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This VN was...something, and not in a good way.

Here are some of the most notable things about this VN (Spoilers, obviously):

Overall, the plot was very predictable due to the authors' reliance on the technique of the Chekhov's Gun. For instance, when Alexios and Cassius won the first trial, someone analyzing the VN could predict that Amicus and the MC were going to win the second trial despite the video showing Amicus having sex with Neferu.  Why? Because the audience is told that there are three trials, so of course the plot is going to be set up in such a way that the third trial comes into play. More on that later. I know that tropes are tools and all that, but this particular trope is VERY overused in this VN. Though it does make for a fun exercise in predicting the plot as is fitting of a TVTroper, the plot itself is not enjoyable because of it.

Speaking of that, it didn't really come as a surprise that Cassius got dirt on Amicus as, of course, we see him sneaking around in Amicus's quarters. On one hand, this and other instances of foreshadowing in the VN do provide a justification for certain events occuring, rather than making it seem like an ass-pull. On the other hand, the sheer amount of Chekhov's Guns in the story makes it incredibly predictable.

I've criticized another VN, called Far Beyond the World, for having characters act dumb for the sake of plot, and this criticism applies to Adastra as well. For instance, when the MC and Amicus land on Adastra, the MC says that he would like Amicus to put away the Nervo (The space taser thing) because he "Doesn't want to think about it", something which comes back to bite him in the ass later on. Why the hell would ANYONE want to discard their one hope of being somewhat on par with an alien being on a planet god knows how far away from home? (Though, to be fair, even if the MC didn't throw away his nervo, Cato and Cassius still would have overpowered him in that scene)

And, of course, Amicus and the MC suspect nothing whatsoever when they see Cassius sneaking around their quarters.

There's also the fact that Virginia and co. try to get Cassius to abdicate the throne in front of a known spy. Of course, things go south after that. 

Then there's the plot contrivances. It seems as though the authors first decided on the plot and then had to figure out how to have the setting fit into it. There's the obvious case of the triumvirates declaring Amicus the victor in the second trial. This is handwaved as "Oh, the triumvirates are corrupt AF and Cassius said that he wants to get rid of them, so they voted against him". No matter how it's explained, it's a glaringly obvious plot contrivance that came into play for reasons discussed in the first paragraph. It's awfully convenient that they didn't decide to vote against Cassius in the first trial, though.

And, of course, it's VERY convenient that the cameras around the palace don't actually save recordings of events, or that anyone can access the records willy-nilly, or that the security drones can't aim when Cato orders the computer to kill the MC.

The part with the MC surviving his avia pox infection is not only a clear plot contrivance, but reeks of another trope. Yes, I know he is supposed to be chosen by the Parents to advance their goals for the Siblings, BUT the fact that the plot of the story just went "And so the MC survived his outbreak of what was supposed to be a fatal disease completely fine" is yet another plot contrivance. However, even if we disregard Marco's survival on the basis of avia pox being a fictional disease, and so maybe that's just how it progresses, the part about his presence on Adastra being the will of the Parents as part of their goals for the Siblings makes for yet another trope: the trope of the Chosen One. In my opinion, the trope of the Chosen One instantly makes a work orders of magnitude worse than it already is. The character is never in any peril because he was chosen by a divine force to carry out a certain plan (Honestly, I like the version of events where the MC dies better. It's a good subversion to the usual trope of "The main character is never in any actual danger when put into a dangerous situation". Alas, that's not the canon sequence of events.).

Not only is the MC of Adastra a Chosen One, but, in the complete series of events, he is saved by yet another plot contrivance that was the result of yet another Chekhov's Gun firing. Boooooooooo.

The one thing I liked about this VN (Besides it being a good study of certain tropes) is the way Neferu is written. He gives off "magnificent bastard" vibes, and I would say that scenes involving him were generally very enjoyable to read.

Oh, and the scene where Amicus introduces himself...since I know that Amicus means "friend" in Latin, that made me both chuckle and cringe at the same time.

Overall, I would say that this is the second-worst VN that I've read, only behind FBtW, but I'm going to future-proof this in case another VN comes along and knocks down Adastra to number 3 on my "Worst VNs I've read" list and simply say that this has been one of the worst VNs that I've read. Most of it, with the exceptions discussed above, is about as enjoyable as watching paint dry. There's probably lots of things I haven't touched on, but this was a very forgettable VN, and I definitely don't feel like replaying it. Those are hours of my life that I'll never get back.


TL;DR: If this is largely considered a good VN, then I'm VERY terrified of what people consider to be a bad VN.

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Honestly, I would like to know what are the three best VNs you've read, since I agreed with every point you wrote here.

I liked Echo much better than Adastra and FBtW combined for instance. Also, I think it's important to make fun of Chekhov's gun, as it brings more realism to the fictional world. The details matter.

Let's not talk about the black sheep that is FBtW...or risk getting cancelled; mods might censor Adastra forums too.

Best 3 (in no order): Adastra, Echo, and the Smoke Room.

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For me, my top 3 VNs (Subject to change, in no particular order) are: Echo, Blackgate, and Lyre. However, the latter 2 are still in development, and Lyre doesn't have much content compared to Adastra. 

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So, instead of enjoying a reading you go rolling your eyes while finding all the technical resources they employed to develop the story. It must really suck to be you LOL.

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It's a bit hard to enjoy the VN when the elements that make the plot horrible are so glaringly obvious.

I don't "find" the tropes that the writers used so much as I instantly recognize them when they come up.

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It makes me sad that people won't understand that these games are most of the time not made by professionals. Yeah the story is shitty compared to stories such as Game of Thrones or His Dark Materials, but it remains a gay romance furry sci-fi visual novel only found on itch.io
How can you expect to have something perfect out of Adastra, and FBtW?
I think people like you don't really understand that we don't play these kind of games only to analyse it and literally spitting on it.

We play these kind of games because it allows us to feel safer, less alone, and mostly because it's fun That literally makes me sick how you shit on this visual novel just because it's not up to your expectations. You can't say you're afraid of what people consider bad VNs, everyone has a different opinion.

Also, I'd like to add that if FBtW's comment section has been closed, it's mostly because of people like you shitting on games you probably have no interest in. I literally read some non-furry straight people playing this game and making a full review to say how much it sucks, so for the love of whatever God you believe in and for the authors' sake, just keep your nasty comments for yourself...

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"It makes me sad that people won't understand that these games are most of the time not made by professionals. Yeah the story is shitty compared to stories such as Game of Thrones or His Dark Materials, but it remains a gay romance furry sci-fi visual novel only found on itch.io"

The fact that the story is not made by professionals does not absolve it of criticism. And there are VNs that do not suffer from the flaws that Adastra and FBTW do, so it is absolutely do-able.

"How can you expect to have something perfect out of Adastra, and FBtW?"

I don't necessarily expect a VN to be perfect, I just expect it to not be shit.

"I think people like you don't really understand that we don't play these kind of games only to analyse it and literally spitting on it."

"Also, I'd like to add that if FBtW's comment section has been closed, it's mostly because of people like you shitting on games you probably have no interest in."

While I am most flattered that you think that I am so dedicated that I would play through a game that's about as enjoyable as having a power drill rammed through my head solely to write a review on why it is shit, that is unfortunately not the case. I play games to try to enjoy the plot and to deal with boredom.

"We play these kind of games because it allows us to feel safer, less alone..."

That's a pretty damning statement about the quality of your life, don't you think? You might want to examine that.

"That literally makes me sick how you shit on this visual novel just because it's not up to your expectations"

What are you worried about? Some guy on the internet writing a review about why he thinks Adastra is bad in no way affects your ability to play the game.

"You can't say you're afraid of what people consider bad VNs, everyone has a different opinion."

People may have different opinions, but there is such a thing as "General consensus" regarding the quality of a given work.

"Also, I'd like to add that if FBtW's comment section has been closed, it's mostly because of people like you shitting on games you probably have no interest in."

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IIRC, during the final days before the comment section got nuked, people were mostly commenting on how Kael kept lying about when he would be able to release a new update to FBTW, and some people were linking the "Manipulation, Hypocrisy, Slander, Inaction" video. The "Official" reason why the comment section got closed is because supposedly someone posted a link to download the patreon content. However, given the content of the aforementioned video and the lack of evidence regarding a Patreon content leak, I am inclined to believe otherwise.

"so for the love of whatever God you believe in and for the authors' sake, just keep your nasty comments for yourself"

The attitude of "Keep your dissenting opinions to yourself" is exactly how toxic echo chambers with their own share of cancel-warriors are born. 

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Yeah yeah, we saw you, you are "different" you got attention now. Let us enjoy our "shitty" VN

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SPOLIERS (obviously):

I believe your review of this game isn't very fair. I don't think the point of this VN is the plot, but rather the character building. The development the MC (or Marco as he's named) and Amicus is the reason it's so highly regarded. The plot serves, as flawed as it can be, to guide these two through emotionally taxing experiences to bond them further. You've read the VN, you know what they go through, so there's no need to elaborate on what they do. While looking at this game from a critical point of view can make it seem mediocre, the heartstring tugging the game pulls throughout and ends on is plenty enough for many to love this game and for it to deserve to be considered good, or even great. I highly recommend playing through again, instead putting yourself in the shoes of the characters versus simply going in initially with a critical viewpoint, because that's a surefire way to immediately not enjoy something. 

My viewpoint however does not mean I do not see your points in the flaws of this game. Your analysis of the flaws are well thought out and make sense to a great degree. I like your criticisms. But I implore you, if you go into things immediately critically, it'll be hard to see the good in things others see. 

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Good to know that I'm not the only one who got bored being the silent passegner of this artificial emotional rollercoaster. As you hinted before, the plot feels like it serves more for the reasoning of the drammatic events, rather than actualy having something to tell. Just one thing with the most of the characters (except boyfriend material and gold comedy) being all kinds of jerks gives the love story some forced vibes.

Green Cat - Manipulative spy

Albino Snowflake - Narcissistic coward

Iron Mask - Unreasonable Sociopath

Forerunner Daddy - Railroad Conductor 



P.S: Good detailed review.

I decided to give this a go and see what all the fuss is about, and it's really taking everything I have to get through this VN. I'm likely going to stop because it's just badly written. I once heard somewhere that people only download furry VN's for the pictures, not the story, and it's blatantly clear why (though the art and the characters in this VN are mediocre at best). 

For the life of me, I have no idea why this is so popular. The pacing is god-awful and the tropes...it's so wish-fulfillment type cringey that I probably won't be able to even get half-way before putting this down. I'm waiting for the 'good story' I've heard so much about to start. So far I'm not at all impressed.