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Sometimes having no melody or harmony ideas can lead to some cool stuff. Starting with no pre-conceived notion of what music "should" sound like allows you to more fully explore your creativity. 

One of my favorite bands, The Residents, started this way. They essentially had no experience making music and they just kept doing it anyway. They made some  music that turned out weird in the best way. I highly recommend checking out some of their stuff. I can give some specific recommendations if that's something you're interested in. 

WOW! Thanks! It will be interesting to explore new music visions. Of course, give recomendation, show me this direction, as you see it. Give some comments. Looks you have something to say about it! I really like this idea, idea you are talking about! Cool, that some band start this way and start to create cool music. This is perfect motivations! It will be interesting to check some stuff for ideas, inspiration and so on!

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I hope that, even if you don't exactly like any of these recommendation, something in here will at least inspire you to keep making exactly what you want to make.


Sometimes the band would experiment with the "pop" format of making music with distinct, repeatable sections. The most notable albums in this style are "Duck Stab!" and "The Commercial Album". Below are links to the songs "Constantinople" and "Hello Skinny" from "Duck Stab!" as well as "Easter Woman" and "Give it to Someone Else" from "The Commercial Album".




The concept albums "The Mark of the Mole" and "The Tunes of Two Cities" are songs in two distinct styles representing music made by working class Moles who live underground and the high-class Chubs who exploit the Moles' labor. The Mole songs are an industrial style, while the Chub songs are a cocktail Jazz style, the contrast meant to represent the different lifestyles of these fictional groups. While there are occasionally vocals in these songs, they are mostly instrumental. I think, based on the songs you made and posted in this topic, these might be more interesting to you. Below are the opening tracks from both of those albums ("Voices of the Air" from "The Mark of the Mole" and "Serenade for Missy" from "Tunes of Two Cities").





Sorry for the long-winded post. I hope some of this is within your area of interest!

NO! Everything is very good! Thanks for big ideas post! Ineed to learn all this stuff. Sometimes scary, arthouse, "not like everyone so alien" style. Interesting ideas! Indeed!  Yes indeed some Mark Of The Mole is closer. Thats very certain thing you mentioned!  I am still listening it! It has lots of everything, songs.  Industrial... 

By the way some song i start - was like TOM WAITS... not exacltly. Of course, not the same. I just first time to listen RESEDENTS band, that youreccomend. And first idea - it is close to arthouse, sometimes industrial,trash, avangarde like Tom Waits... first impressions.

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That song is really cool! I like Tom Waits quite a bit but I've never heard that one before. I'm a big fan of his albums Rain Dogs and Blood Money but other than those I haven't spent a ton of time listening to other albums, I should give them a go. Do you have any suggestions for other good Tom Waits albums that you like?

Well, i also listen few albums./ But i can tell you about MOVIE concert. BIG TIME, it has very arthouse visual, theatrcial show.

Tom Waits BIG TIME


And about albums.

I like this one. Some of his albums was more melodical and less arthouse. And i lestened to them.  For example, check the song "New Coat of Paint"

Tom Waits  Heart of Saturday Night

Tom Waits Closing Time

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I was listening to "Way Down in the Hole" and I could spot from a mile away that he had Marc Ribot doing guitar on that. I love Marc Ribot. He worked with my favorite jazz group possibly ever, Lounge Lizards. If you've never listened to them and would like some recommendations I'd be happy to give some.

Both that song and the one before are definitely very art-house, as you put it. Those are apparently from the albums directly following Rain Dogs, so I'm thinking I should give those a listen.

I've definitely listened to the older stuff like Closing Time and while I remember it all being very nice, it certainly lacks the unique character of Waits' later stuff. Early Waits is the kind of music I might put on if I'm in the same mood I would be in if I wanted to listen to Bob Dylan (whom I also love).

Thanks, I appreciate these recommendations. I think I can see myself going on a bit of a Tom Waits kick after this.

cool! i never heard about jazz lizards band. of course, show something about them. Interesting what music they do, what albums are interesting. 

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Voice of Chunk was the first album I heard by them. It's really nice, soothing. Good for a night drive or for when it's raining. Here is the opening track of the album: 

The way this next song builds makes it most likely my favorite Lounge Lizards track. This is "The First and Royal Queen" from their third album, The Queen of All Ears.

I believe the band only has 4 studio albums. Each one is great from start to finish. Their first album is more rooted in the sound of jazz at the time, but they expand and experiment with the subsequent albums.

wow! this is extremely nice music! this jazz! thanks! i d like to listen it! It has some special mood. Every good music has a specil mood.