No.. what is strange is that is all you decided to take from my comment. I have no issue paying to support a dev when the game is A: A well written story. B: Is at least 50 percent finished. (Other's made the same points I was thinking, albeit a lot more eloquently than I could have.) C: Just because I am permanently disabled on a fixed income shouldn't automatically mean I shouldn't have access to the same things others do, yes I am aware the VN's aren't "important" but as someone with a hell of a lot of free time on their hands, I enjoy reading them all the same. My fixed income should not be a barrier to have access to something as simple as an indy VN.
And I wouldn't have even Downloaded the game in the first place if it stated that there was a pay wall to finish the story.. i just dropped it on me. That's where my issue is. Hence why I stated either make it pay to play entirely or not at all. I don't feel "entitled" to play vn's however I think a little transparency before I waste my time and get invested in a story only to be told I have to pay money to finish is a shady move.
Ah, I see what you mean.
Maybe this was a later addition but it is clearly stated now, at least, that chapters 5 and 6 are on Patreon (near the top of the page).
With that said, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by C. Why shouldn't not being able to afford something mean you can't access it? As someone who is also on fixed income due to a chronic disability, I sympathise with your plight, but unfortunately life isn't fair.
now your argument went screwy.
" Just because I am permanently disabled on a fixed income shouldn't automatically mean I shouldn't have access to the same things others do"
this aint the USSR. if you want full-socialism, try north korea.
and you DO HAVE ACCESS. you just choose to spend your money elsewhere.
also, your disability is not my disability. life aint fair. deal with it.
Demo versions are free. Playtesting is a paid for service.
Finished products are saleable products, and investors have rights to the content.
Subscribing to incomplete products is a fucking joke, that's not how game-dev works. these types are scammers, there is no logical debating point about it. the industry sets the standards, not individual devs. if you fell for the bad business practises of a scammer, that doesnt make scamming right, regardless of whether you have suffered the consequences yet or not.
The fact is many people paid for the product up front and in good faith here on Itch.io, expecting to eventually own the full product, in accordance with the "early access" model.
now if you want to own the game, you have to pay again, and worse - fund left-wing terrorism and social lynch mobs by funding the political vigilante fundraising site, patreon. fuck that shit
What the fuck are you talking about?
1. We weren't talking about the subscription model. The person I was responding to played the demo, which is indeed free, and were upset that the rest of the game is locked behind a paywall.
2. If anyone is allowing people to pay up front on Itch.io for an incomplete product and expecting them to pay again every time the game is updated, I agree that is predatory and unethical. That doesn't seem to be what's happening with City of Broken Dreamers, though. You can't pay for the game on Itch.io, you can just download the FREE demo. Coincidentally, the game is up on Steam, and last time I checked, updates are free.
3. If you are suggesting that the subscription model itself is unethical, though, then we have a real disagreement.
It's not a scam if they're literally telling you what you're going to get. I'd be very surprised if anyone using Patreon or a similar website thought they'd get all the benefits with a one-time purchase, whether or not we're talking about a game in early access.
