Did you unzip the game? I had the exact same problem as you, and it turns out I was playing the game zipped, hence why the save files couldn't be properly created and stored in the game folder. If not, the directory could also be in a "protected" folder, where new files cannot be created. You should read this ask, as Arcade goes over some more reasons this could be happening.
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Thank you so much for the response! <3 I do wanna elaborate, though.
I didn't strikethrough that part because I didn't wanna make you feel bad or anything, I genuinely changed my mind on it. Even if I do still have a sort of longing for the pre-reset Wonderland times (as traumatic as they may have been), that is merely just my bias, and I have honestly grown to love the ending. It honestly works really well both narratively and in-universe. Wonderland, while it might have provided them some level of comfort, was also the bane of their existence. It caused them to rely on wishing and self-indulgence too much rather than actually working through their problems. So to have it be destroyed at the end, by the very people it once nurtured, and consequentially create a new timeline where they're more responsive feels like a beautiful way to wrap this whole thing up. I appreciate your insights by the way! I didn't even realize the tomato thing but that is so perfect, and the rabbits being a stand-in Orlam's family is... <:( (my poor baby boy...). I actually think the reason I was so caught up in it all was because of, again, just the fact of the game ending. The reset kinda highlighted that in a way by changing everything in a completely irreversible way.
So yeah, even if the edning was unexpected and kinda blindsided me, I don't think it was bad at all! But I do agree that even if I disliked it, or if anyone else did, that would be just a natural part of creating. You can't please everyone, and it's honestly best to just do what you feel is right for your story. And besides, I know most people say that a bad ending can ruin even the best stories, but tbh I don't think anything could ruin Our Wonderland for me. The rest of the game is just so amazing that the ending could be a blank screen and I'd simply accept it.
It is interesting to hear that Our Cinderella was always planned to be canon, though. I guess I'll have to be on the lookout for any more "non-canon" side-games that might just weasel their way into the canon timeline...
[Arc 5 finale spoilers!]
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So first of all, the execution was amazing. I praised how the Orlam and Genzou scene was done in the previous part, and I can say that pretty much the entire game after they left the cabin had the exact same quality. It felt like it was actually my life, like I was the one going through it all. It brought me to tears and heartbreak multiple times. The art, soundtrack, and writing were superb, as usual. I can really tell Carrot improved so much with their art and put so much love and care into, I feel like I could just stare at and admire all of the CGs. They're all so special and beautiful, and that's not even to mention the animated cutscenes. The cinematography was simply top-notch, the way Carrot combined their art with the music and brought the scenes to life made this all the more special. I cannot imagine how much effort it must've taken to get it all so perfect. And the way Carrot was able to combine both more lighthearted scenes towards the start and then slowly biuld up to the climax, it really kept me on the edge of my seat and really captured my heart. And towards the end, the way it was all wrapping up and having them "leave Wonderland behind"... I was simply overcome.
I loved all the routes, they were all unique and beautiful. The way they so perfectly captured Iggy's dynamics with each of the LIs and reflected on them is so poignant. And the mixture of angst, pining, hurt/comfort and the relief of finally admitting their feeling to eavh other was flawless. Also, all of the morning after scenes are hilarious. Carrot, I swear, I don't know how you managed to write a horror masterpiece and still stick in comedic moments that are not only funny but don't feel out of place at all.
I think the way Bucks' character was unveiled was so beautiful and visceral. It was so simple, yet it explained so much, and it made me really love her and Hunar's relationship. And the choice to have it all unravel at the very end strengthened it all. For the entire game, Bucks' detachment from the group was downplayed, chalked up to her being younger and in a relationship. But when they finally show how they treated her, what caused her to feel so ostracized, not only did the player realize the truth of it all, but the characters did too. It wasn't put off until the end because it wasn't relevant enough to adress earlier, it was because the characters themselves didn't adress it yet. And I think that's a really clever way to have done it all.
The section with the tree... I barely even have words. It was so visceral, so captivating, so... intense. It truly felt like the "final boss" of it all. And the added scare factor with Saydie really brought it all together.
The ending is... still messing me up. I just finished getting all the routes and I loved how each of them played out, but I want to talk more about the actual prospect of the ending itself. In all honesty, I didn't really know what to expect. I mean, I knew they'd come out of Wonderland in mostly one piece, but I didn't envision it would involve an entire timeline reset. And... that's the part I'm still coming to terms with. On one hand, it makes sense narratively. A big theme in the game is, obviously, time-looping. Having to go back to the same start, trying different things each time, and trying to untangle the mysterious web of not only your issues, but your friends' while you're at it. So having the ending go back in time to where this all began, give everyone one more chance, feels fitting. Especially with them having to defeat the tree, having to break free from the one thing holding them back... But on the other hand, I can't help but feel conflicted about it all. It might just be the very fact that the game is ending, but I think it's something else too. Having everything reset after the characters went through so much feels... weird. It's not like it was a complete reset, there's still obviously the remnants of the previous timeline guiding them in a better direction, but it's still a reset. Iggy even says in Gidget's route "it's not too late", but with their salvation sending them back in time, it's kind of saying that it was too late. That the characters were already beyond saving, and the only way to fix this mess would be to go back to where it all began. I feel like a big part of the game was the notion that these characters might be fucked up beyond all reason, that they might've done unforgivable things, but they're still human. And all they could really do was just move past it and try to do better. But then they had all their actions just erased. And... I don't know. Okay, you can disregard pretty much everything I said there. I thought about it a bit more and also read Carrot's ask about the whole thing and I can confidently say that the ending has grown on me. There was a bit of a misunderstanding on my part on how the whole thing happened + just generally being fucked up from the fact that the game was over so I apologize. Anyways, I loved the ending. All the epilogues were just precious and adorable??? Happy Bunar, cute high school Genzy, a thriving Orlam, and a Gidget/Iggy/Cecil/Orlam polycule (I'm still not over that GIDGET REALLY JUST KISSED EVERYONE. THAT'S INSANESAADOHDSHSJ???). I could go on and on about all the little moments but I think I'll stop here. (I do still wanna know, though, was Our Cinderella always planned to be canon, or did you decide to add it in because it lined up? Would the ending be different if you hadn't made it?)
All in all, Carrot, I cannot thank you enough for making Our Wonderland. For sticking by it. For putting your soul into it and giving everyone such an amazing experience for free. You have made one of the most amazing visual novels of all time, and you should feel nothing but proud of yourself for such an accomplishment. I hope everything goes well for you, and wish you nothing but the utmost luck on your next projects. Please, take care!
AAAAAAAAH CARROT! I'm so glad development is going well for you! Every day I look forward to the ending and seeing all the little sneak-peeks is making me so giddy. I must say, though, it is a weird feeling knowing the game is gonna end. The game that brought me so much joy, comfort, motivation, new friendships, and just... impacted me so much. I've only been following this game for around 6 months (which is actually quite a long time now that I think about it LOL), but this game has left a permanent mark on my heart, and knowing that one day it's gonna come to a close and not have any more new content released and it's just gonna be sitting there on my laptop for me to replay for the rest of time and I won't have any more new content to look forward to is... GUH. It's doing things to my heart.
OKAY, LET'S NOT GET TOO NEGATIVE HERE. I'm really excited for all the stuff you have planned. Especially The Choice™. I think the way you implemented it is really interesting and my heart is already pumping thinking about all the different potential scenes and epilogues! I'm definitely gonna (try and) get all of them 'cause I just love all these characters to bits and want to see every little thing this game has to offer. I just hope I don't have to replay too much (if at all). NOT THAT I DON'T LIKE REPLAYING THE GAME. I just don't wanna struggle with figuring out what options go towards what character and how many of them I will have to get. Buuut that's a problem for future me.
Also I really just wanna say please do not feel bad about your anxiety and not being able to work some days??? I understand that sometimes you can't help it (I feel this way too sometimes) but like, you're releasing this (masterpiece of a) game for free. You don't owe us anything. You're doing this all on your own accord, without even asking for anything back. So please don't feel pressured to push yourself past your limits to finish the game or anything, especially if it comes at the cost of your health. ALSO, YOU LITERALLY MADE THIS GAME??? One of the best visual novels I have ever played??? AND YOU DID ALL (well except the music and stuff) OF IT BY YOURSELF??? Not to sound like I'm trying to butter you up or anything, but if I were you, I'd be bragging! It genuinely takes someone with a lot of passion, creativity, dedication, and most of all love and care for their work to make something as beautiful and expansive as this, all without even asking for a single penny. I admire you, Carrot, you're honestly one of my biggest inspirations to be a gamedev. And I hope you know that. I hope you know how much I, and many others, love Our Wonderland and appreciate you for making it. Please, never forget that.
...Sorry, that got really sappy. One last thing though! I've always found it kinda funny how many people thought Iggy was canonically autistic when it wasn't ever intended, but I am glad that has led you to discover more about yourself! I myself have had similar suspicions, and there were plenty of times where Iggy would do something specific that would make me think 1) "Wow, he's just like me."; 2) "Wow, that sounds like an autism symptom."; 3) All of the above. About the diagnosis part, though, I completely undestand. It can be very hard to get diagnosed for a variety of reasons, so I just wanna tell you to please not be yourself up over it! It can be really scary, so, take your time, and just do what feels right for you.
That's all I wanted to say! Have a good rest of your day, Carrot. And please remember to drink water and take breaks!
[Spoilers + rambling ahead!!!]
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THIS WAS SOOOO AMAZING!!! I absolutely loved it! Nearly all the other side games have them suffering in some way, shape, or form so this was a very nice change of pace.
The art was wonderful as usual! It must've talked a while considering just how many sprites and background and mini CGs you must've drawn, and I really commend that.
The music was also very nice aisjshsj definitely a shojo vibe. xD The menu theme kinda took me out at first but in the best way possible, like "wow Carrot really went all out on this"!
The gameplay was also great, the stat management provided a challenge which kept me engaged, but it wasn't too difficult and I managed to get all the endings without messing up (though there were a few times where Iggy would just stay in bed for like 3 days straight which would cause me to panic a bit). I actually wonder what happens if you don't meet a requirement before the party? Does Iggy just not go? Game over? Hmm I'll have to test that later, and also test what happens if you don't text anyone at all (I am a madlad).
BUT OF COURSE, THE REAL MEAT OF IT ALL — THE STORY!!! Oh my gosh, I loved it. All the different routes were uniquely wonderful and I enjoyed all of them immensely ajsusbjs. Though surprisingly I feel like Gidget's might've been my favorite? Genzy is my favorite ship, and Orlam is my favorite character, so I didn't expect to like their route that much more, but tbh I liked how kinda chill it was! It was a nice breather after dealing with Genzou's shart jokes and Orlam's... escapades (don't get me wrong, I enjoyed both of those as well but holy shit did they make my brain feel like it was melting at times). WELL, CHILL EXCEPT FOR THE TIMOTHY OLEPHANT INTERMISSION, GIDGET WHAT THE FUCK–
Anyways, uh, I felt like compiling a "small" list of all my favorite moments from the chats:
- Genzou's mom!!! Gosh that whole entire chat with them was sooo cute from the Treenzou to Genzou's mom taking his phone to the PICTURES AWWWWWWW... Idk it was just so sweet seeing Genzou be so soft and pleasant around his mom compared to how he usually is, I loved it. Also if you saw my ask about her, no you didn't.
- THE FUCKING MBTI MENTION HOLY SHIT THAT TOOK ME OUT??? It was probably nothing to most people but to a certified typology nerd like me that felt like them acknowledging some kind of holy texts. But uhh anyways yeah that was, something. I'm not gonna go deep into it since again, I'm a typology nerd so you will most likely not understand anything I'm saying, but it was quite a nice surprise. :3
- Genzou "mistyping" an emoji/emoticon for the second time... Genzou c'mon man.
- Honestly most of Orlam's messages were entertaining to me in some way. Maybe it's because I'm in love with him or maybe it's because they were the most unhinged. Who knows. Probably both.
- Orlam eating his Switch???
- "HEY, PERVY MCPERVDOG."
- ORLAM REFERENCING EVANGELION...
- JERRY BEING REAL??? I know this game is non-canon and all but the thought of human!Jerry being coworkers with Orlam is so amusing to me.
- Also the chat with Archibald II, it was sooo cute!!! I especially liked when he became so distraught that he went onto AO3. I appreciate his dedication, I mean, it is very hard to use a glossy screen with fluffy paws. I wonder what fandoms he's in?
- Also also I somehow didn't get a single anxious day while playing Orlam's route??? In fact I think his arc went the best for me as I managed to get way more chats in before the party. Maybe it was just a blessing from him for helping him get on the sexyman wiki LOL.
- The aforementioned Timothy Olephant intermission. Gidget's chats have been so calm up to that point that the sudden craziness threw me for a total loop. ALSO. DID YOU TAKE THE REACTION PIC I SENT YOU FROM THAT ONE ASK??? AJSJSBJSJSJS I feel like I'm making that out to be a way bigger deal than it should be, but I don't know, it felt kinda pleasantly surprising to see it there (though I am a bit worried, considering the drawing isn't mine and I don't know who it belongs to, you might have to find the artist and put them in the credits... PLEASE DON'T HAVE A PANIC ATTACK OVER THIS CARROT I'M SURE IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL I KNOW HOW YOU ARE AIAJSJJSJS but still I think it's worth looking into). I guess I can't really judge Gidget that hard though, because this is probably how I sound like talking about Orlam, though usually I hold back a bit because I don't wanna annoy people/get judged for my strange tastes. 💦
- Also that one convo with Gidget about Iggy's height made me think the LIs have a secret group chat where they all gush about Iggy. I highly doubt this is true considering Genzou and Orlam would probably still find a way to argue and ruin everything, but the thought is highly amusing.
- Also I loved how wholesome Gidget's family was??? I know you said this is a non-canon timeline where no less bad stuff happens but seeing them be so freely accepted by their parents was nice. All the shenanigans with Gertie were especially amusing sjsisbsjwn.
- IGGY BEING A FANFIC WRITER. Please that event was hilarious jaisjsjsnekenjw it took me so out! But it was also very cute and kinda relatable. xD
- And speaking of Iggy, tbh I already kinned him hard before this game but I think this game just solidified that even more. There were so, so many moments that I found relatable that I'm not even gonna bother trying to list them. ToT
Anyways all of this is to say I enjoyed the shenanigans a lot!!! In fact I may or may not be replaying the game right now just to see all the possible chats and stuff.
Oh, and I wanted to ask about this even pre-release but was holding back in case you'd remove it or something...
Is that a code? Like, a code you can input somewhere in the game to get... I don't know unlimited money and social battery or something. Or is it just some random text? I tried inputting it in a bunch of places but none of them did anything.
Anyways I think that's all I wanted to say SORRY FOR WRITING SUCH A LONG COMMENT!!! It was either this or spamming your askbox and I figured just dumping all my thoughts in a comment would be better. Also helps promote the game! Though I will still probably remember/stumble upon something else during my replays and inevitably spam your ask box anyways. I apologize in advance. 💦
To wrap this all up I just wanna say thank you for making this game! And making stuff in general. OW and all its side games and everything have been a huge comfort for me and I can't possibly thank you enough for providing me with that!!! Bye bye for now, Carrot, please take care of yourself! <3
Good luck, Carrot! I'm already very excited for the game, I'm sure it's gonna be great as always. ^^
Also, I think that's the first time you've shared that text with Gidget. 👀 Them and Gertie look so sweet together, I love how wholesome they are, unlike a certain other pair of siblings. Cough cough.
Anyways, take care! Please, don't overwork yourself. :3
Wow. This was a very interesting experience.
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I am a big fan of OW (as you may already know), and naturally, I got curious about this game as well, so I decided to play it. And I don't regret my decision at all! (Well, okay, maybe just a little...)
The game was very enjoyable. It felt quite different from OW (mainly because it's an RPG and not a VN lol), but there was still a lot of that Signature Carrot Style™ in it. It was... much darker too. Like, OW is dark, don't get me wrong, and I knew this game would be too, but...!?!?!? I just... I did not expect it to take some of the directions it did. 💦 I will admit, though, it is a bit rough around the edges, especially in the story department. But that is to be expected, considering the game is half a decade old. I still really liked it, though! I found the symbolism and game mechanics to be quite creative, and I'm very glad this gave you enough experience to eventually make OW! You've definitely improved a lot. :3
Also, I really liked Markiplier Nester, he's gotta be my favorite. He strikes me as the gentle giant type. I know that sounds a bit odd, considering he literally tried to kill his brother, but... just hear me out, okay? He doesn't actually go through with it, and from the dialogue he has with Easter afterwards, it's clear he's trying his best to move on and become a better person. I respect that a lot and feel very bad for him... Also, you didn't hear this from me, but he's pretty cute... He looks like he would give great cuddles, but who's to say, really?... Well, unless, y'know, he'd be willing to let me verify... AHEM AHEM! Yikes, I can't believe I just wrote that, what has gotten into me? This is like Orlam all over again... Agh, Carrot, you need to stop making your characters so loveable! My heart can only take so much!!!
Anyways, yeah, I quite enjoyed this little bundle of horror! It was very cool to see where you started from, and how much you've improved. And that's pretty much all I've got to say, so, bye, Carrot! Hope you have a good day. :3
Hi! I just wanna say I really liked the first two chapters, but I'm having a bit of a problem with the game. It just gets... really laggy after a while. I don't think it's anything on my part, 'cause all of your other games play just fine, and the problem goes away for a bit when I close the game and open it again. Do you know why this could be happening?