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themoonisacheese3 years ago (4 edits) (+2)

French:

CARD VALUE LIGATURES

ACE - AS
TWO - DEUX
THREE - TROIS
FOUR - QUATRE
FIVE - CINQ
SIX - SIX
SEVEN - SEPT
EIGHT - HUIT
NINE - NEUF
TEN - DIX
JACK - VALET
QUEEN - DAME / REINE
KING - ROI

Let me know which letters represent ace, jack, queen, and king (e.g. A for ACE, Q for QUEEN).

A, V, D, R respectively

CARD SUIT LIGATURES

HEARTS - COEURS
DIAMONDS - CARREAUX
CLUBS - TREFLES / TRÈFLES
SPADES - PIQUES

JOKER LIGATURES

JOKER - JOKER / FOU
RED - ROUGE
BLACK - NOIR

Let me know how to write 'RED_JOKER' and 'BLACK_JOKER' if they aren't just written in the same form as in English. Also, let me know if there's an accepted way to write the colour in 3 letters (like BLK for black)—these letters will be used in the red and black joker icons, not the codes.

JOKER_ROUGE and JOKER_NOIR

no convention for 3 letter abbreviation, JOKER_R and JOKER_N works fine

YES/NO/AND/BUT DICE LIGATURES

YES - OUI
NO - NON
AND - ET
BUT - SAUF

same as english for combinations

SYMBOL DICE LIGATURES

CHECK/TICK (checkmark) - COCHE
CROSS (an X shape) - CROIX
CIRCLE/NOUGHT/RING - CERCLE / ZERO / ZÉRO
PLUS (+) - PLUS
MINUS (-) - MOINS
BLANK - BLANC
SLASH (/) - SLASH
EXCLAMATION (!) - EXCLAMATION / EXCL
QUESTION (?) - INTERROGATION / INTERR

COIN LIGATURES

HEADS - FACE
TAILS - PILE
ANY_FLIP - PIECE_TOUTES / PIECE_NIMP

PIECE_TOUTES stands for "coin_all" while PIECE_NIMP stands for "coin_any", however NIMP abbreviates "n'importe" in a slightly slang manner.

WILDCARD LIGATURES

Either tell me how to write 'ANY' in the sense of 'any number', or else say how you would write a wildcard like this in your language.

N'IMPORTE / NIMP

"N'importe quel nombre"

Metylene3 years ago(+2)

“BUT - MAIS” Je pense qu’ici le sens est “SAUF” : Toutes les cartes sauf le roi de coeur. All the cards but the king of hearts.

Sinon le reste me semble bien :)

themoonisacheese3 years ago

Correct. c'est modifie.

Speak the Sky3 years ago (2 edits) (+1)

Great! For the most part, this looks completely fine and looks like it might be the first translation I can do once I have the license upgrade, since I won't need to draw any new glyphs.

A few questions/points:

Would 'NON_PLUS' work for ANY_FLIP? As in, the coin could be either face. I checked this with a machine translation, so I don't know if it's the right word—it also told me 'soit' means 'either' as well.
I'm probably going to get rid of 'EXCLAMATION' and 'QUESTION' in the next because one or both of them has caused problems in every language so far (English, French, Spanish, Galician, Croatian), and dice with question and exclamation marks are very rare.
Are there normally any accents on any of the words you've listed? I can include codes with and without accents, if it helps.

themoonisacheese3 years ago(+1)

"non plus" doesn't work. its meaning as "either" is only valid in the sense of "i don't like pasta either", not in the sense of "either is fine".

"soit" has kind of the same problem in that it only means either in the sense of "either we go to the park or the restaurant"

in terms of accents:

CLUBS - TRÈFLES

CIRCLE/NOUGHT/RING - ZÉRO

and that's it, although i should note that there is no way to type these (except alt codes) on a french keyboard as they're capital letters. it might help with search though, so here they are. i've updated my main post to reflect that.

dan qui dam3 years ago(+1)

Thanks for the translation.

When possible we write COEURS (Hearts) like this: CŒURS, it's a French typographic rule. But I know a lot of fonts which are not multilingual don't have the "Œ" ligature glyph.

Speak the Sky3 years ago(+1)

The way I'm building it I've got 2 codes—CŒURS and COEURS—for the same icon, so if people can't input Œ on their device (for whatever reason) then they still have the other one. I'm doing something similar with TRÈFLES/TREFLES (though I know there's a different issue there with accents on capitals).