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DiminutiveCandle3 years ago (1 edit) (+2)

Thank you very much for clarifying. I guess for the time being, I'll just hope the game might eventually return to Itch, then. Going through SubscribeStar would require several more steps and I'd end up with a key which I'm not 100% sure would even work in my Steam region (unfortunately, Steam is not forthcoming with information about how the region lock works - and they could change the way it works at any time, as we've seen back when the region lock was first implemented). And ultimately, I don't fully trust Steam to not completely remove the game at some point anyways (which does still happen from time to time).

For people looking into getting a key directly from you: Could you maybe say something about whether Patreon subscribers can still get keys? I think people looking for a one-time "subscription" just to get around Steam's dumb policies might be more inclined to use Patreon since they can use PayPal there - but as I understand it, you're having trouble with Patreon at the moment. So is it safe to assume you can still get keys there or should people looking for keys go directly to SubscribeStar?

chris2hill3 years ago(+1)

Fun fact even if it is completely "removed" from the steam store it isn't from libraries. Also games are RARELY taken down anymore. Now it's more up to the devs. Sure there are still some rules but for the most part it has become way more... adult friendly? (That's a term I never thought I'd use in this context.) I'm sure I am unaware of a few facts but in short my point is your distrust in steam is likely from before adult games were allowed. Steam has redone a lot of their rules. Now if you are searching for an easy array of adult games, yes itch is better. I will admit that much.

DiminutiveCandle3 years ago

Technically, my distrust in Steam stems from the fact that they implemented a region lock on all AO games in my country (completely out of the blue), which is not only not required by my country's laws but might even indirectly violate free market laws in my region. So when you say Steam has become a more adult-friendly place, you're probably right, but you should also be aware that Steam can and will pull that rug from under you if they ever feel it's the easiest option for them to avoid controversy.

You do have a point about AO games rarely being fully removed from Steam anymore, though. I guess unless Ravager gets some kind of content added during the EA period which directly violates Steam's rules, it's probably not at risk of being removed. Let's hope for the best so at least other people get to enjoy the full game :)

chris2hill3 years ago

I was unaware this was done in some countries, and I apologize for my lack of research. I hope the issue is removed soon on your end. There is a way (or at the very least was, idk about now) to buy removed games. Problem is you would need to know the exact hyper link to get there. I pulled it off with one game awhile back thanks to I think reddit?

However that was

Taken down by the developer
A popular franchise at the time
4 years ago so steam may have updated their blocking system.

Anyways I hope things go your way. Cheers!

DiminutiveCandle3 years ago (1 edit)

Hey, no need to apologize, you couldn't have known :) And I'm sorry if my last post maybe came off a bit too aggressive, I just wanted to get the point across as a warning for both devs and gamers to not rely (solely) on Steam.

4MinuteWarning3 years ago

As of writing, keys are available via Patreon, but that is unlikely to be the case for very long - I will need to withdraw that benefit to comply with Patreon's recent decisions.

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