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A jam submission

YesterSolView game page

Metroidvania PreAlpha Playtesting. A small hero with a magical spear.
Submitted by NeatGames (@neat_games) — 5 days, 23 hours before the deadline
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Results

CriteriaRankScore*Raw Score
Controls / UI#214.0004.000
Overall Fun#244.0004.000
Sound/Music#403.7143.714
Art / Graphics#423.8573.857

Ranked from 7 ratings. Score is adjusted from raw score by the median number of ratings per game in the jam.

If you have competed before, how has your game changed?
A ton has been added since last time. (New zones, new skills, new NPCs, new Bosses, etc.) I'm curious how is the exploration and progression. This is a metroidvania so you have to explore a 2D open world to progress. Any feedback or suggestions is greatly appreciated, especially if you enjoy games like Hollow Knight, Ori, Metroid, Castlevania, Animal Well, etc. I will continue to update the game before the gamejam ends, I want to add some more sounds, dialog, etc. Thanks for playing!! And I would love to see a YouTube video to study what is working well :D (I live in Korea so I can't watch Twitch Vods T_T)

Genre #1

Action

Shooter | Platformer | Slasher | Beat em Up | Base Defense | Survival | Racing

Puzzle

Mystery | Advenure

Rating #2

Family Friendly

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Developer

Thanks for playing everyone! I fixed a lot of bugs and applied a lot of your suggestions :D Thanks a bunch for the videos as well, I can improve it more!

Submitted

I played this till I got to the GloomShroom caverns, overall I think the game's pretty good. I don't have much commentary on the gameplay and enemies, they work well. I think the most negative thing was there was some kind of in game quests/story but I didn't understand it at all. For example I walked by a bag, didn't see it, but saw the message "This guy's bag...". I looked for the bag, then I expected to pick up the bag but could not, so I didn't know what to do. I debated even mentioning this, but I think the way text and graphics come in so quickly will give a bad impression, like the fast story at the beginning or the text like Key Fragment Found. You might look at the transitions and effects used in old console games to make it seem more professional. 

Jam Host (1 edit)

Welcome back. 

Hythrain's VOD 1:07:15 Yestersol in case you need to see it. 

(+2)

Hello, I am Cootadude, a Noob with EXP.

For this review, I am going to have my video, the timestamps with quick explanation of them, then my more detailed things left out of the video or more thoughts that came after the video.

Here is my video, because I'm going to be referencing it throughout the review:

Around 04:51 in the video, I encounter an interesting bug with controller (Xbox One): I would be jumping with every melee attack, but with keyboard this is not so.

I would also note that melee's only use is to gather money, I found it impractical in combat due to the reason that you have to be close to the enemy and such a risk barely pays off in damage output.

So naturally, I almost only used throw because it is ranged, and I found that the spear going back to you causes damage, it just seems better in every way.


Around 05:01 I encountered something "weird" with the controls (Xbox One), this may have been intentional? But I counted it as an error as it wasn't specified in the pause-menu controls.

Left bumper - throws

Right trigger - throws

While pause menu says only X throws.


Around 08:59, this may just be a visual error on my part, lol. But I first misread the R as a B due to the font. This is very minor and can be ignored, I would be cool either way.


Around 10:17, was it a sale as a discount? Or a sale as in "for sale". In the video, I misunderstood it due to this confusion.

Now this may also just be a "me problem". But I think it would be best to find a better way to word it.


Around 18:19, the "zap" things have been taught beforehand that they kill instantly during platforming, then in this boss it just injures, both are still "bad things" for the player to avoid as another danger.

But the issue pointed out here is that I was "scared" of jumping too high and touching a single line from the top, and seeing it go so low I did not know if it would kill me or not which in this timestamp causes me to not dodge the bosses attack, causing me to lose HP due to a misunderstanding.

Now yes, I did "touch" it without getting damaged, but at those times I was focused on jumping behind the boss and not dodging attacks, so I was not thinking about that part of the environment.


Around 19:24, the first transformation to "Seed-Mode" I could not jump. But the second and every other future one worked as intended. So only the first time was bugged.


Around both at 20:18 & 24:37, the visual effects block my view (in a bad way), the first one is minor, but the second I found to be more major. It is a very cool effect, but at least change the second one so I can outright see that I need seed-mode for that part of the map.


Now to my other thoughts:

The art-style reminds me of paper, and I like that. The animations were pretty good as well, but I would say the transition from jump to throw looked abrupt, I only noticed this during editing and not actual gameplay, showing how minor that is.

The platforming was smooth, yes, I had some hiccups but that is in every game. I liked that only the saw in the saw-traps injure and not what connects them to the platform.

The Key Shard Fragments are a cool touch, the only issue about such a thing is dissappointment when all are collected. But if you live up to the build up, there is no issue. The more work I would need to do to complete the key, the bigger the award needs to be.

The spike-platforms sound is just so good, nothing more I can say. lol

I was dissappointed at first with the starting enemies, because they wouldn't chase me when attacked or were even dangerous. But thinking it as a new player, I understand why. I found my style of fighting because of them, then when I did get to agressive and new enemies, that style was used and evolved due to the weaknesses exposed. So I was dissappointed at first, but later on appreciated it.

The first boss I encountered, it was a nice and simple boss, but it had its issues: What I already pointed out, but also that there wasn't enough visuals to show that I can throw my spear at the top part, though it did show enough that behind is the weakness and I did figure it out eventually. And I would suggest having a warning system for when the wall barriers will come back on, so I could move out of the way, knowing it is becoming damaging again.

When parkouring (maybe combat too) with the spear, I would really apprecite a system where I can "semi-aim" the spear so I won't need to time when to throw while jumping. But this could change too much to the mechanics, so depending on what direction you're going this would break or improve the game. I would be cool with either.

Final thought was when I found the man's backpack/package, my RPG-Side-Quest-Brain told me to go back and tell the man he can go now. Now I did get some more exploring in the Upper Reaches due to that which is cool, I still would have liked a more confirmation that I do not need to go back especially when I did not find them. lol


That is all my thoughts so far, overall pretty solid game, has a few issues but that is to expected to every early stage of any game. Rarely found any bugs. And the game was a joy to play, so you did win me over for the full release.

Developer(+1)

Thanks again, I watched the whole video and commented/subscribed on YouTube, always new bugs to fix haha.

(+2)

Link to VOD:

(live at 9pm EST tonight)

Honestly, I straight-up love this game. Immediately wishlisted it on Steam once I hit a stopping point, and I will be buying it when you're done. If this didn't say it was a pre-alpha build, I would have guessed it was at least beta, if not early access.

Everything is beautifully done; I love the art, the music is fitting and enjoyable, gameplay is really fun, and it's challenging without being frustrating.

I couldn't really get a solid feel on the story from what I played thus far, so perhaps introducing a bit more of the story to us early on would be helpful. Get an idea on Sol versus Luna, and the like. 

Would also be nice to have a healing station of some sort right before big boss fights. While I was able to manage it (eventually), there was a certain sense of frustration brewing at having to go so far back, and make it through a lot of hazards to reach the boss, with only six mishaps available to me. 

Regarding the boss fight I did do, the area where you can stand and try to strike the boss is very narrow. It was difficult to maneuver my character to be facing the boss, while simultaneously avoiding the whirling danger around it. A little bit more space to be able to maneuver would be appreciated just for ease of navigation.

Overall though the game is solid, and I really look forward to the full release!

Developer(+1)

Hey thanks a bunch for playing my game and the awesome comment :D I will definitely work on the story more, not many NPCs in game yet hehe, and I'll adjust the boss for sure.  I will check out your video after work!!

Jam Host(+1)

Hello! Welcome to Feedback Quest 7! My name's Hythrain and I'm one of the hosts and one of the streamers for this event! This feedback is being written live as I stream your game! If you're interested in seeing my live reaction, let me know and I can send you a link to the VOD once it's posted to YouTube!

So my normal approach for any game in these events is simple: I get the game, make sure it's not a virus, then play it with as little information on how to play as possible. This way, I can judge how intuitively someone can figure out the game. Only if it's obvious that I need to read more will I do so. I note this so you can get a sense where some of these feedback comes from. In addition, I want to note that feedback and rating are different; don't use this feedback to gauge what I'll rate, nor should you view my rating as entirely indicative of my feedback.

I'm a fan of Metroidvania games. I've been playing them for over 20 years now! I liked the set up of this one where your weapon can be used as a projectile but you can't melee without it. That said, there are aspects that I feel could use some improvements.

1. You right now have a button for "seed" mode and another button for "human" mode. Since you don't seem to be using a ducking system, but not make these the same button and it just switches between the two modes? This would free up a key for other things.

2. Speaking of other keys, the melee attack being on 2 feels odd given that it's the only button pressed in the number keys line. While moving it onto W (and making S just switch back and form between modes) would work, I wonder what it'd be like if the left click was for a melee attack while W was for throwing? You can make it that hitting left click still returns the spear if you've thrown it, since you need it before you can melee.

3. Dialogue behaves awkwardly. If you press the button to proceed while it's writing out a line, instead of just showing the whole line and needing to press again to go to the next line, it just jumps ahead. This could be something that is worked on so players don't need to wait on the text speed to get all the info.

4. I expect this is still on the horizon, but the sound design will need work. Atmosphere is so important in games like Metroid, Castlevania and Hollow Knight, and right now there's not enough in the sound design to set up the atmosphere right.

There is more than can be worked on, but these were the specific things I looked at. Otherwise, it plays nice and I do like how it's a bit forgiving when it comes to jumps. I can't wait to see more!

Developer (1 edit)

Oh thanks for playing! I would love to see the the YouTube VOD once it is out, please let me know!  I learn a ton from watching people play blind and with no help.

Thanks for all the notes I'll add them to my notes for sure!  Someday I'll add keybinding so people can do it how they like, I have the melee attack on a lot of buttons cuz that gets the most complaints haha (I think it is on the mouse thumb, the mouse wheel button, the shift key etc.). I just did the text dialog last week so it is super WIP still.  

I'm quite shocked about the sound design I did a TON of work haha, layers of ambient wind, cave echos, trees, random bird chirps and cave moans, every player movement has a sound (foots steps, landing, jumping, melee swings), running through grass has a sound, positional audio (like if you stand near electricity you hear it and it fades as you walk away).  I wonder if the overall volume is low, cuz I always use headphones heh.

Jam Host (1 edit) (+1)

Hi, I tried your game, it's very lovely, beautiful stages, cute lore, and I enjoy the core mechanics with the spear, however for the life of me, perhaps missing some directions, I could not figure out how to crutch and get past stage 3. ^_^llll I wonder if others would get the similar problem as a new player. 

Another issue I ran into as a streamer is that the game opened up on my Monitor 2 and I had no way to window or change it, I had to modify my stream setting right away in order to show case it, more game setting relating to monitor adjustment or just having windowed option would be great. 

Developer(+1)

Oh thank you so much!! I'll watch this after work :D  I'll learn a lot from your video I'm sure~ hopefully I can stop players from getting too stuck, and I'll definitely add a switch monitor option (after learning how to do it haha) thanks again!

Jam Host

or you can just do a windowed option that would help too if that's easier. :D 

Developer (1 edit) (+1)

If you ever want to play some more, this is the way you go.  You were so close hehehe. (the game is currently 70 more rooms to explore)

From watching I learned I gotta make the currency nodes more visible, and make sure they aren't where you fight enemies haha. Also I gotta figure out how you got 2 spears at one point.

I wonder how I can make the path a bit more clear, it's a tough balance cuz metroidvania fans hate hand holding, and average gamers hate getting too lost.

Jam Host

Thanks for the note! :D 

Submitted(+1)

As a fan of metroidvanias, I loved platforming with the spear and the cozy feel of the environment. Just like with most metroidvanias though, I died a lot and got lost after beating the second boss. After playing for a while, I started getting really comfortable chucking the spear around and found that you could defeat enemies really quickly by throwing the spear near them and then immediately doing 2 melees which is a little faster than 2-3 melees.

Overall I really enjoyed the game and if I was better at it I'm sure I would have been able to experience a few more powerups and quests outside of the seed one.

Developer(+1)

Thanks for the awesome feedback! I'll add it to my notes :D