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Have you ever worked on a game for a long time...

A topic by X2Sたr created Mar 07, 2020 Views: 866 Replies: 12
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Only for it to be deleted and no trace can be retrieved meaning you have to start from scratch.

I have, And let me tell you. It sucks -_-

Yeah, I have, not even games but many different things throughout in my life altogether, but I did not try to retrieve that back.

If to think about it, what use is there for something to exist, if there is no will to actually employ that thing for the sake of sustenance?

Y'know what is the fate of toys. They are put back in the sack.

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Welcome to life! lol. Where you can work your whole life for something, only to have it taken away.

Agreed LOL

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the question now is have you worked 15 hours on one then deleted it all on accidentally deleted it and was forced too name it nothing? 

I was using Unity to make a free roam game in a city. I worked on it for 3 to 4 days but deleted it because I wasn't able to use coding on unity with mono developer.

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I know the feeling.

I spent well over a hundred hours working on an adventure game from 2005-2009 or so, once only to scrap it at 80+% done because the engine I was building it with [Adventure Maker] was discontinued and would not support any future Windows OSs. That project - "Traveler's Enigma' died for good some time around 2010. I also launched a game for Android designed by my dad - he coded it, I did the graphics. It never made a single penny, after well over a hundred hours of labor from each of us. Ended up being rejected by Apple for iOS and made freeware for Android... and the CafePress shop connected to that never sold anything at all either. That was a giant misfire and it ended up quietly ignored by most everyone, on GalileeGames.com. I think the biggest screwup was the core concept - my dad, despite my skepticism of faith in general and thinking religion is stupid, he wanted to make a Christian themed game and apparently had no clue Apple would ban it for that reason. [Regardless of the reason they said they rejected it, which was jaw-droppingly vague, I suspect it was rejected due to its overt religious content. ]

There are two other indie games - "Isola" and "Vivid Minigolf" that likewise will be rebuilt/reworked code-wise entirely from scratch because the engine I'd used or tried to use initially was way too limited (GameSalad) so now I'm going to redo them in Unity and Construct 2 respectively. 

Also made a little Myst fangame in 2004 with Adventure Maker and am now remaking it in Unity... along with a Unity remake of a project called 'Panoramic Worlds' which was initially built in a panoramic virtual-tour app plus some overlaid code. 

So basically, off and on, I have built, to various stages of completion, close to a dozen abandoned / failed games in poorly-selected game engines. Thousands of hours poured into things that have never seen the light of day, and that's just the games. I have lost a bit of video content as well, in a few cases, and while most of it remains intact, it is STILL unlikely to ever end up online for the most part. Why? Legal issues. I have a scattered list of cast members wo've never signed talent release forms and in failing to do so ensured the video projects they acted in cannot be posted on the web without a risk of lawsuits. 

It drives me crazy - I have been shooting comedies, action flicks, sci-fi shorts, etc, for two decades as a hobby and 90% of that is still NOT ONLINE. Maybe never will be. I put $5000-6000 into those, there's maybe 7 hours of video stuff there in all with 2000ish VFX shots combined. 10k hours worked doing the entire crew thing on my own - I wrote, directed, edited, did VFX and set design, makeup, props, etc, on several dozen self-financed video projects over 20 years... Generally that material is only accessible if I show it to you in person - it has mostly never gotten released on the internet. I am considering throwing a lot of it up despite the legal risk, maybe posting it in a giant zip file on a torrent site or similar. Would never make a cent, but at least then people can see it?

Thankfully, as far as gamedev goes, I now have a really decent setup with Construct 2 [for 2d] and Unity+Playmaker [3d] and most of the graphics and audio assets from a litany of failed projects remain intact so I can go through it all and rebuild in better software. 

And I've learned to back everything up in the cloud. I use BackBlaze to do that and hopefully I won't lose my data any time soon even if a hard drive fails for no good reason as time passes, here and there. 

My next project - the one game I'm mostly focused on launching right now - is 'Miniature Multiverse' and I am sure it'll be out there on Itch and Steam before this year is over. I've got a lot of work done on that and it's a concept that has some people very intrigued by it. I also have released a bunch of stock media / asset packs I've made with 3d models, textures, video elements. All of my projects that are released or near the point of being released, on Itch specifically, are here:

matthornb.itch.io. - a ton of stock asset pack material is on sale the next 48hrs, for a bundle price of 95 cents. Would be nice if this sale resulted in a few actual sales, reviews/ratings, comments, something, anything. :/

I've got a ton I want to do. I would like to do gamedev and art stuff and reworking of video stuff for online launch, full time but need support to get it all there. 

I am not giving up but... I am wasting a good chunk of my time the last few years doing sub-minimum wage freelance and microtask stuff at around $3 an hour to keep everything afloat, while my own projects inch forward at a rate that's kinda glacial. Oh well...

Ouch. And I thought my situation was bad (5 or so months in development before my P/C decided to middle figure me with BSoD)

I wish you luck on your future projects, maybe one day they will turn a profit.

Have a nice day :)

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It's okay. 

I am stuck with a few mental illnesses [autism, clinical depression, OCD] and some tendencies to have occasional emotional flare-ups or meltdowns, which means when I have tried working a normal 'job' I lose it because regardless of my skill level, creative ability, and intelligence, which is pretty strong, I always fail to keep the work due to either emotional volatility 'incident' or bailing occasionally to avoid a public meltdown and not being at every group meeting/hour I should be there.

All of which has kept me out of the 'conventional' job market, and then after a while I went without a job and after that... prolonged unemployment was another red flag that meant nobody would ever hire me for any in-person thing again. Never mind that I have a college degree or a massive laundry list of art and technical skills, I can't people well and I get worn out in social settings, and am a weird introvert guy. So basically my emotional weaknesses have forced me to freelance online and it's not ideal sometimes but it still works better and more sustainably, than anything else I have tried. And now I am leveraging the low-wage freelancing to slowly cover the costs of building *product lines* on itch and elsewhere [Etsy, eBay, etc] - and the hope is some of these will slowly take off and I'll be able to build on the first mild successes and just sort of slingshot from there on forward until I'm able to stop the more tedious micro tasks [mTurk, etc] and do creative work full time.

People are freaking out over this coronavirus thing and reordering their lives enormously to deal with remote work, and it's weird for me because I've been doing gigs for people online for two decades at half of minimum wage or so, and in an odd way I'm pretty well positioned because as far as I can see this is a hard time for almost everyone but for me very little has changed. I am suddenly seen as semi-expert due to the fact that I have spent the last few years working from home and I've got an edge in that sense. Other people are jumping into eBay sales blind - I have 380+ positive ratings already as an eBay seller, selling mostly made-to-order artworks and my stock media collections on DVD, plus a few scattered used items or supplies once in a while... I have almost a dozen items already listed on Etsy and it would be more if I hadn't successfully sold five of them off [and gained my first two ratings there] in late 2019 *before* the coronavirus hit. The situation we face now is one that works well for introverts, we are able to handle it better than others and we can survive it with fewer issues, and some of what I am doing may be perfectly timed if I can make it work. Handmade art, not so much, but digital content... think about it, all the movie studios are suspending production, so is Netflix, live entertainment and sporting events, talk shows, everything in entertainment is rapidly shutting down except video games. And if I can get a game out and launch it well, this could turn out well, especially given that 'virtual tourism' is one of the categories of products expected to boom like crazy this year. And I think first-person exploration in adventure games like 'Miniature Multiverse' kinda fits that niche well. I can imagine Myst-likes, VR gaming, and open-world or first-person exploration-game anything, being a big thing in 2020 as well as social multiplayer gaming, it's a way to fill the desire for A) travel to interesting places and experience them and explore them, even if airports are not an option and B) experience social gatherings. 

Yeah, I have a long track record of misfires, hard work that turned out to be depressingly unsuccessful [financially, not creatively failed] projects, but the good news is I have a good family that is able to support me and cover the bills I can't pay. Their help is crucial; my dad was a scientist [geophysicist] with a few patents over the course of a nearly-30 year career and he has been successful, so I don't need to earn a lot to manage. My family will cover a few of the core costs of my life and I cover the rest, ie they have a house and I still live in it. They cover most of the essentials - the room/board and electricity, internet, and critical stuff like food/water. And I work so I can cover a range of discretionary stuff on top of that. [Software, project costs, etc] and they are okay with it as they know I am trying anything and everything that I can, and that I am working hard even if it doesn't result in much income, but ideally at some point I will hit on something that works out and I'll be able to suddenly pitch in more and not be a burden on them any more.

So, that living situation means I can handle a lot of failures, one after another, and still survive it. And maybe eventually the skills I've built will pay off somewhere even if the past projects I built them with didn't. I actually am fairly upbeat about my near future prospects; I'm sure I'm close to a breakthrough finally, even if only a modest one. 

And your problem with the BSOD - I am really sorry that happened to you. That sucks. I don't want to diminish your problems or the five month project you lost. I had to reinstall the Windows OS on a computer once from the command line. I copied a ton of file directories off C drive using BIOS and then wiped the internal drive and reinstalled Windows on it from scratch. That happened once. Other hard drive failures in past, one from a lightning strike in a big thunderstorm that emerged really fast, others during a move between states with family or just for no evident reason. They just stopped working or began having the 'click of death' but I've been fairly lucky and reasonably well prepared; most of my work over the years isn't lost even as the hard drives get replaced because of cloud backups and local backups which are definitely a priority for me.

And yes, some desktop PCs have failed but the software's always the internal-drive and the registration info for it is on the externals and my phone, and the project files all on external storage as well and in the cloud. So if/when a computer bites the dust I can scramble to get a new one and then reinstall and reset up my workflow on it and transfer all the hard drives to the new system. A delay, sure, but not catastrophic loss. I've learned to do all this the hard way, pretty early on I started figuring this out - redundancy and backups and contingency plans for hardware failures are crucial if you intend to protect your work!

I know it probably does not amount to much, but you've got at least one internet stranger rooting for you, buddy! 

That's like one of the saddest stories I've read in a long time... :(

Just a thought, but you can backup stuff on Google Drive. I also do all of my work on a Windows 7 computer, but have to compile it on my Windows 10 machine, so I get a backup that way too. But man, making copies of your digital life is essential. Go ahead and be a digital hoarder, space is cheap!

I feel unbelievably stupid right now. I could/should have done that -_-, however it can be a pain if I want to keep the backup up to date. Uploading and re-uploading would be just a pain. (I have to save my projects twice as frequently because my battery decided to commit suicide and my power seems to cut out pretty often -_- )  

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