In 9 days it will have been 6 months since the last Public Release. What is the hold up? Why is there no news? When will the next Release go live?
As I keep saying, No I will not join 'the proper channels'. I have this channel and that should be enough. If I am being an 'obnoxious entitled Karen' then its because I'm disappointed as hell by what I used to consider a top grade creator. As for stopping playing the game, yes I have decided to do that. Now I'm just dealing with the fall out.
By the way, if I'm a Karen then your Caribdis's little bitch. Have fun sucking his cock.
1. he is releasing big updates quicker then most developers
2. His updates are bigger then 90% of the VNs that got released in the last 6 months
3. The quality is on another level compared to most other games, there are only a few that are on the same level and they take around as long for updates as this game
4. He has been greatly improving during development which of course means he takes longer and longer for the better quality, just comlare it to his last game, even of i liked it the quality doesn't come close to this game
Also if you think this game isn't worth any support because you're to impatient to wait for the update then you are really stupid, the fact that you don't realize that a game with high quality and big, content rich updates take long to develop is sad
I realize completely how long it takes. I followed the Development of BG3, which took like 8 years. Heres the thing, being Patient is stupid. Being Understanding is stupid. It encourages laziness. Being impatient is like lighting a bonfire under the devs arse. If he wants my support he'd better pull his finger out or at least keep me informed...
You way is just giving him free money!
I mean lets look at it this way... Starfield took like 8 years too, and that game cost me $120 AUD. Thats like $1.25 per month of Dev time. I have played over 440 hours of that game. Well worth the investment!
Now If I compare it to Eternum... I get nowhere near the value, especially if I consider its not done yet! If I donate $10 per month per release, then I'm paying like $360 so far! Just following the pattern I've seen so far! Its an absolute rip off!
So why should I pay for this? The Empasis is on Caribdis to provide answer for that since I can just go find another source of entertainment thats just as good if not better than his.
Lool your a bigger idiot than I originally thought, you can't compare starfield to this this and the development. Completely different levels of programming and software.
It doesn't matter about the money you spent douchebag. It gets uploaded for free. Your problem if you paid.
He has no obligation to respond to you, you keep saying "if he wants my support"
I don't think he does want you support lol. I don't think any game creator would want your support if this how you are lol
Your one person out of many and the many others happen to like the game and wait patiently,
your the one annoyingly dense person and from what I can see the only person complaining so hard about this matter of no response.
Your the literal definition of "no life and nothing better to do with my time type of person" move on and a find a game that releases every week to satisfy your impatience and see the release has hardly any content and find yourself constantly downloading and updating the same game all the time.
I hate to think what you would be like waiting for sequels to movies and series. Bro be messaging the directors if you could like you have the right to any information, you can't demand information your not privy to. (As someone said KAREN)
They're not behind schedule because there is no schedule. None of the best devs I know of, release on a regular interval. They just work on it until it's up to high standards and release when they're done, often giving small regular progress updates to placate their fans. Before you complain about how fast you get updates, also consider how much you get each time.
There are vague progress updates and even sneak peaks if you'd like, they are just not here. They are on Patreon, Subscribestar and Discord; you see all these big banners up there? It's common practice to separate small progress updates and big releases to avoid unwanted inbox spam.
You don't have to pay anything if you don't want to but I think you're jumping to conclusions way too fast here.
Looks like a civil war broke out in the comments. I'm trying to summarize your all your points now and respond to them. If you still disagree afterwards, so be it.
1. "The dev is behind schedule"
This project works on a "when it's done" basis
2. "We should financially incentivize the dev to establish a schedule"
Noone likes to wait, but all updates so far have ben excellent and plentiful. Why change a working system? The dev is putting out awesome stuff right now, punishing him now would be really inconsiderate.
3. "The dev is working slowly if you do the math"
I completely disagree. If you just take playtime divided by devtime, there are surely faster devs out there. But I'd argue that these playtime hours have a lot of awesome in them. Just comparing the numbers and not the quality isn't fair.
4. "Patreon is really expensive if you sum up the total spending on the project!"
Correct. 5$ per month reaches AAA prices in one year. If you want to optimize your finances, Patreon is not for you. If you just want to pay a one time amount, you can do that! Get Patreon for a month, any amount, and cancel in time. The dev guaranteed that Eternum will be free forever.
5. "Why are there no dev updates here?"
Dev updates are on Patreon, Subscribestar and Discord. Dev updates on Itch would annoy those who just want release notifications.
The dev could put the progress banner on his project page. By not doing it, he encourages people to get deeper into the community and I don't blame him. Just click on the Subscribestar banner an there it is.
6. "The dev doesn't care about his fans, otherwise he'd communicate more!"
Actually, he is quite active in the comments. And he's active on the aforementioned platforms as well.
I still disagree. Here is my response:
1. "The dev is behind schedule" This project works on a "when it's done" basis
My Counter point: The pre-established pattern I can see above begs to differ! I see that the most recent update occurred 6 months after the one before that. He can say ‘when its ready’ all he like and I can say ‘Not good enough’ just as much. My purpose here is too push him! Make him understand he can do better, BE BETTER! Because everyone can always be BETTER!! If he gets it doen in 6 months, Ill push him to do it in 5. If he gets it done in 5, Ill push him to do it in 4!!!
Why are you so content with his performance when he did better in the last release?
2. "We should financially incentivize the dev to establish a schedule" Noone likes to wait, but all updates so far have ben excellent and plentiful. Why change a working system? The dev is putting out awesome stuff right now, punishing him now would be really inconsiderate.
My Counter point: Clearly the current system is not working as well as it could consider there is clearly a delay and no communication to explain why. Punishing him is not inconsiderate at all. Its actually entirely appropriate considering he is failing to perform to my expectations.
3. "The dev is working slowly if you do the math" I completely disagree. If you just take playtime divided by devtime, there are surely faster devs out there. But I'd argue that these playtime hours have a lot of awesome in them. Just comparing the numbers and not the quality isn't fair.
My Counter point: Actually its completely fair when you factor in individual tastes. I love the story too but in the end its just a story. There is no real game play element to it, only relationship points used to determine if the player sees a lewd scene or not. There's very little actual choice in the story. It's not all that complicated of a story either, in fact parts of it are copied from other stories such as ‘Ready Player One’.
Now if I compare it to Baldur’s Gate 3, Starfield or Rogue Trader… Which are all real games rather than just Visual Novels… See what I'm getting at?
So its not ‘awesome’. Just good… and now I question even that given the slow rate of production.
4. "Patreon is really expensive if you sum up the total spending on the project!" Correct. 5$ per month reaches AAA prices in one year. If you want to optimize your finances, Patreon is not for you. If you just want to pay a one time amount, you can do that! Get Patreon for a month, any amount, and cancel in time. The dev guaranteed that Eternum will be free forever.
My Counter point: I have in fact given Caribdis a small, one time, contribution. Through Itch, because I refuse to use Patreon. Now I wish I hadn't even done that.
5. "Why are there no dev updates here?" Dev updates are on Patreon, Subscribestar and Discord. Dev updates on Itch would annoy those who just want release notifications.
The dev could put the progress banner on his project page. By not doing it, he encourages people to get deeper into the community and I don't blame him. Just click on the Subscribestar banner an there it is.
My Counter point: No, I refuse to use Subscribestar, I refuse to use Patreon. I refuse to join his Discord. I want to be updated on Itch. All it would take is a simple message, once a month, to report progress. Also all I want is a Release Notification too… on a timely, predictable rate. When that doesn’t happen I expect a report on why and how long it is estimated to take.
6. "The dev doesn't care about his fans, otherwise he'd communicate more!" Actually, he is quite active in the comments. And he's active on the aforementioned platforms as well.
My Counter point: I do not and/or will not use any of the aforementioned platforms. He has not responded to any of my posts in the last few hours. Actually I just checked and it has been about 24 hours with no comment from Caribdis.
He has just over a week until the six month anniversary of his last release, which is usually preceded by a 1 month pre-release message. All of this leads me to believe he is at least 1 month behind the pre-established pattern. This demonstrates he doesn’t give a damn about me and since I have been a fan up to this point I believe I am justified in my statement.
Okay, let's disagree then. I still have a lot to say but this thread is too long already, so let's put this to rest. If you find an AVN dev that does meet your expectations, do tell me because they must be absolutely insane. I'm serious, do tell me. :)
Anyway, let's see what the next update brings. Maybe the wait was worth it, maybe it wasn't. We can't judge until we have complete information.