Post by Karl Heinz in Some questions and requests (ongoing)

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Some more thoughts on a first test with one of the generated midi tracks after renaming:

- there is an absolute unlogical out of beat pause at the beginning which I have to cut (in this case 1 and a half beat ???) on all tracks. Does not make any sense, if it meant to be an intro when there is no track playing. My song tempo is exactly 60 like in the song generated so that could not cause the problem.

- empty midi tracks should not be expported that just confuses, maybe there is a way to avoid/filter this before the export/save (if there are no notes, dont export or something like that)

- the main problem for me: there are complete empty parts on all tracks just in the the song at different positions (around 8 bars long, so I would assume whole songparts). I would think this is a bug cause if all the parts I have chosen in the song structure (verse-chorus-bridge-solo in this case) gets generated there could not be these completely empty parts at different positions of the song.

Summary: I think there needs to be a logical "filter" before the export OR more control/visualisation of the generated track before the export to avoid such problems. In the moment it is simply not really a "song" that gets exported but parts with pauses more or less logical arranged. Or if its a bug just needs to be fixed and then see what happens if its fixed. And maybe simplification would help at some point (a simple chord track with the chord progression going on on ONE track, not separated).

What I like is the general idea of the song generated, the AI behind it seem to be capable, in general the generated results are really musical and useful.

KodingNights2 years ago

Filtering is a good idea. Split between song and chorus etc is also a good idea. Putting it the todo list.

I will remove the start pause.

The chord progressions are on their own tracks already?

Karl Heinz2 years ago

No, at least I did not recognize thats why I ask for a simple chord track that represents the chord progression.

The only tracks with chords on it are the "epiano" and "harmonica", but they dont run threw.

KodingNights2 years ago

Oh so you want the chord to play through the entirety of the song? I guess I could add that as an option but I think the resulting song will suffer.

Karl Heinz2 years ago

Yes, I agree, sorry, I should have explained :-).

The chord track is only to be able to use some other generative tools, sequencers, arps and so on on it to make them easiely play in tune with the song from mugen. Or to "recognize" the chordprogression on that track.

Of course it would be bothering to let it play all the time :-)

KodingNights2 years ago (1 edit)

But if the track is there it will be played :-)

I see what you want and why you want it but that particular use case is a little bit outside the scope of the program at the moment.

However, I could add another 'creator' mode where things like that could be done, where the focus is not so much creating songs to listen to outright, but rather to create building blocks for a DAW do to speak.

Karl Heinz2 years ago

That would be absolutely great :-).

Of course not evrything could be done at once :-)

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