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Scandanavian game developers do some you great work, you know. pretty sure most of them qualify as socialist.

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Actually they are more free market than the USA, they just have a massive welfare state and high taxes as a result. It is Captialism that funds it.

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you are aware that a form of socialism can coexist with capitalism, and that this is very common.
socialism is about the social ownership of the means of production.

this comes in various forms, one of which is nationalized institutions.
"We, The People" then own and operate it.

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Yes of course under Capitalism nothing stops you from starting a Socialist community. And there are examples of this, of course most fail and they do not scale well.

But under Socialism or any other Autoritarian system you are not free to create a business. Yet even under the most oppressive government's like North Korea there is black market Capitalism.

Peopel everywhere desire to be free. Nobody flees Capitalism to a Socialist country.

Think!

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actually, communes and communities scale amazingly well, if they can work mostly independant of eachother.
a cell like structure is actually extremely common in business and government alike.

in governments, they are usually hierarchical as well.

the cells operate mostly independantly, but answer to the layer above and command the layer below.

Second, me and my 5 friends starting An Island Onto Itself won't work, because what we need to survive and what we need to maintain standard of living will be with held from us.

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Yet there are no examples, they have all failed. Odd if it is such a good system that nobody has managed to make it work.

Nothing in your way other than hurdles that anybody else faces. You don't need an island. Yet there are people that put in the hard work and achive their dreams all the time. People that go off grid and live with very little outside interaction.

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There are dozens of communes out there that seem to work fine. I'm not particularly pro-commune but it is very disingenuous just shotgunning all of them with your expectations of failure when many communes have been running for 30+ years, and Cuba has been doing about as well as the capitalist countries of latin america even through all the sanctions that made that government unable to trade with almost any other.

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As I said people can choose to form a collective collony or group and make it work as long as it is  volentary. But of course then it would be Capitalism and not Socialism and it does not scale well.

As far as Socialist or Communist countries they always result in misery for the people and  collapse. I oppose sactions on whole countries as they harm the people and give the Dictators a scape goat.

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Yeah, most European countries have what's known as "Social Market Economy" which is based on the free market. It's basically impossing socialist laws without changing ownership, just putting limits to the private hands. Because in the end it doesn't matter if the means of production are privately or socially owned as long as some social limits are impossed .This prevents huge monopolies from raising up and killing the small companies (in a way, protecting social welfare is the best way to protect capitalism).

Sadly, because US does not care so much about protecting social welfare, huge international companies based on the US rise up to eat up market, mess up with the competition internationally and more than once have clashed with the antimonopoly laws in Europe, or have to conform to things like the GDPR and other European social laws.

The fear the US has to socialism seems to have creeped into any kind of social reform, and any mention of social measures often gets automatically identified with communism as if they were equivalent. There's the irrational belief that it's impossible to have any form of social reform that doesn't lead to authoritarianism, and when presented with any possitive influence social reforms have had in any country (even in the US) they'll immemdiatelly attribute it to capitalism, or justify it saying that it's still capitalism, without acknowledging that it's thanks to those social reforms that capitalism (and economic competition) was healthy.

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