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InfiniteDreamer2 years ago (3 edits) (+5)

He does get better and grows as a character.But, I actually like that Cam(the MC) has clear flaws and doesn't always make the best decisions in the plot.It makes him feel like an actual character,rather than a just a bland vehicle for porn. I get why that is,at the end of the day the main goal is to fuck the girls,no matter how good plot is.but that doesn't mean there can't be more effort towards making the MC interesting in his own right.

And I think this one does suceed,because despite Cam making unlikable choices,there's enough there that you can empathize with him.Cam's sister(along with many others) basically got kidnapped,he has no clue where she is and by all indications the Sovereiginity was going to ignore it and not do anything to try and search for them.In that situation,I would be frustrated angry,maybe desperate enough to do something crazy. But the same time despite that,he did make choices without considering the consequences and the people who got dragged along have every right to be mad at him and the game acknowledges this.He has to earn their trust back.And you can,by picking the correct options and even then the options don't make them forget everything.

Pretty much every AVN I've played,even the ones I like,have this issue of bland MCs, whose only personality comes with dialogue choices that feel disconnected from the main plot, with the exception being Caribdis' AVNs MCs. So I appreciate another AVN for trying to be different in this area and IMO, doing it well.

Ghost26562 years ago(+2)

I get what you were saying. I really wouldn't to be in put in the same scenario as Cam. It just his decision has put a lot of people in harms way, and may have ruined a family relationship.(I haven't gotten far in the story so I don't know if Kit and his sister reunited with their mom)

I'm really glad to hear that he will get better and grow as a character.

loyal4ever2 years ago (1 edit) (+1)

I just want to say I had the same exact issue as you. MC is a douchebag . Even Thim who was introduced as one, is far more tolerable & decent than MC.

Now I'm in ep11 & MC is still a douchebag in my opinion, but you don't have to like the MC to enjoy the story. I still would rate this game as 5/5 & offer my support to the developer!

InfiniteDreamer2 years ago (4 edits)

Really? I think he does grow as both as a leader and as person. I'm curious to know why you think the MC's still an ass?I personally think that Perverter's done a good job of Cam growing out of his earlier attitude, without making look like he's done 180 in personality,having it be too fast,or the narrative forgetting his actions and not being called out.

And because of the last one happening,he does start to question his actions and show remorse for it and tries to take responsibility for it. Does he always succeed in that? No,but he does try.If he hadn't done that,maybe I would agree with you. I don't know, I think I have more tolerance for characters who start out as assholes,but grow to be better.But it's your opinion. I do agree that the plot and characters are great and do a good job of hooking you!I think the only other AVNs that match the level of the immersivness are Caribdis works.

loyal4ever2 years ago

I hope I didn't come across as criticizing Perverter work. I certain don't have the qualifications nor the abilities to produce a fraction of this amazing piece.

The amounts of thoughtful lore & world building are both impressive & immersive!

Though I might have reserved feelings towards certain characters, which is a normal thing. Just like our feelings in real life to people around us. So this is part of the immersion. but when it comes to the main characters, we have to relate to them to a certain degree at least for the story to kick in smoothly. In a way, in my previous post I only wanted to state my feelings as reader towards the MC.

I'm not saying Cam is not a realistic person. He probably is a spitting image of a real person somewhere. The writing is very believable!

I can't say why I think he's still an ass without going into spoilers. In my perspective, Cam is a person who has been playing a russian roulette & come out unscathed, because of plot armor or whatever. but & he keeps playing it again & again. Basically, most of his actions are still baseless gambles that can endanger others.

It's one thing when a villain put you in dire situation & you have to act immediately to come out of it. but it's another thing when you willingly put others & yourself in a dire situation that anyone can foresee it coming.

and that's where I can't relate to Cam. For the same reason I'm not a fan of Tom Holland's Spider-Man. It's just reckless acts after another, while Ironman has to come to cleanup the mess afterwards.

It gives kids nowadays the wrong idea of bravery. In real life there won't be a "plot armor" that would give you a second chance "to redeem" yourself when things go horribly wrong.

That's just me. I think reckless people shouldn't be glorified as heroes.

InfiniteDreamer2 years ago (2 edits) (+1)

I think that's fair.For you,it's a fundamental disagreement with the character archetype that used for Cam,while for me I don't see that way. I think that comes from the fact that Perverteer is clearly using old pulpy sci fi movies as his inspiration for the tone of the game. you know,like Flash Gordon. While there are serious and emotional moments,TFTUV overall is meant to be a light hearted and fun adventure across the galaxy with lots of action and heroes that are daring or reckless as you call it.

From what you told me, it seems like you less have a problem with Cam as a character and more with how it's treated in the narrative.I think you're looking at the wrong game if you want the narrative to acknowledge the reckless part of his personality in dangerous situations realistically. I feel like for what TFTUV is going for,it does the right amount of calling out Cam for his reckless attitude,without compromising the tone.This isn't a regular Sci-fi where you expect the tone to be fairly serious or a Cyberpunk where for the most part it is.That's just how I feel though. I do appreciate you explaining yourself.

sycopter2 years ago

I think you have it mixed up slightly. The girls where not dragged along at all. He gave them a choice and they accepted knowing to some degree that what they where doing was wrong. There isn't one girl on board the ship by 12b that was not there through their own choice. Dragged along almost implies that he never really gave them a choice in the matter, when we know full well he did. Everyone but him could have stayed behind, which would have meant he would probably have had no choice but to stay behind too. I am not trying to be scratchy or anything.

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