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I mean, so far on that front I’d place it in the upper quarter of FVNs I keep up with. Like, below Sileo but above Temptation’s Ballad, I guess.

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I haven't played either of those in a long time, but I mean... as of when I last played them... Sileo certainly has some plot threads that are largely about sexual encounters, but not in a pornographic manner. Temptation's Ballad had exactly one mention of an actual sexual encounter by the time I stopped playing. Maybe it ramped up though, I have no idea.

So like... yeah, if you're including either of those with mere mentions of sexual activity as pornographic, I guess this is high on the scale? But I wouldn't consider either of them to be. Basically, our scales of what porn is seem to be sufficiently differently defined that something like Chord Progressions would be at the top of yours and the bottom of mine...

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Blud, what are you waffling about? A majority of Sileo is porn scenes and their setup. The worldbuilding itself is the way it is because it’s a gay furry romance story where everyone is gay. Sex scenes are literally major plot points in most arcs!

By contrast Temptation’s Ballad also has a LOT of “porn leaning” elements, but the story itself doesn’t revolve around that. Not that it has no influence on the plot or relevance to some themes, but it’s not nearly as core to the story as it is in Sileo. I’d say it’s mostly like an ever present aesthetic choice.

But like, Temptation’s Ballad IS still very sexual? Cole’s promiscuity (and half the supporting cast’s tbh), the mercenary company, the multiple sex scenes? It’s not just “mere mentions of sexual activity”, what are you talking about? Half the cast can barely keep it in their pant half the time, and that’s if they even wear those!

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Either they were vastly reworked since I last played or you are just straight trolling. Given I literally fucking said I haven't played them in a while and that could be a possibility, and I also never once changed my opinion, yet you said I'm "waffling," gonna assume it's the latter and block you.

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I agree the conversation is off track from where it started. Please keep the comments civil, everyone!