Not to mention most developers on here are hobbyists. I have zero computer qualifications. I don't even use them at work. I reckon the last time I used windows was quite possibly Vista in maybe 2010. Newest Mac os I've used is 10.8 mountain lion. Do my games reflect this? Yes of course they do. Doesn't mean I havn't put as much effort in as possible to get the product to the highest quality I can. As I'm sure is the case for many devs on here. But I'm happy with what I made and I did all I could. It's indie for a reason. Many devs use this as a way to hone their skill sets and unlock doors to bigger and better things. I do agree that there is some very low effort games on here though!!!