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how is this working?

A topic by razcore-rad created Sep 24, 2016 Views: 1,836 Replies: 24

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razcore-rad8 years ago

Hello fellow virtual entities!

I'm new with game jams in general and I want to be sure about some things:

1. does 4 colors mean, 4 colors on top of the 2 white and black non-colors? example: white, black, red, green, blue, yellow, would this be allowed?

2. can there be shades of these colors? say have red and play with saturation or luminosity?

3. what's stopping us from starting developing the game today? how does this work exactly? do we need to start building the game when the jam starts? or can we gather resources and start developing on it right away and just have it submitted during the 10 days?

I'm Razvan Radulescu, razvanc-r around the web and pretty much unknown as I've only been lurking in the virtual shadows but I'm trying to make my way towards game dev. somehow :). I'm a fan of Godot and would like to use this engine, but it can't export for gameboy, would it be enough to just have the specific resolution and the color thing?

Thanks for all the help!

Tselmek8 years ago

As far as I know black and white are counted as a colour on their own, a different shade means a different colour. As for question 3, I guess you could technically start working on the game now but that's not the spirit of the jam.

You can make games for any platform you want, it is not required to be exported on Gameboy.

razcore-rad8 years ago

Thanks, that clears up things! I wouldn't start the developing before the jam starts, but I definitely need to do some research as this would be my first game and I don't know if I'm able to do it in 10 days... :). Hope that's not breaking the spirit of the jam! I don't like being the "cheat" :P

Víctor Ramón Rodríguez8 years ago (1 edit)

White and black counts as colours, look any gameboy game for reference and you will see only 4 colours at any time. Any shade or modification of a color counts as a different color. And for question 3, this is a jam. It's not a competition for any prize or something, we're making games for learning/fun and because we love to make them! So there's no point for starting right now to make a game for the jam.

And you can use Godot and export to any platform, you don't have to create a cartridge.

retrosharkHost8 years ago

Thanks for answering all these questions for him your right on the money with your answer!

Hawkun8 years ago (2 edits)

1. does 4 colors mean, 4 colors on top of the 2 white and black non-colors? example: white, black, red, green, blue, yellow, would this be allowed?

Nope. Think of it as 4 shades of the same colour. So if your colour scheme was say RED for example, you could have:

BLACK
DARK RED
RED
WHITE

And these would be your 4 colours.

2. can there be shades of these colors? say have red and play with saturation or luminosity?

Again, nope. Imagine if we took a screengrab of your game and put it in to photoshop then asked photoshop to count the colours in that screenshot. More than 4? Well, this would be outside the spirit of the Jam.

3. what's stopping us from starting developing the game today? how does this work exactly? do we need to start building the game when the jam starts? or can we gather resources and start developing on it right away and just have it submitted during the 10 days?

Start building your game when the Jam starts if you want to be part of the spirit of things. It's about pushing yourself to see what you can make in 10 days, that's the only real prize on offer here.

Daniel Linssen8 years ago

For the first two questions, you can only use four RGB values. So for example you could use $f5f5d4, $96cf85, $4b6d85 and $352b31 (such as in my display picture). No other RGB values should ever appear anywhere in the game. For the third question, no one will know you started early but it is very strongly against the spirit of the game jam. You are essentially cheating, and given it is an online competition with no prize you are only cheating yourself.

retrosharkHost8 years ago

That last bit about the starting the jam early is very well put Daniel, thanks for helping with the great response! Happy jamming :)

Desttinghim8 years ago

I'm currently trying to make something similar to the pico 8, but with gameboy limitations, for the jam. Would this be in the spirit of the jam?

retrosharkHost8 years ago

Yes that would be cool, but good luck getting it out there before October 1st.

Desttinghim8 years ago

Yeah, it probably won't be out there that soon. But I'm having fun making it, and I've made better progress than I would have expected.

retrosharkHost8 years ago

What language are you going to make the standard within your GBJAM IDE?

Desttinghim8 years ago

I am using Haxe and Kha to make this engine, and so I'm using hscript ( a more limited version of Haxe ) for my IDE. This is mostly out of convenience. If I decide to keep working on this I may switch to a different language.

I have just uploaded my current progress to Github. There's still a lot of work that needs to be done.

https://github.com/desttinghim/GBEngine

Hawkun8 years ago (1 edit)

It took the pico8 guy a few years... ;)

Desttinghim8 years ago

Well... that's a really good point. So far it feels like I'm making really good progress though. We'll see if it's in a usable state by the time the Jam rolls around :)

Obvious_San8 years ago

I think the question fits the thread: Would it be okay, if the player may choose at the begin between different Color schemes? Like you can do on the GBC. :)

Hawkun8 years ago (1 edit)

if you have time! Tbh it's easier just to do GB pal considering the time span ;-)

retrosharkHost8 years ago

Yes that is fine! A couple people in the past have done that in the options menu and you get to pick a palette to play with.

ProgramancerSubmitted8 years ago

If I recall correctly, you can have palette swaps, but you are required to only display 4 colors on the screen at any given time. There were a few entries from last year that did some really nice palette swaps between levels (green palette to red palette, etc).

razcore-rad8 years ago (1 edit)

Hm! I think the rules should be more explicit about this since if you were to take it literally you'd think only 4 colors for the entire game... so! It does say "Use 4 colors per game" not... "per level"

ProgramancerSubmitted8 years ago

That was my thought too with the first GBJam I participated in. I do agree.

retrosharkHost8 years ago

I'll write something up.

ckoshiroSubmitted8 years ago

Can we dynamically change the color palete during gameplay?

I'm kinda of thinking in some mechanics that explore color shifting during gameplay...

retrosharkHost8 years ago

As long as only 4 colors are displayed on screen at any one time you are fine :)

ckoshiroSubmitted8 years ago

Thank you!

I have some interesting ideas to do with that :)

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