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I do wish there was a way to make Gunnar less cocky over us in the game too. It be interesting to see how pissed he be if he was made into a bottom. Lol

he gets mad and you get a black heart and can fight him whenever to make him bottom

how do I do that?

There a scene in Fishing village that you can really fight him. If you tease him until his libido reach 100% and choose to fuck him, he will hate you (get a black heart) and he will avoid to meet you (so scene with him will no longer trigger).

i am wondering if i encountered a glitch maybe I missed something here. 

Have you visit Iron Blood tribe village yet? There should be at the top of the map. 
And another question, have you ever meet Groth while you explore wasteland?

no haven't met groth yet  still searching for him

Try to searching more until you meet him, then he will talk about his tribe and bring you there.

i may do a fresh play through though still searching for groth

About that, there should be a option 'look around'. You need to look around the area there untill you find him since it RNG. So there a chance that you wouldn't meet him in several try.

I am working on the searching groth. I wanted to ask if i could get a save file that I could use for a fem mc.

I haven't play this game as Female protagonist once, sorry that I couldn't help.

in the misty abyss i just met the exiled lizard was there more about hissh?

No, there still no more info about hissh in this current update.

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After unlocking the fishing village you can fight him once a day in the rivers bank. The majority of his sex scenes don't get triggered if you have a black heart, but the caravan scenes near the bar and the scenes when you prostitute yourself at Bareshade are some exceptions.

It is worth noting!  As you proceed, you now can have a /few/ interactions with him which are at the very least 'not negative'.  He's still definitely being cocky, but he's at least /more/ amenable to talking to you.

Makes me feel like there might be /something/ akin to, if not a relationship, at least just friendship between the two of us, haha, despite me being firmly a top.

Unrelatedly, I have been told that at this point you can have a very different relationship with Gunnar if you /are/ a bottom or are female.  So if goal was 'Friendship with Gunnar' or at least 'Not Enemies with Gunnar' then there are two potential paths to that, haha.

(Of course, if the goal /is/ 'Enemies with Gunnar', that one is easier if you can beat him in a fight)

that is another way to look at it, and  that makes a whole lot of sense. I am doing a replay through so im gonna try that route.

how  do you go the friendship route?

The main thing is that if you beat him in a fight, be sure you /don't/ penetrate him.  Mutual masturbation is fine, just 'do not get a black heart'.


Then besides that, it's just 'generally don't be a huge jerk to him', even when he kind of deserves it.  When he insults you, roll your eyes but don't necessarily snap back.  Help him out when he needs some herbalism while building up Bareshade.  Don't tell Torben about his duplicity.


The meetings, I will emphasize, are not particularly 'friendly' yet haha, just a lot less hostile than they were at first.  He's mellowing.


...now if you're a bottom or female, another option is to just cooperate with him and let him be in charge, in which he will presumably be a lot happier with you quickly haha.  

Just make sure you don't get a black heart with him and hey.