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From the moment Kazuma had the hypocrisy to mock other harem animes' protagonists and be the same, it was over for me, I couldn't respect him anymore. I find him definitely more interesting in Adventurer Trainer. And you're right that I wouldn't have enjoyed playing as a random stranger instead of Kazuma, I'm so glad I discovered the game after it was redesigned, my first impression would have been bad otherwise! 😅 I enjoy playing as Kazuma because it is a sweet revenge on the anime who frustrated me to play as an alternative better version of its own protagonist, it feels as if you say fuck off to the anime because it censored its own characters but here they are free to be their real selves and that feels liberating and much more enjoyable than to introduce a random stranger! 😆

Original Kazuma's cringe comedy is common to all "for all public" anime characters, I despised Kazuma specifically because he acknowledged this pattern and mocked it whereas he sticks to it as well but it is unfair to despise him for this pattern when they all are the same, if you despise Kazuma (and Issei) then you despise all harem animes' protagonists because they are all the same actually.

"You watched it because you had nothing else to watch"?!? Oh come on! When I watched animes, I always had TOO MANY to watch, there are THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS of animes, they are a never-stopping industry, they are mass-produced in japanese factories called studios! You don't enjoy watching an anime? No problem, find another to watch among the THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS of already existing animes!

Unless you are a mainstreamer, that is, someone who pays attention only to what everyone talks about, only to what is popular, who follows the "mainstream" and never adventures to uncharted territories? 😏

Tastes are born from experiences and can be explained and understood, they are not a mystical incomprehensible personal mystery that we have no control over. 😉

I played Overlord H from WinterFire and I disliked the fact that he stuck too much to the original character even though he actually has sex with his harem as opposite to the original character who rejects every girl (which infuriated me! 😣), he is the same pragmatic who never does anything without a purpose, he just doesn't know how to genuinely enjoy himself without ulterior motives, which makes him pathetic, but what makes him even more pathetic is that he is obsessed with finding his guild-mates who abandoned him and their guild like a lost puppy who can't get over his abandonment, he is so pathetic that he makes me feel physically sick. I bitterly regret that WinterFire stuck too much to the original pathetic character but I wouldn't have enjoyed playing a random stranger because I would feel out of place and he impressed me because he imagined his own storylines for characters who are quickly got rid of in the anime, for examples Clementine who the original protagonist kills at first encounter, he gave a choice to spare her and invented by himself a new storyline which includes her to the end even though the anime introduces her and gets rid of her in a single episode, the same goes for Arche that once again the original protagonist kills without any mercy and pointlessly wastes a life, once again the anime introduces her and gets rid of her in a single episode, until WinterFire gave a choice to spare her and invented by himself a new storyline which includes her to the end, that really impresses me that he invents by himself consistent new storylines to include changes made by players, new entire storylines for characters who barely have any in the original (bland) version of the story and that he does so in a way that everything remains consistent, he doesn't break the story's consistency, if anything, he IMPROVES it! Naitoh should learn from him when the moment to kill Raynare will come, if it was WinterFire, he would give a choice to spare her and invent by himself a new storyline to include her into the story to the end, probably she would gradually grow to genuinely love Issei and feel guilty for how she treated him and she would repent, which could be an amazing turn of the story since Issei was traumatized by her, that would be meaningful if they reconcile! 😆 But this is not WinterFire and I don't know how much Naitoh will dare to diverge from the original story to offer new possibilities?

I actually appreciated Bell much more than I did Kazuma because at least HE was not hypocrite! I can't wait for WinterFire to complete his game, I have been waiting for it to be complete to play it!

There are so many animes which deserve an adult game version, another example which comes to my mind is Campione! The harem anime in which the protagonist is a god-slayer surrounded by loving girls and does nothing with them because "for all public", the anime shows even a scene in which he kisses a girl so forcefully that her mouth bleeds and after that she caresses her belly saying that she feels his love inside her which makes it obvious that they actually had sex and the anime censored it into a kiss, her bleeding was her hymen breaking and we all know what he released inside of her womb, this is one more anime which frustrated me because of its cursed "for all public" censorship which deserves an adult game version to get rid of the censorship and offer new possibilities. And there are so many more! Basically all harem animes ever made. 😏

Wait WHAT?!? WinterFire made it EXCLUSIVE?!? NO HAREM OPTION?!? WHAT THE FUCK?!? Since when WinterFire is anti-harem?!? Since when does he force us to choose one and exclude others?!? FUCK THIS MONOGAMOUS BULLSHIT! If what you say is true and that he tries to force exclusive relationships, then I won't even bother playing his game if I will have to exclude girls that I want! I don't play games which force exclusive relationships, I leave them to people dumb enough to believe that monogamy actually works. Damn it! I am SOOOOOO disappointed now!!! 😣

I noticed that every version of DxD has been released with 6 months between them so I logically assume that every new version is released every 6 months and since the current version was released in June 2023 then I assume that the next version will be released in December 2023. 🤔

DoomMarine1 year ago

It's really a matter of taste, it's a mandatory thing. anyway, about Kazuma... mah, his only problem is the history he has as an otaku loser before being isekaid in Axel's world, all for the sake of comedy. I didn't like the Adventure Trainer redesign, but I did like the reboot of the story "Kazuma in debt stratospheric, just because he saved the city from making the Destroyer explode in a nobleman's house", it's still ridiculous to see how unlucky the guy can be in his own luck.

Anyway, depending on the choices the player makes that have the greatest influence on Kazuma's actions, it is acceptable to play! I didn't want a porn game that was just a scary comedy with no character development. But either way, as long as there are options and routes for me to choose from in Adventure Trainer, I'll keep playing!

“I played Overlord H from WinterFire and I didn't like the fact that he was too attached to the original character, even though he actually has sex with his harem.” I also played that game, Overlord remains the best isekai work for me, but whatever. at the beginning of the game, I may be traveling now... Ainz, finds a ring that allows him to return to human form and go through these perverted adventures but that was a long time ago, when I tried to return to the game all this content was removed, which led me to abandon the game, because that's exactly what you explained. Winterfire was too focused on making Ainz faithful, ignoring everything else. If you hadn't told me I wouldn't have known about this "Clementine's choice option" Death o Alive. the idea is good, I don't know if Naitoh can bring this to Devil's Academy DxD with Reynare in question. mah, even if Dev lets the players decide Raynare's future, I'd kill that bitch without a second thought. despite Issei being a great simpleton of a woman who only thinks with her head. Even so, he deserved all the suffering he sought from the Suahshs. but I didn't like the fact that Raynare killed Asia. Like I said before, once I don't like a certain character, I rarely like them again.

"Wait what?!? WinterFire made it EXCLUSIVE?!? NO HAREM OPTION?!? WHAT THE FUCK?!? Since when is WinterFire anti-harem?!? Since when does it make us choose one and exclude others?!?" That's not the point, from what little I know about Danmachi's “game-based knowledge”, Danmachi has everything it takes to be a harem. however, the problem is rooted in MC "Bell". in the original work it is shown that Bell has a somewhat blind love at first sight for Ainz Wallenstein. Bell has that Harem hating tag, he would hate himself to be selfish and make a girl sad. He's too prudish for my taste. so that's how Winterfire developed the game, of course here in this VN the player has the chance to pick up another girl. As I'm doing on my main route... I took Hestia as a companion, after all, I never liked Bell's personality, much less Ainz. She was one of the most expressionless girls in the game, she was beautiful but her personality was apathetic. Anyway, that's it... the game doesn't force you to choose a girl, you can beat the game if you want without choosing a girl if you want. but the key point of the game is to make Bell an atypical character. he could be a chicken, or he could be more of a steel ball, it will depend on the player.

Anyway, I don't think the problem is with Winterfire, since his last game "Overlord" was with a Harem theme, and in Legacy of Hestia he wanted to bring something different, "One girl per route" If I'm not mistaken, there are some routes "Like Demeter, Eina, Liruca and Hestia" there should probably be more. and if I'm not mistaken, there's a way for Bell to get two different girls, in this case Hestia and Liliruca, in which case I don't think it should even be considered Harem. but I'm not sure how to do that, the game walkthrough is for Patron only, but it's still an amazing game.

Either way, I recommend you play it. the game has over 15 hours of gameplay, and it looks like Winterfire wants to make a Legacy of Hestia 2, continuing where the first one ends.

So... Devil's Academy DxD receive 2 updates this year? meh, that's annoying, but I don't blame! I've seen games only receive one update per year! :(

Concluding here, I recommend you keep an eye on the game threads in development, on the F95zone forum and community, Winterfire has the idea of launching a DxD VN with the core of the game being Harem.

Maxime Martyr1 year ago

Excuse me to ask this but I have to ask did you drink alcohol or something since your previous message? Because your last message was a lot less easy to read, it was confused and incoherent as if you were drunk, is that the case? 🤔

DoomMarine1 year ago

No, I'm not drunk or anything. I'm Brazilian, and English is not my native language, Brazilian Portuguese is. Anyway, sorry for the inconsistency, I have to speak in English to the best of my abilities xD!

Maxime Martyr1 year ago(+1)

And I'm french so english is not our native language to either of us. 😉

Anyway I asked this because your speech was different in your last message while all of your previous messages were perfectly clear so I was wondering why is it that your last message is different than the others, you see?

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