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HI ZACK:3333!!! FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SOOO MUCH! it is such a delight to be able to share my work and make others happy! im also quite happy to know that the ashur artwork got you to like him JAHSJSHFNRBF he is my second favorite for a reason, silly kind of stupid but still pretty intelligent and intuitive men for the win!!!!!!!!

that sequence of events seems about right for finding games haha! i think im pretty turned off of games that i cant figure out how to play and it’s mainly my fault, not the games!! Y_Y but im happy that you seem to do ur research and to find fan works to motivate you into playing!! that’s so interesting! i think a well rounded community allows for newer players to feel more welcome or to get more people interested, let’s do our best together!!

AND HEHEHE i get it! i was extremely enamored by the writing because a lot of vns seem to be poorly written these days in order to focus more on the romance aspect. while that’s all good and everything, i think id like a story that has a lot more plot + romance engrained in interesting ways and ADW was wonderful for something that fit the somehow rare middle ground. i also found myself drawn to the writing because of how simple the dialogue was! i remember gushing about how you don’t need any text that’s eloquent or long winded to truly be something ‘great’! sometimes katnir saying something like ; “Can I be happy about this yet?” is enough to give insight into a relationship with the TO and his character without going into excruciating detail about it.

I LOVE THE ROGUES TOO! while i am naturally drawn to their charming behavior, i think it’s soo lovely to hear that you like all three HAHA. they are… interesting!

and to celebrate more ashur fans! i doodled a little ashur, enjoy! ☆

ZaCk:333318 days ago(+3)

Your fanart has really given me a lot of ideas and motivation ^ω^ They are absolutely definitely very very amazing!!!!!!!!!I very much agree with what you said about ADW being in the middle ground, because usually, The romance aspect is probably more appealing to me than the main story, but in ADW, I can't help but look forward to the next development of the plot.The balance between the romance and the main story works well.I think the more the plot progresses, the more I can feel the charm of the characters, and the deeper the connection with my partners along with the main plot. More and more like them, ADW dialogue is very simple, but can depict a lot, it is very interesting!! Finally, thank you for your doodle ,That's too cuuuuuuute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I SURVIVED in the Don't Fall in Love with rogue challenge for 0.01 seconds,let's try??LOL

coffeedripstudios14 days ago(+2)

Hi Noodie, I realize that I talked about inspiration for the other rogues but avoid talking too much about Jeth's mentality because I do not in any way, want to condone or justify his harmful behaviors (IRL, I wouldn't be in the same room with him LOL) but since this is fiction I think it's interesting to explore these personalities, I will explain a bit of my thinking when creating and writing Jeth. For those who might be disturbed by Jeth behaviors, that is a totally natural and valid reaction and you don't have an obligation to explore his character. But for those who are curious and love to dive into the rogues of this series-

WARNING- JETH IS A HOT MESS*****************************************************

Jeth is my take on a "yandere" type character. Admittedly, I'm not normally a "fan" of this archtype, but I often like to explore things that are not usually my thing as to better understand and appreciate it. Most of this behaviors are "theoretical" in my mind, but sadly his more sociopathic behaviors are based on real toxic dynamics that I have personally experienced and witnessed many of the people in my life endure. The part that is most fictional, is his actual love and devotion for the TO....

Firstly, he is a professional assassin and the only character that despite the normalization of violence and killing in this world, is truly remorseless. My mind can't place myself in the shoes of a sadist individual that derives pleasure from inflicting harm so rather than explain his behavior as sadistic, I had to have him cope with his violence through detachment. He's simply numbed himself from his humanity to do his job that he was always trained for, by developing a jaded and bitter disdain for the world as a whole. A true nihilist. He sees the world as a dog eat dog, play for power, where those who are the cruelist and most ruthless will always exploit those who are more selfless. Since he feels that ironically those who grasp power will also be "ruled" by it in the end, a hopeless struggle to hold an illusion that humans in a world created by gods, can't truly possess. he prefers to situate himself adjacent to power, tip the scales here and there and watch to see if his world view can be challenged. In an odd way, Jeth and Ruwin could probably relate in their disillusioned views of their world and structures of power, but their approaches to tackling this problem in their minds are irreconcilably different. Ruwin's more naive and simple way of thinking makes it easier for him to be persuaded in the possibility of more hopeful, brighter future, filled with personal redemption and fulfilling human connections.

Jeth is originally interested in the power and potential the TO presents and will kill them very early on in the game if he feels the TO is more trouble than it would be worth. But it's not long before he falls hard for the TO, as they spark a hope in him of a world and people outside his jaded existence. Maybe he could've been capable of love outside the TO, but the TO being from another world was the catalyst that opened his heart to his humanity. Perhaps he always saw himself aloofly looking at the world from the outside, and the TO as a true outsider, he felt he could connect with them. This is what he's referring to when he says the TO is untainted/pure, he means in the sense of not dirtied by the senseless crap of their world. When the TO rejects him, he's devastated and is surprised by his own desperate emotions. He marks the TO with a scar if the TO keeps seeing him, even after he told them to stay away if they weren't interested in a relationship. as a warning to stay as far away from him as possible. This is also probably to be taken with a grain of salt, but I researched where Jeth (an expert killer) would probably cut someone in as a warning but with as little actual harm as possible. Don't look at my search history U___U;;; And yes, at that point in the sequence of rejections, he's prepared to be rejected again and regardless of how carefully he did it, it's still an absolutely unacceptable way of setting a boundary, Jeth go to jail for assault, ok?)) It's bad of him, but he'd rather be hated and shunned by the TO than dragged along in some amicable way, and keeping his (now painful) emotions and hope alive. As eluded to in his aftermath conversations if you bond 5 him but not bond 6, he will be very mad at himself and bitterly admit that he still can't stop himself from wanting to throw himself pathetically at the TO (aka is unable to kill the hope of love and connection).

This is attitude towards his own world vs TO's other world is also why he is much calmer and more willing to listen and cooperate when he's in the TO's world in Gacha Date. He wants to believe in a better world, life and relationship for himself and the TO. When in an official relationship with the TO, he won't harm them and will not force himself on them (tho he sulks a bit if refused), though he's still couldn't care less about destroying anything and anyone from his world, if he felt if the benefits would outweigh the costs. Like on some level, he knows the TO will be upset with killing everyone in his return ending, but he feels he must take the iniative to do the dirty work to fulfill the TO's wish, when the TO is to selfless to do so. A bit too twisted to say it's well meaning... one probably avoid dating assassins.

I try to give the player a bit of power over Jeth, so if the player doesn't like him, they can enjoy seeing his mask slip, and know he's made to feel powerless in his frustrations (the TO living rent free in his mind and haunting him for the rest of his life XD;;;)

How much of this I was able to protray, I don't know since he's not exactly one to just explain himself plainly, nor do I think he's fully aware of his own coping mechanisms. Originally, he was a bit too controlled and calculating, that I thought his true personality would never be unveiled enough, so maybe that's another reason why he flip flops from charming to an unhinged freak LOL.

JustaOneGirl14 days ago (8 edits) (+2)

Oh wow! Jeth lore! Jeth is a character ım highly interested in psychology topic so ı also would love to say few of my thoughts about him X3 sorry for stepping in!

haha ım suprised ı got few right assumptions about him XD especially with the power one! when ı was playing the game the way he spoke felt like there is curiosity and small hope yet ıt didnt felt like in general but rather about personal intentions. To be honest seing his cruel sides ı didnt really wanted to be involved with him again X3 because ıt felt like as ıf ı was at his mercy and ı wouldnt do anything ıf he wanted to do worse. ofc every character in the game is alot stronger than me but the fact that Jeth doesnt hesitate to use it for selfish desires gives so much red flag in my eyes.

Though in the whole villain's heart game he was the character ı specially tried to understand and look in deeper ways.
Only then ı noticed that he is rather alot ''guarded'' from eyes of the outside than ı thought? since ı could feel there is something wrong with him yet couldnt put my finger on it. he is quiet good at keep his mask though he is not perfect either since everyone is keeping their eyes on him everyone knows he is quiet dangerous regardless of how much he keeps acting ''nice'' XD

ı still admire how he can at least look so calm and collected as long as he doesnt get swayed by his own emotions. yet ı feel like he is bit arrogant one too thinking himself more highly than other as ıf he solved all the world's mystery by himself ^^; or at least he thinks he knows good enough? though ıts undeniable that ıf ıt wasnt for him current situation in crown would never have happened. perhaps then ı could say he is kind of aware of his power and potential yet strangely instead of trying to improve he sees no reason to do so and gets stuck in his own negative reasoning? X3 (ah well human psychology is never an easy topic for me.)

In the end ı see jeth as more like wasted potential as he keeps getting swayed by his own emotions twisting even his logic. But ı wonder ıf he ever tries to look into things differently? or he thinks that would be waste of time. to be honest instead of trying to connect with ''familiar person'' he could simply try to connect with himself? XD like Ruwin haha. I guess he sees no reason to do so unaware that he literally sets his own cage where he suffers.

as for how he acts in gacha date.... so this is why he felt so different lol XD he was actually feeling hopeful and trying to show real effort 0-0 ı do remember seeing him being so calm and ı was like ''.... did Eve and Jonas did something to him or am ı overreacting????''

Personally he is a big no no for me but ıts very fun to obverse him for ''science'' XD

coffeedripstudios13 days ago(+2)

Hi JustaOneGirl,

I'm glad for when you jump in and share your thoughts! I think that is one of the fun aspects of having an open forum and hopefully others feel the same.

I think your thoughts regarding Jeth are pretty insightful. Often times it's hard to try to understand characters/people when we disapprove of their actions. I have a strange fascination for understanding bad behavior, even if I don't believe in justifying the behavior, I do find it interesting to explain for several reasons but primarily for self preservation. Explaining from a psychological point of view, often makes it more obvious that is not me/the victim to blame. Some very manipulative behaviors need this kind of clarification for me, since I tend to hold myself easily accountable.

Somehow this habit turned into reading about all kinds of serial killers and criminal offenders. I used to be addicted to true crime type shows lol.

noodie13 days ago (5 edits) (+2)

hi and thank you! it's very nice to see developers understanding that it's totally fine to make and delve into characters that are evil while holding these characters accountable for their actions. thank you so much for even addressing the fact that people can be disturbed by his behavior, it's a very observant and kind thing for you to do! i'm also sorry that you have experienced people like him in your life, it must've been really tough but on the bright side you at least have some kind of experience for writing them, haha

i personally find myself drawn to characters like jeth in a psychological manner, he is charming in a DNA way and i am fond of the way he reacts to things that are new to him- by being morbidly curious. you wrote him really well and i found myself interested in the way that he acted and wondered what his story really was. and when i did, i came to find out that he was groomed for his behavior which doesn't excuse it but what i really took from it was the budding curiosity that he had from the very beginning. i think it's fascinating that he's curious about the TO and i think it's fascinating that he's curious about the world that they're from. this is no shade to any creators and obviously people deserve to create what they love but villain characters that are humanized will always have me drawn to their behavior.

and so i found myself fluttering in circles around the villains, flip flopping between feeling extremely connected with them and getting upset about the things they do. i think i am very easy to manipulate if you can put ur mind to it LOL. you put so much care into jeth's character and i, PERSONALLY, could see him being confused and curious at the same time even if he doesn't truly express it since he's... well, you know, jeth. AND OMG! RUWIN AND JETH COMPARISON FTW!! i always thought they were similar in some kind of aspect but couldnt put a finger on it teehee.

oh man... i hope it's not me misinterpreting his character but i am joyful that his overwhelming yearning is on par for his lust for violence and power. and i'm glad that you wrote him to be that way! aka having a longing so deeply struck into him to the point of making him irrational and completely off his game! so cute! i dont think i'll ever romance jeth in a way that matters to him because i enjoy the prospect of torturing him with the painful HURTFUL HORRIBLE feeling of never being able to get something you TRULY want . (DISCLAIMER; i just really like unrequited love. it's delicious and jeth is a perfect victim for it) i also get a kick off of a bad man having to come to terms with his emotions in the most hurtful way possible ^q^ yessssss please go ahead and figure out ur yearning and heart break at the same time while KNOWING that the TO forgave you for almost killing them.

Lady Yumi is a forgiving woman, unforgivably so, Jeth thinks.

and i think my canon routes will always be with the 'heroes' of ADW or........... ashur... i guess (rolling my eyes) LOL. and personally i liked the way you portrayed him and the way he switches between two faces helped me like him even more fdakjgfdjkg, there are two wolves inside of you. a sick and twisted assassin with the desire to watch the world from the sidelines and a failguy who cannot for the life of him get the TO to like him because he cannot help but go freak mode every time he is shown a semblance of a smile from them.

and ive been drawing a lot lately for the forums haha, it's all doodles but i hope it isn't too much! and as always thank you for responding!

coffeedripstudios12 days ago(+1)

Hi Noodie,

Oooh I'm always happy to see more doodles ^o^

And yes, Jeth and Ruwin comparison! So it's unfortunate that Ruwin and Jeth didn't face off at the battle of Brookhaven like in the original draft (replaced him with Mikaylis so that Jeth could lead the whole forest kidnapping) because Ruwin was REALLY looking forward to smashing Jeth in the face and pretty much went on a big tirade how much he thinks Jeth is a worm, spineless ect blah blah but yeah. I always thought Ruwin especially hated on Jeth to that extent because he probably could sense something in common with him that he did not like in himself. *prints out more art for my wall* P:

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