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Well, I agree with you 100%. And something was already on my mind, but you gave me a really good idea! Bestiality is forbidden in many places, but what about magic creatures? And what if they can walk on 2 legs and do feral stuff only when in sex scene? Plus, I really can do a size difference! Or tentacles.

Thank you for your big response and this idea in particular:3

I mean the main reason bestiality is bad is the creature cannot consent. If it is a creature that can switch between both that would nullify that. I mean a druid character/enemy can fight as humanoid then switch to a beast. That way its not pure beast content.

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Nah, this shapeshifting thing is a great idea, but it won't trick Patreon and most sites... I literally asked mods about this, lol

This is why patreon < subscribestar tbh. Substar takes less of your earnings too. And they dont monitor your sites for such things. But if you are on patreon keep in mind rape, non consensual, violence with sexual tones, and even furry x human are all no nos too. I am disappointed you are on patreon tbh. They ruin everything almost all the time. 

And finding out you are on Patreon makes me worried for you. Catching/slavery is also against terms of service which is in your game. All patreon allows is the most vanilla content. Hell I saw 7 of my favorite game makers get banned for "implied" rape.

Not even real rape "implied".

You will suffer the same fate I am afraid. I mean it is your game but patreon is like big brother in that regard. 

Best of luck to you but if this game is patreon only I have lost all interest in it. Sorry but I hate patreon with a passion and refuse to allow them to dictate what is allowed and not. Seeing as they turn a blind eye to actual illegal content.

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Relax, I hate it as much as you do. Plus, I mostly aim for SubscribeStar (I got banned three times on Patreon, lol). Plus, they are not against furry (they said it, adding that my game is clear and I can proceed with development).

I have a few kinks in mind that I can use even with Patreon. So don't you worry, Ryproar

You hate it but you stay there. 

Trust me friend you will find out how fickle they are. My favorite game dev went to sibstar because they changed their mind on human x furry and dragon x furry.

He was given no warnings or heads up. Plus they can and do stop payments if you get anything they don't like. 

Case in point I got a 3 month suspension for saying I hated them blocking a Russian dev for being in Russia. 

They are fickle. Very very fickle.

You wanting to add mystical creatures will get shut down too for being beast adjacent. I have seen it happen 7 times.

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I accept this risk. And I know Patreon. And I hate it. I have a lot of stories like this myself. And I will not put fans above money. I never did (my very first ban)

I am going to post my reasoning for the removal of the dislike. 

You think that your game will get banned for feral content because no one likes it or patreon will get you. You said 70% of your support is through that stifling crap storm of a site.

Look up the following games:

Beasts in the Sun -Animo (beast content mostly)

Teenluma on itch.

Karne games

And Syahata's bad day.

They all have beast content and have huge followings. 

Karnes made the beasts into straight up monsters.

Animo literally has a long line of beast content.

Teenluma just does dog stuff.

And Syahatas bad day has zombie beasts.

The funny thing is 3 of them did have patreon support but they changed the rules several times so they went elsewhere.

Animo is making over 30k a month.

Karne has 2 popular ganes on Steam.

Syahata uses itch and ci-en dlsite 

And Teenluma uses their own site and itch.

One of my favorite games wicked island is here too and they have a substar.

The problem I am seeing is hardly anyone knows about substar or thinks it is not worth their time. In actuality substar doesn't have many issues as long as it is fake not real. Hell they have cub artists there. You could add the beast content but only post it on substar as a patch like Predation did.

Predation is also on itch. They have beast content on substar version only. Patreon can technically block that but if you make it so they have to pay you can subvert that by CHANGING THE NAME. Homelands on Patreon, Backwoods on Substar. 

Oh and randomcrows has full on beast stuff too on patreon. Forgot that one.

Holy shit sounds like I need to make a full research on the titles you gave me. Uh.. Why is there always a dilemma. You either create really gross stuff and earn billions or make regular porn and can go fuck yourself 

It's not really that. Niche patrons pay more to get niche products. Supply and demand 101.

Furry patrons like animal like genitals and feral stuff.

Vore folk like vore most dragon lovers like that.

Monster lovers love well.... You get the point.

Animopron went full niche and gathered the niche supporters. Niche supporters will pay more to get said niche content.

Karne made his game first then added monster stuff BUT to get the niche even further he added feral monsters.

Wicked Island said no feral enemies BUT made beast like enemies that can do feral stuff.

And one on patreon I support 100% since day one is WildLife. It is human x anthro but the anthro are more animal than person. So for instance wolves have dog equipment and felines feline equipment. They filled a niche and still complied with patreon.

I was just showing you if you are willing to dip into taboo you can ask a bit more money for it and most that like that content will pay. That us why those niche substar users do so well.

Add a niche and advertise it then they will come.

F95 zone can show you that one first hand. All the games and devs I mentioned are on there if you want to see.

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Oh and you are welcome. I have a lot of ideas due to me being a modder for skyrim and baldurs gate. 😂  My idea for the creature came from Halsin in particular. He can shape-shift to a bear for a sex scene and I was like "Hey that's an idea!" 😂 

Did patreon shoot this down too? You never mentioned it after your last comment. 

Sorry, not sure what "this" refers to.. Patreon didn't ban Homelands yet, if you are talking about this. I checked a few minutes ago:)

Magic creatures. You said you were thinking about this one to add size difference and feral stuff but not really feral. That is what i am referring too. 

I left your Discord because your comment about not doing real bestiality sounded like you were pissed at me. I would have said it there but like I said I read your comment as anger.

Oh.. No, I wasn't angry at you. Actually, I'm very surprised to hear this. Well, English is not my native language so maybe I picked wrong words or something.. 
In fact, I was sad about you leaving. Language barrier is real...

And I still want to add magic creatures. Not sure how, but this is a question for future me.

Oh I see. 

The way you worded your response made me think you were mad at me for bringing up beast and cub stuff. That is why I left.

I wasn't saying it should be added I was just saying patreon vs subscribestar isn't about ease of use or money gained. It is freedom of artistic liberty.

That is why those folk I mentioned went there and told everyone about it.

I will rejoin the discord. It was a language barrier I suppose. I know English only thanks to the amazing USA. (Sigh...)  That is why I read things literally. Social media kinda poisoned the well if you get my drift.