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he gets mad and you get a black heart and can fight him whenever to make him bottom

how do I do that?

There a scene in Fishing village that you can really fight him. If you tease him until his libido reach 100% and choose to fuck him, he will hate you (get a black heart) and he will avoid to meet you (so scene with him will no longer trigger).

i am wondering if i encountered a glitch maybe I missed something here. 

Have you visit Iron Blood tribe village yet? There should be at the top of the map. 
And another question, have you ever meet Groth while you explore wasteland?

no haven't met groth yet  still searching for him

Try to searching more until you meet him, then he will talk about his tribe and bring you there.

i may do a fresh play through though still searching for groth

About that, there should be a option 'look around'. You need to look around the area there untill you find him since it RNG. So there a chance that you wouldn't meet him in several try.

all right im gonna give it one more go. thanks itsara

I am working on the searching groth. I wanted to ask if i could get a save file that I could use for a fem mc.

I haven't play this game as Female protagonist once, sorry that I couldn't help.

it is okay no worries. i might just replay the game

in the misty abyss i just met the exiled lizard was there more about hissh?

No, there still no more info about hissh in this current update.

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After unlocking the fishing village you can fight him once a day in the rivers bank. The majority of his sex scenes don't get triggered if you have a black heart, but the caravan scenes near the bar and the scenes when you prostitute yourself at Bareshade are some exceptions.