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Once again you do not have permission to use my mod or any of the parts in your packs.  Please kindly remove them. Thank you.

this is not the firts time lol

its not right to do it

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So are you upset with them for editing Giants mods? Do you understand the Giants TOS at all? Or are you simply hero worshipping?

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They aren't Giants mods... Stop repeating the same bullshit, repeating what AJ tells you doesn't mean it is the truth... 

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The fact you have to resort to insults tells me everything I need to know about you. That you have no clue as to what you're talking about but have convinced yourself that you do. I'm not going by what AJ is saying. I made up my own mind and seriously my guy, we went over all of this already and I explained the TOS to you. But maybe you don't recall that because in typical Crownzilla fashion, you resorted to name calling instead of actually having a conversation like an adult. 

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lol jest remve it when you make you one mods tell us but untell then STOP STEALING OTERS MODS










Dislike my comet i do not care

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How did I steal his mod? I didnt say i created his cab. I gave him credit. I didnt steal it from some private place, its posted publicly. And its not like he has all the rights to it, as he gave those to Giants as soon as he opened Giants Editor. Stop worshipping modders. 

Also, who cares if someone dislikes your comment. 

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Once again, I don't need your permission. This isnt your truck. The cab is from your truck, and I gave you credit for that. But thats it. You gave Giants permission to use your truck, and according to the TOS, they have granted rights to their users. 

The fact you use Giants mods as part of your edits and mods is more than enough evidence to tell everyone that this is either okay, or you're a hypocrite. 

I'm not removing this mod as it is something very different from what you offered.

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Bro, you must be braindead or something. No where in the TOS it says that Giants give you permissions to do whatever you want with other people's mods. Giants DO NOT OWN people's mods, they just gets automatic permissions to use/edit/distribute people's mods. But that's only for Giants Software, i doubt you are part of their team, therefore you DO NOT have any permissions to re-upload people's mods...

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Crown, you never disappoint. You talk about the TOS as if it means anything to you, which it obviously doesn't as you sell mods. Which is against the TOS. So why anyone should consider what you're saying is beyond me. 

I also didn't re-upload their mod. This isn't even an edit of their mod. I simply took a cab, from a public mod, and used it on a different mod. But I'm sure you have some insult just waiting right? Because that's all you actually have. No real debate, just insults.

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Ah yes, the "you sell mods" therefore you can't say anything... xD Same stuff every time. Maybe look at it at a different point, if no one buys my mods, then techically i'm not selling mods... I'm not responsible for people buying mods.. Also, do you say that since i brake TOS, you can brake TOS too. Debate? You are spreading same missinformation over and over again... And if we actually look at it, this convo isn't about me, Northwest Mods has completely free mods and he isn't braking the TOS at all, and he kindly asked you to remove the mods, since you don't have permissions to use his cab (basically half of his mod or even more) and just throw shitty AR beds and call it a day... So yes, i can debate, but if you can't read and understand simple sentences idk what debate we will have. Also, i didn't insult you - the way you act, the way you talk you really seem to have brain issues, because idk how you can't understand simple stuff...

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It doesn't matter if anyone is buys your mods. You are still creating them for a commercial purpose. Your argument here just shows you lack of understanding. It should tell everyone that there is no reason to trust your view because it's clearly bankrupt. 

Im also not saying that since you violate the TOS that I can. I'm saying the fact you violate it means you either don't care, or you don't understand, and thus your opinion means nothing.

Also, there are no AR beds on these. There is an AR attacher, as well as a host of other ones, thus the term universal here. The cab itself is the least important thing here. 

And you resort to name calling again, or to an ad homniem, while trying to defend it in the dumbest fashion possible. 

Not to mention, while you say I just repeat myself, that's all you've done. When I laid out an entire break down of the TOS, what was your response? An insult and refusal to address anything. Might just have to ban you again as you are still the same old Crown. 

crown you are a snake ever mod you make wether free or not has sucked and you are and why does this invole you i never saw you piece of junk mods cab so stay out of it

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And let's clear it, show me where in the TOS it says the words "Giants Software OWNS" and where it says "Giants Software gives permissions to everyone to edit/re-upload/distribute other people's mods" ... Let's see it, maybe i'm wrong, but i highly doubt it.

The TOS doesnt have to use that exact phrasing. What youve done here is made a logical fallacy and act as if it means anything. What the TOS says, as ive shown you elsewhere, is that Giants is granted usage rights over anything created with their software and they grant their users rights to use those creations within the realm of that game as long as they don't do it for commercial reasons. But I know you don't really care what the TOS says as you do mod for commercial purposes. So there is no reason to believe you when it comes to the TOS that you don't even abide by. At best, you're being a hypocrite. 

So you basically said nothing as per usual, you didn't show anything from the TOS, you just kept talking the same thing as you are on repeat.. 

It's okay if you don't understand what I'm saying. It's clearly a waste of my time to continue with you. 

he is right if i can have right to edit mods in editer way cant he

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How you call the mod different when you use the cab and everything, you just added compatibility for the 82's AR Beds, the rest is the same, could you please explain how that'ts "very different" (since you want debate).

The cab is just style. Everything else is functionality. I could slap any cab onto this frame and it will continue to work. I remove the cab, and the cab itself does nothing. Not to mention that the xml coding is vastly different.  Yeah, it has the things in it for just cab, but that's cosmetics. 

That's great, then please change the cab to something else. Oh and just another friendly reminder, I didn't give you permission to use any of my parts for your mod. Maybe if you would have asked first, like most of the respected members of the community would have done, you might have received a different response to this. Either way. Kindly remove any parts you have used from my mod. Thank you. 

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We've hashed this out already. You got my answer. And if being a respected member means whining and complaining about people enjoying the game by making mods, then I don't want to be part of that community. So no, won't be removing this. 

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This is for sure not hashed out until you remove any parts of my mod from your truck..

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Hashed as we came to an understanding. I won't remove this. 

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you understand that what your doing makes you a really shitty person right?  It’s not about the TOS and rights etc. it’s about respect towards fellow modders.  No other modder that has any respect in this community is running around re-uploading hacked parts of a bunch of peoples hard work. I feel sad for you man. Hope you come around and realize one day when you actually create something original yourself.

I feel sad for you. You're a grown man, trying to manipulate someone else, insulting another person, trying to make them conform to your community, over a game. And with all that, you can't see your own hypocrisy. Create something original? You had someone model your mods. You didn't originally create those models, you state so yourself. You copied the xml, as everyone does, and entered your information. I mean Giants did the original work there. Your mods contain items made my Giants modders, and you have no issue taking those without asking permission. 

I don't care about the respect of a bunch of whiney modders who are hypocrites. If that's what you want, great. I'll hang out with others. Maybe one day you'll grow up enough not to put so much stock in what others think about you. 

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You do realize that if North West didn't create the Ford, you wouldn't have a cab to use for your shitty mod, do you? No one is stopping you from making mods, but make your own mods like everyone else here, don't take other's people mods, quickly edit them and then say how you make mods....

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Stop being a little child. Go cry somewhere else. I dont care for you insult any lomger.

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wow its not your mod

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he is right

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How would you know hes right? Have you read the TOS? If so, point to where the TOS suggests hes right? Otherwise your opinion here is meaningless.

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Please kindly remove the cab from your truck frame. I have not given you permission to use that part or any other part from my mod. Thank you.

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We dealt with this before. We both know where this will end up. You granted much of your rights over to Giants who then granted many of those rights to their user base. What I'm doing is within my rights according to Giants. I'm not taking it down. 

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This has not been dealt with by any means. Please kindly remove any parts your are using from your mod. you do not have my permission to use them. Thank you.

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We've went over this. Won't happen. 

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It doesn't matter if he changes it,  it will show errors on the logs. That will show everyone his modding skills. It doesn't take much to copy someone.  I'm sorry u are having to deal with this.

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The mods work. Im happy with them, others are. I could care less what other modders think because i dont mod for them. Whine if you must, thats fine.

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well make your one mods or keep them privit 

funny part is you like your coments

lol

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I dont get your fascination with people disliking or liking comments. It doesnt matter. And why keep this stuff private? Dont like it, dont use it. Simple enough. If you understood the TOS, youd see that what Im doing, and even what North West does, is encouraged by Giants.

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bro wth chill a little lol dude took a good mod and made it even better. this is what is wrong with the community. he didn't take it and add some awful message on top of it. a mod like this is what I've been looking for. if you are proud of your mod you should say "dang this is a nice mod, what you did to it looks great." I don't get all the hate for him using something you made and changing it a little bit to add more?? neither of you are selling them, they're all public, and he even gave you full credit. I'm not sure what the big deal is?

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I'm chill, no need to worry about me.  I'm not loosing sleep over this I assure you. I just have some free time to fight for what I think is right.

also just fyi before you continue drinking the cool aid these hacks are spewing , I paid around 200 bucks to buy the 3d model. I also got a proper license from ford to use it. I then put over 1000 hours of personal time into making it function and perform the way it does in game.  It's for sure not perfect, I've never said that, but it is one one of the better performing and functioning trucks out there for a high detailed model.  but after all that effort to have someone take it and repost it with out even asking if it was ok. Not "Chill" by me at all.

also, please tell me where else in the community you see "respected" creators taking mods from other creators without collaboration or permission and re-sharing the parts with a few changes to them to accommodate other mods that most users can just do themselves? It's what miserable and attention seeking individuals with no talent and no self respect end up doing. We see it happen all the time especially within this community. But thanks for taking the time out of your day to share your thoughts. I do think it's a big deal, but your entitled to your own opinion. Have a wonderful day.

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For anyone who cares, I'm just banning this guy. He's a hypocrite, he's negative and he's what's wrong with this community. There's no point in speaking with people like this.

That's crazy that you got a "proper license" from Ford to use it for your mod when Giants software themselves don't even have one. Show some legitimate proof or it's all bullshit. That's what ever forgets even if we ignore Giants TOS every vehicle mod modeled based on a real vehicle, using its likeness and brand badging it copyright infringement the moment to attempt to sell and profit from it. You can't say someone stole your mod because first the moment you use giants editor to make your mod tos giants grants anyone permission to use/ edit/ share. Second it's can't be stolen because you shared it someone or illegally sold it. You have no license to the copyright of any of the vehicle mod regardless if you modeled it from scratch. The moment to attempt to sell it illegal and not yours. It's only stealing if the only copy is on your computer and someone physically or digitally took it without permission.