yeah I get that but I think there is a misunderstanding here
"if you allow to meet aire and pass bracelet, then start the dialogue over"
I didn't start any dialogue over - I think
saved and visit her first time in the cell - always faild
raised the charm attribute some - here response changed and the guild leaded suggested bringing aire over
did that - they talked - gave her the bracelet
saved and then tried the 2nd dialogue part for the first time (which is different from the first half)
and when she rejects there I reload the save and not using the bug to start over
so I'm not sure if we mean/think of the same in terms of starting the dialogue over - or do you lose the boni even when you reload a save from before the start?!