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[Workers: 722, Servants: 616, Mages 774] ----By D17! [B4 Noon]

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(maybe ambergrain can comment?) IDK what the EXACT Req are, but Servant support is *NOT*, repeat, *NOT* FREE. [should I post a pic to prove this?] I INSIST. In above pic, (ck #'s ) got 616 Servant support. Even if you side w them (100 pts) *STILL* not free.

Eiyal
2 things-- *VASTLY* different from your suggestions [glad I started this thread, learned a *LOT ! (52 days ago) ] that I've been doing a LOT, & that used in above run to get that [Could *EASILY* finish Loan Q b4 D21!] :

1) UPGRADES. Like someone else suggested: [beyond the obvious Rms 1] .. the first levels of forge, tailor, and alchemy done, (Note: "Forge Tools" upgrade is ridiculously expensive, *MUCH* better IMHO to get Tailer (lvl 2?) & then *CRAFTSMAN SUIT* [also 25% Upgrade Bonus *PLUS* 25% to Cook/Smith/Tailer/Alch]

2) MEDIUM Quests. (another repeated suggestion. ) Actually, It's Fighters---Easy, Rest: Med.
Fighter's Med often = "Ancient Jungles", another impossible Quest (early on)----even you with all you extra classes don't do that right?
BTW Med Quest often require items which Req *MULTIPLE* Upgrades. (for better or worse) *NOT* easy,------but not impossible. (sometimes not possible in the given timeframe [7 days] , & so much skip/cancel.

W/o *BOTH* of those things, such runs just aren't possible! [confirmed from others when I've got details] Your [Hooker] run: Finish D28----& STILL PD greedy Bank!

YES, my MC Master only has 3 classes. (using "Longer Shifts" helps to rush upgrades) ----but he can use Med Armor, [easy 2 craft w current upgrades] & has Mythril sword---43 ATK ----with a "+ 10" hit bonus. (& Phy 115) When properly "dressed" ;-) can handle any Easy Quest, & most Med (EXCEPT AJ!) Dungeons.

Where your Time, Gold, & Resources go are *HUGE* factors ----making good armor (buying mostly matter of "luck", even if lots gold; *PLUS*, No Elf Cap = 1 less shop, so more difficult to find some things) is one good example, & for a decent team you'll need 2x6=12 Outfits. No armor or even just "cloth" often means die fast! (even against Rebels)

As you've said yourself, (somewhere?) the fun comes *AFTER* "end of LoanQuest"-----Plus, once Time Pressure is off, if you want/need to, you can get more classes. [Generally I find good ARMOR *MUCH* more beneficial than tons of classes!]

Oh, Sidenote: Current runs, Including this one, R 1) to test out Alchemy, & 2) To try to narrow down /repeat "screen/Location" bug.
But I use many things learned from advice in this (now LONG lol!) Thread.

Eiyal3 years ago (3 edits)

I guess you didn't saw my 2nd run with saves where I finished by D23? the run went way easier when I played as I liked. The run when I finished by D28 was with HANDICAPS to prove you it was feasible.

"Ancient Jungles even you with all you extra classes don't do that right?"

Actually I could (done that in my 2nd run) but it's extra work when under equipped, still managed to finish it.

With all my classes, 92 EVA enemies are not a problem contrary to you it seems. And I'm still under equipped which means with good items (which will arrive easily) it will be a piece of cake.

Even with just clothes I'm doing fine, I don't die. You saw yourself, half of my 'military' don't have armor and did fine.

Tons of classes gives Tons of useful skills too... make life easier in dungeons you know.

PS: Congrats on your successful run! It seems you found your own way to play the game.

Edit2: W/o *BOTH* of those things, such runs just aren't possible! [confirmed from others when I've got details] Your [Hooker] run: Finish D28----& STILL PD greedy Bank!

Again look at my 2nd run. Without both of those things I did it before D28 and hence did not pay the bank the 3k gold. So yeah I must be a good player after all if others thinks it's impossible without those things.

2nd run saves (not day by day) :

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xyqkgYZxHZSQpY8wVlsIjvLYuLgXTv0n?usp=sha...

Edit3 : quoting myself so you won't have to dig the post

I did encounter some bandits with the nimble and precision trait early on D3 or D4, my squad miss a few hits but I was able to kill them, not an impossible foe to kill imho. I must say when I play normally I steam rolled them. Later (around D15?) I even encountered someone with 90 EVA, 3 mages attacking him and he met his end.

Finished the Loan Quest on D23 and had already 3.3K in gold + materials from dungeons.

Regarding incomes my best hooker was earning 204 gold/day and she could be trained to earn way more ( the cap is 210 in CHA and she is at 134). The 2nd gave 174 gold/day. For the most part I had only 2 hookers. The last 2 slaves were bought specifically for assignment quests.

Concerning dungeons, by the beginning of the 2nd week I can steamroll all the easy ones and potentially do at least 2 per day (if I don't loot but I do loot the area). For 100 gold they are worth it, I obtained great loot in there (staves, armor some made from adamantine and obsidian too, raw materials) By looting the dungeons I could if I wanted build some mansion upgrades without having to buy them in the shop.

I did all the easy quests on the notice board, no MED quests so yeah quite accessible.

I'm repeating myself here but I don't see what prevent you from having successful runs. It's all about time/resource management.

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