highest turnout being at the beginning of a fight if i choose defense with maximus. (4 out of 6 times) I accidentially oversaved the one when he was still a level 1 wizard but it did happen with him as a level 6 wizard too.

Not sure if you want me to post my save here though. It has fixed itself after getting the wizard equivalent though. Just tell me how to get my save to you if you need it and i will give it to you.

Can email it to jasonhymas05@gmail.com

Thanks!