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Whelp, things keep getting more tense.

A topic by tanishabuchholz created Feb 24, 2024 Views: 414 Replies: 7
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Oh man, I finished chapter 4 in like an hour. And now we have more questions, even less answers, and rapidly losing trust in this whole situation. 

I trust Ran (which might come back to bite me), and strangely enough I want to trust Leonea. And Elos, but Mr. Fisher has ruined trusting grandpas. It's hard to take anyone at face value anymore, more so with the events that played out in this chapter.

Ran was ready to burn the world down, and I was loving it. Also, loving the witch calling us out on our love interests, hehe.

And loving the little tidbits of stuff from the other Demonheart games, like the undead Unicorn! Now I'm going to go replay all the chapters again while I eagerly await for chapter 5. ๐Ÿ˜†โค

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I have a feeling Ran is going to go cuckoo for cocoa puffs on us very soon ๐Ÿซ  ... I'm being a horrible player and I'm seeing how far I can break him and Kaisar, hehehe. In your playthrough, are you stringing along both of them, or just going for Ran?

Haha, I about died cackling during the undead unicorn and the "mythic" re-telling of Bright's adventures. The unicorn was only in the NWN modules, right? (I haven't played the modules for a very long time, but I remember distinctly being very betrayed when that thing appeared, ha...) Raze being very annoyed at the re-telling was a cherry on top for that scene.

Do you have any theories on the bottles? I'm so confused on who is poisoning people... my gut is saying Kaisar is the person we've been tracking, but no clue really... (๐Ÿ’• Thanks so much Lamb, loving this story and all the crazy intrigue - I was glued to my screen!!! ๐Ÿ’•)

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I'm going for Ran this playthough, thou I'm not trying to be mean to Kaisar, just sort of...neutral. Definetly not trying to string him along. And yes, the unicorn was in the NWN modules. I played the first Demonheart, then kind of delved into what had already been created, and discovered the NWN modules.

Yeah, I felt betrayed as well. Can't take anything at face value, lol. As for who is poisoning who...Hrm, I sort of went back to a earlier save and picked the two other different choices at a certain point, just to see what would happen. While it does seem to shed a slightly more light on the mystery, in the end it just add more questions.

Lamb is doing such a stupendous job with this story. Each chapter left me gripping the edge of my seat as to what might come next.

Edit: After thinking it over in my sleep, I leaning towards Janiya the witch for the one poisioning people. She's the more logical suspect for that. She has mentioned that she knows alot about plants and herbs and can pick them without getting herself hurt. Though Elos did mention about the cursed liquid in the trees...

Oh, sorry, didn't mean to assume you were stringing poor Ran along, ha...! Are you going to do a Kaiser play through as well? (I'm curious what type of voices we'll get for the both of them for the final game!)

What type of character are you playing? (Saint, Snake, etc.?) I love that Lamb lets players be more gray/evil in our choices... hopefully we can make some interesting choices in later chapters...

Oooh, can you tell me what day it was that you went back to in your earlier save? I'd like to give it a shot.

Yeah, Elos was going to be my pick for poisoning (I agree with you - maybe working with Janiya? They seem like they have been in league this whole time...) because he was the one encouraging us to go eat breakfast and seems pretty obsessed with that bloody tree. ๐Ÿ’€

Some spoilers ahead, maybe...

Hmm, I may do a Kaiser playthough at some point in time. He's taken a bit to grow on me, heh. Also, no worries about the Ran thing.

Character wise, I'll admit, I'm playing the Good/Tactiful architype, but I do like that we have options to be gray/neutral/evil architypes.

I believe it was Day 3 that I tried a different branch in my save (I usually don't do that, but someone mentioned on another post how some more information comes to light and my curiosity wouldn't leave me alone.)

I don't know if you've played Demonhart: Ice Demon yet, but there were one or two things that came to light about Esmius (and Demonspawns as a whole)., and I'm wondering if things from there are playing out in the Cursed Trial. Also, I'm curious about the timeline, too. Obviously, the Cursed Trial takes place after the first Demonheart (but how many years apart is it?) and also well after Ice Demon. Timeline wise, Ice Demon is first, followed by Demonheart (Raze), and then Cursed Trial, at least from what I've seen.

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Yeah, ha. I didn't think I'd be as excited for Kaiser, but he's kind of cute in a creepy way...

Nice, thank you for the hints! I'll try a replay soon from Day 3 and see if I can find it! (Unless it is one of the "end game" choices near the end of Day 3?)

Yes, I did play Ice Demon when it came out, but --- I'll be honest, I remember enjoying it, but I'm blanking on any relevant lore. Time for another replay there too! That's the timeline I was aware of too... must be a few centuries between this story and Bright's story though? I'm wondering how Raze got himself in this mess with Esmius. (Probably should play Ice Demon again ASAP and see if any clues...)


Edit: ........ALSO -- how does the MC know the RFA......? They hint multiple times that they know us before we are shot... gahhhh.

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Fun fact: In my original 1st playthrough, I didn't tell Ran about what Kaiser did at the beginning of Chapter 4. In the one that I sort of did out of curiosity, I did tell Ran and oh my gosh, it changed the entire mood for the rest of the chapter after the water bottle scene. Lamb put a -lot- of thought into your choices and consequences of those choices. 

As for the choice that sort of gave out a little more information, it's...somewhat near the end or Day 3, I believe.

I'm not sure if the MC knowing the RFA is real or not. She was kind of having a somewhat "fever dream" I think, and I'm not sure we can take it at face value. But! Maybe I'll be proven wrong~

Well, Raze did mention something about a prize and he seems pretty intent of getting it back. I wonder if Esmius managed to steal something that Raze holds dear to himself.

Funny enough, I haven't actually played Esmius route in Ice Demon yet, haha! I've only played through Sirath's route. (Which I totally fell in love with him, not gonna lie)

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Oh my god, yes... Ran is a veerrrrry protective guard dog.  After that choice, where did you choose to stay the night? (Enjoy some angst with certain options if you made the previous choice, I actually felt bad...) It's much more fake happy-go-lucky if you try to balance both of them, but I can't wait to see it crash down eventually, even if it's my MC's own fault, ha. Janiya isn't wrong there I think. I really want to see how far we can push both of them, heh.

Aaah, thanks - I think I got you on the Chapter 3 choice. I definitely "chose poorly" my first run just because my MC was sick of the pressure, so she did some drastic things...

Oh, I will not anything spoilery if you haven't played Esmius's route! (You have good taste - Sirath is much superior, I agree! He's such a cutie character.)

I just did a re-play this weekend, so I'm fresh on the lore (but - I haven't played Nissa's route ever, so hopefully I'm not missing too much, she was a little too crazy for me ๐Ÿ‘€).  I was trying to summarize what new powers we found out about the demons/demonspawn...? More information on how the gems work/what infernal creatures can do through them, Eniri's strategy for acquiring flesh (even though I thought we'd seen this scenario in the modules at one time or another?), we found out ice demons are a thing, some more moral characters could be alive that might impact outcome (eehhh, probably a stretch...?), more on magic types available (Shar's light magic, divination, etc...)

I'm just trying to rack my brain on what the prize could be?  Esmius could do a "service" for Raze, but I'm trying to figure if Raze has anyone important left and I don't think he'd want to interact with Esmius going forward....? I don't really know Raze's motivation anymore.  Bright is dead in this timeline or wasn't romantically involved with Raze anyway. He's seems disinterested in most things, except his cats (doesn't seem to want a new human to follow?)... could it be Bright's necklace? Just so he has a back-up if he wants a new human "pet" later? But, I don't think it's that important. The necklace wasn't created for this Raze anyway and he could theoretically use any compatible jewelry in the future if he wanted a human "pet" again.  (I did notice that Janiya has a similar necklace to Bright... not sure what gems qualify - couldn't Raze speak with her privately if so inclined...?) I feel like I need to get out a tin hat at this point...