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noodie25 days ago(+2)

thank you so much for answering! and i'm sorry for the late reply, haha, i was busy working and i did read it prior but didn't know when i had the time to write out a reply but oh wow i love hearing about your personal experiences and how you incorporate it into the game!! it's nice to know that every one has a part of them in stories that they tell, it's sweet and makes my heart warm! i think it's apart of why i love indie games so much. but anywho i appreciate hearing about these kinds of things!

and ahhh... i love katnir so much... i quite enjoy characters like him!! he's not confusing at all, i think it's perfectly reasonable the way that he acts especially with since he's been through so much!! and he loses SOOO much in ADWAVH. i think i was suffering most of the time bc i just cldnt handle seeing him distressed TToTT  which i'll attach below! buttttttt i love katnir so dearly and i will understand him in every single universe. and wah... while he doesnt like having this little air of refinement, i think it's a cute contrast to his way of living. 





and to touch up on ruwin in ur second reply, it's very tragic! and ruwin's story is terribly heartbreaking but you made sure to flesh him out well!!! he was just a child when it happened and unfortunately under drastic circumstances, his physicality worked against him :( i enjoy hearing about your own experiences, once again, and i think it's interesting haha! ruwin being a saint bernard is so cool!! especially with the comparison, big brain big brain! but as always... ruwin, if no one cares about you then that means im dead. i am ur #1 fan... ur crimes r mine too


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coffeedripstudios24 days ago(+2)

Hi Noodie,

Aww thanks for checking in with us and don't worry if you get busy with work and stuff, I totally understand! I'm glad you liked reading about all my random musing that I have around these characters. Ashur was a surprise to me in so many ways because he's such the antithesis my own personality and actually working with people like him in team settings used to drive me bananas. As I grew older and opened my mind more to appreciating others strengths and weaknesses, I start to appreciate people like Ashur more, even if I personally need to take them in small doses haha. He was late to join the cast of characters but I think his comedic presence really helps move the plot in a more fun way. I enjoyed writing him a lot more than I thought just because he sort of made me laugh too with all his absurd antics. I would write him with whatever came to mind first and have to change and fix the plot to fit it afterwards. In the midst of the chess players, he's messing with the board, moving like it's tic tac toe LOL. It was a bit freeing to write so recklessly.

Sorry for all that Katnir has to endure in ADWVH! It reminds me how my copy editor was saying that visiting Katnir in the prison was particularly painful for her because of what a kind of free spirit Katnir represented. Originally he was mentioned in the text as just kind of lying there (I think I was thinking they would've beaten him up a bunch by then due his disrespect/defiance, but it wasn't really specified) but I corrected it in the update to make him "hanging" chained up well because I figured he definitely would've tried everything to escaping even then seeing that rogues are pretty good at finding exploits, so I'm sure the Crown would take extra precautions. 

Thanks for sharing your screenshots. I'm sorry for all that you endured as well, but I also enjoying reading your reactions and seeing the memes (especially the pikmin one! Aaah I love pikmin thanks to my kiddo LOL) Ruwin as a saint bernard is so precious LOL and i'm suddenly remembering how much that dog drooled. I would've kept taking care of that dog despite the challenges but my poor cat at the time refused to come out from under the bed, even weeks after he left I had to coax her out with little pieces of her favorite chicken. His presence in the house alone just traumatized the crap out of her. Printing it out the doggo and adding it to my wall <3.

Wishes you the best!

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De'Gloughan24 days ago(+3)

I will have you know that I've been over the new things in AVH to check for typos, and I've just finished the prison scenes. Still breaking my heart, thank you very much. ...Katnir-! *SOB* </3

And to Noodle, I'm glad to see another rogue fan! The rogues in this series go through so much, it's a wonder that they haven't gone mad- *remembers Ashur* -er. Madder. I remember in the original ADW release that someone wrote in to mention that Katnir was difficult for them to understand but he was the easiest rogue for me to "get", so it's good to hear that others are coming to understand him well. But ,then again, Earth types are rather easy to figure out.

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coffeedripstudios24 days ago(+3)

Oooh speaking of my copy editor!! <3 thanks for joining the discussion! Please forgive me for speaking on your behalf, I just enjoy your feedback as well. Also about Earth types being easy to read, yeah I resemble that remark ! Lol. Come to think of it, I really did put the rogues through some stuff didn't i? but that's what they get for having so much personal ambitions within a rigid system you know? They all have a lot of audacity to keep trying to fight it. 

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De'Gloughan23 days ago(+3)

No problem at all, use whatever of my thoughts as you wish, and thank you for being an unwitting buffer for me to barge in and say hello to people! I've wanted to do it for a while and couldn't for the life of me think up a way to do it without coming across as crazy. So when I saw you mention me, I thought "Ah, a natural entry point for me to come in a dip my toe".

Everyone really are very friendly and supportive here, aren't they? I think the guild is rubbing off on them.

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noodie22 days ago (1 edit) (+4)

ROGUE LIKERS 🤝

and to speak more about rogues, i think i'm interested in their more deeply cemented problems and trauma that has affected them entirely! all three seem to be shrouded with a kind of indescribable past that makes me want to gnaw on them  djkasfgnjdkggf,.. not saying that the others are uninteresting, i just think the rogues cater to a specific demographic- which is ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! katnir was easily readable to me even though i have trouble responding to him. to me he's sentimental and emotional which is highly exploitable so he conceals it even with people he trusts. i'm not entirely sure if he's reacted like that his whole life to the point he can't 'turn' it off or if he's reacting like that to avoid his feelings hurt with every single person ever but ToT....... id like to believe it's both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love u katnir!!!!!! i love you and i know you!

oh and this is an edit ; but please feel free to 'barge' into conversations! it is SO very welcome (to me personally! i cant speak for anyone else) and i think it's so so nice to talk to multiple people about things i enjoy! cheers!

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De'Gloughan17 days ago(+2)

Hey, sorry for the late reply! I was so busy at work and didn't have the energy to check the forums.

Most of the characters have trauma, but rogues are unique in that they all have something life changing happen in their lives. Granted, Ruwin's trauma and Mikaylis' is enough to make up for Beisel's cushy life, and Miyetta and Lor make up for Beileph's isolation,  even the priests don't all have it so bad.

Rogues are definitely punished as a whole faction. Granted, Ashur takes it on the chin, but he's, uh... unique. In many ways, and I say that with affection.

Katnir is absolutely sentimental but he's also fairly easy for me to know how to react to him in the scenes. He has his guard up, and the worst thing to do is to try to bring it down. Let him come to you. It's a trick that works on animals, and Katnir was raised by them, so why not? Joking aside, he's fixated on his familial loss and wants something concrete, despite his knowledge that nothing lasts forever. It's a contradictory wish that you have to allow him to ruminate on. Don't offer promises, only chances, because he's too cynical/wise and knows that promises will get broken which will lead to disappointment. Chances are just that, you've given him the choice to take the plunge. His rogue traits make him want to take chances, even is his earth trait is warning him of all the ways it could go wrong. He is a character of great depth that I rarely see in VNs, and he's my favourite rogue for it!

ROGUE LIKERS UNITE 🤝

(I have to confess though, although rogues are my favourite faction on the whole, none of them are in my top 3 characters for the series...)

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De'Gloughan23 days ago(+3)

I have to apologise to Noodie, because I spelt your name wrong in my last message! I call Lor "Noodle", so that's what came out naturally, but I will remember that it's an "i" instead of an "l" in future!

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noodie22 days ago (1 edit) (+3)

It's totally fine! I go by Noodle and Noodie, mostly Noodle because my friends tend to call me that haha! But call me anything you like!

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