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Pesha30 days ago(+1)

WARNING! Very long answer.

As I have said, I have no deeper information on the inner workings of the game. Just rough understanding from hours spent playing it with different origin stories.

That said, from what I experienced, there is some stuff your sister warns you about that is really true. And not only on the bus.
It is just strongly dependent above all on two of your character's attributes: Desire and Allure. Allure regulates how eager the men around you are willing to mingle with you. Desire regulates how much you are willing (or unwilling) to reject their approaches. The other attributes, Confidence, Fitness, etc. and alcohol also play a role but they aren't as obvious.

Take for example the school bullies. They will harass you as long as your confidence is very low. I don't think they will rape you since I've never seen it happen, but I'm not sure because one of my priorities is always to increase confidence as fast as possible. Perhaps I will try the Bambi setting next to test what happens.

But yes, there are situations where you will be raped on the bus or in the park to name just two of the more probable locations without the possibility to offer resistance. Just be really alluring (400++) and have your desire on overdrive (300++ or better more. I think my "best" value was way higher. Don't remember exactly, but perhaps higher than 1000.) Being drunk and on the move on weekends after midnight helps a lot.

Try to serve in the pub on Saturday until it closes around 3 AM on Sunday. Prepare a really revealing outfit to switch (or be switched) to. If some of the customers invited you to drink with them and spiced your drink with a LEBO, the probability for you to be attacked and unable to reject the advances is very high. You can also increase your Desire to your max pretty easily by wearing an anal plug. This can be sometimes found or bought.

The probability to be forced to have sex is also very high during the Haven mission. But here, again, I managed to escape this fate even when plying with a Bimbo origin. Just had to reload once or twice.

I am an old school role player and thus try to immerse myself very deeply in the role of the character. Therefore I always try to avoid unwanted sex in this game. Partly because of the game's setting being as it is a caricature of a misogynistic world. So perhaps my view is somewhat distorted.

But I think it's true that the world of "The Fixer" is not as brutal as it is communicated. A lot of really negative encounters can be avoided if you are not front-up reckless. Possibly Sam_Tail has either defused the game since the initial release, where the sister was conceived, or simply didn't find the time to implement the more brutal aspects yet.

Cpt Obvious199430 days ago(+1)

With high Desire and Allure I was able to get some things to trigger, but I feel like needing high Desire kind of defeats the point. At that point, you character accepts/encourages what's being done to her, so it's debatable if it's even rape at that point. Seems like it would make more sense for it to only rely on Allure, with Desire just controlling whether or not you're willing. Also, you mentioned events "without the possibility to offer resistance," but I was given the option to resist in almost every event I saw. The only one I wasn't given a choice is one on the bus where someone randomly cums on your ass with no warning.

I can say that the bullies will rape you after enough events with them with low Confidence. It requires a lot of events though, more than you're likely to get without just constantly walking around the school to get them to trigger. Related to that though, I've never understood how to raise or lower Confidence. In my current and previous playthroughs it's just gone up and down on its own unless I specifically change it with cheats.

Pesha30 days ago(+1)

Just being offered the possibility to resist doesn't mean you will also be actually able to resist in this game.

You can rise Confidence slowly by having your Mood very high, near 100. And this in turn can be achieved by being well fed, clean, well rested and, yes, sexually content. So either have sex a lot or just masturbate. You can lower your Confidence by unwanted acts performed to you. But I don't know if this is permanent.

I would argue that driving your desire up by drugs and then making you accept sex is as well a rape as any other. This at least is my understanding how this would be handled in a real life court.

And this whole notion of women who "just pretend and just need to be aroused and then they are willing" is a very misguided misconception from real life porn, has nothing to do with reality and which, funnily enough, matches this whole misogynistic world of "The Fixer" perfectly.

And your argument about Allure is also borderline, since many rapers argue it's the women's own fault for wearing revealing clothing.

Don't get me wrong. This is a game and not reality so it has its own rules and laws. I'm just saying any game setting of "The Fixer" is as good as any other since any comparison to real world is - or should be - deeply disturbing. Which I think is exactly one of the goals of this game. To be exaggeratedly satirical and caricatural.

To be honest I'm very glad that you aren't raped on every corner in "The Fixer". The whole notion of the forced re-population, child licenses and women being forced to carry to term their offspring even in cases of planned brutal rape is already disturbing enough. But of course that's my own opinion and I'm liberal enough to accept anyone's view in a completely fictional world.

Thanks for clearing up the situation with the bullies. This will move the Bambi origin a bit down my pipeline of origins yet to play.

Cpt Obvious199429 days ago(+1)

When I was talking about things being debatable if they're rape, I wasn't referring to things that happen if her drink is spiked. I was talking about naturally having your character's desire get super high (which it will do if you're not doing anything sexual), getting on the bus, and then actively choosing to let someone fuck her. There's one event at high Desire where she consciously chooses to look for someone to grope her, and then you're given the choice on whether or not to let them go further. There's another event where someone just starts groping her, and it begins with a "Accept Sexual Advances" popup. This one is directly dependent on desire. There is no "Reject" version of this event. If you're Desire is low enough that you'd reject the advances, the event just doesn't even trigger.

I also didn't say anything about high Allure making it "the woman's fault." I'm just saying if nonconsensual events have to rely on any stat to trigger, Allure is the one that would make the most sense. It's the same way that Degrees of Lewdity works. The higher your Allure, the higher the chance that someone will attack you. Maybe part of the problem is, because of the dialogue, I'm expecting this game's world to be similar to Degrees of Lewdity. And maybe the intention is that it is similar in the lore, but not in the gameplay.

Pesha29 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

No, no, I understand. I didn't try to accuse you or anything. There are so many different events in the game.

My rant was more directed to the general audience who might read our conversation. I just felt it necessary to point out to everybody that this is a game far away from reality. Your comments were just the right occasion.

Don't do this at home, kids! ;)