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YDrone1 year ago (1 edit) (-2)

"And you also downplay Pol-Pots genocide, of course"

I don't agree that Pol Pot carried out genocide. Because he didn't. When Cambodia went into famine, people from the villages started arriving in the cities. But there was no food in the cities either. Then people began to be driven back to the villages, where there was little food, but it was there. Many died on the way. Well, what else was Pol Pot supposed to do? Let people starve to death in the cities? And it was the U.S. bombing that caused the famine. Or am I wrong and will you tell us the truth? And what does this have to do with Pol Pot? Where were his policies consistent with Marxist theory?

"And both committed genocide lol""

Give me at least one example of a genocide committed by Stalin.

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Tae Fennec1 year ago

interesting point

who toppled the Khmer rouge?

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YDrone1 year ago (2 edits) (-2)

Here is the text from this article:

"The Cambodian genocide was the systematic persecution and killing of Cambodian citizens by the Khmer Rouge under the leadership of Communist Party of Kampuchea general secretary Pol Pot, who radically pushed Cambodia towards an entirely self-sufficient agrarian socialist society."

Now let's read Stalin:

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1906/03/x01.htm

"Let us first deal with the point that in introducing socialism, the Socialist-Revolutionaries want to begin with the countryside. Is this possible? Everybody knows that the town is more developed than the countryside, that the town is the leader of the countryside, and, consequently, every activity for socialism must begin in the town. The Socialist-Revolutionaries, however, want to convert the countryside into the leader of the town and to compel the countryside to begin introducing socialism, which of course is impossible owing to the backwardness of the countryside. Hence, it is obvious that the 'socialism' of the Socialist-Revolutionaries will be stillborn socialism."

Stalin wrote about the mistakes of the Socialist-Revolutionary Party, but it is also true of Pol Pot. Here we see that Pol Pot, with his agrarian socialism, has clearly departed from Marxism. I see no point in digging deeper into the subject now and parsing the whole wikipedia article.

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YDrone1 year ago

Well, yes, the fundamental question here is whether or not a politician who calls himself a communist is building communism. This is the basis of Marxism. Many people call themselves communists, but to understand who is a real communist, you have to study the theory. This is very important, because it determines what kind of policies these people will pursue. Of course, only real communists will fight fully for the interests of the workers. The rest will either start making mistakes, like the Utopian Communists, or limit themselves to half measures and preserve capitalism (Menshevism), or pursue capitalist and sometimes nationalist policies, using Marxism for populist purposes (most current legal Communist parties do this). There are also the more cunning ones. They will mimic real communists until the revolution wins, and after the victory they will engage in power struggles and the restoration of capitalism. This is the most vile kind of politician from the point of view of Marxism. This is called Trotskyism.

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