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To Lipstor: Okay, thanks for the clearing that up. Also, I was only curious because I felt that there was some miscommunication among persons involved. I just noticed small errors with your typed English that made me think that English may not have been your native language. What I'm implying is that there may be information literally lost in translation.

I would just like to ask another question in regards your comment about you being with or knowing Mofu for a year. I know this may be a bit personal, but how have you known Mofu? Are you two friends or business partners? I ask because I think clarification may be necessary. I've noticed a lot of harassment here in the comments and I'm afraid that this sort of environment could be harmful to not just the dev, but everyone involved and interested with this game. Of course, if this question, or any other question, is too personal for you to answer, publicly or otherwise, I understand your want for privacy.

Anyways, from my understanding, Mofu is not a native English speaker either, and you seem to be a sort of translator to help get across some of the ideas Mofu has to other language speaking audiences, is this correct? I've come to this conclusion since it seems there's been a lot of breakdown on communication here and I suspect multiple language barriers, mistranslation, and miscommunication may be the culprit here and that you seem to speak on Mofu's behalf quite frequently.

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King Kaboom2 years ago

Okay Lipstor, thank you. Hopefully clearing this up can help the situation here. Like I said before, I just hope to see a promising game completed and result in a product that is primarily satisfactory for the developer. The idea being that if the developer is satisfied with the end result, others will also be satisfied. After all, Mofu is an independant developer, so they don't have to worry about deadlines, publishers pushing for changes in content, or shareholders' bottom lines. So in this case, I think that the best choice of judgment and the one that should get final say-so in development, should be Mofu themself.

As for you Lipstor, it seems the negative comments and general hostility towards you may be pressuring you into responses? While it's a valiant effort to try to respond to everyone, I think if people are calling you names or otherwise being beligerent, perhaps you should withhold replying to them, at least until you able to think of a way to reply that will attempt to de-escalate the situation. I'm not saying you haven't made mistakes, though. Although, from what I read, I doubt that any mistakes or misconduct that you have committed are serious enough to warrant how harshly people are treating you. If they want answers, they should reply in a polite and concise way, such as I have. Of course, I know not everyone is capable of making long structured responses such as this, but at the very least courtesy should be exercised. Avoid using sarcasm or vague speech, try to be concise with what you say, even if it means that you have to research a word or two, a few seconds to make a clear message now can save hours of argument later.

Anyways, sorry for my long messages, but I just wanted to do my best to fully explain my thought and logic. Ultimately this is a forum for a cool NSFW Futa themed game and I don't think people should be getting so heated over this. Passion is good, but it doesn't justify poor behavior. I think it may be a good idea to take a break and relax for a short time, tensions seem to be high. I'm also willing to hear out other people's thoughts if time permits, I just want to get things back into a civil and positive atmosphere. Thank you for reading.

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King Kaboom2 years ago

Lipstor, I do have more questions. Could you get Mofu to confirm your claim of them saying it is okay for you to reply on their behalf? Or at the very least, provide a quote and source indicating that Mofu is okay with you replying on their behalf? Most of what you are saying seems logical and makes sense, but it's a bad habit to only take people's words at face value. I just want a source of confirmation for your claim, I feel it is important for providing context and confirming that what is being said is true.

I would like some proof of these piracy forums as well. I would understand not wanting to provide a direct source to the forum as that could raise unwanted attention to that topic. If you'd like, I could provide an alternative contact to send something like that if you don't want to post the sources to these alleged piracy forums here. I just find it strange that there would be piracy for a game that is currently in a free open beta. Piracy is usually an issue of access and distribution, and I don't see how it's more convenient to pirate the game in its current state versus just downloading the current version directly from its creator's download link. Unless the issue here is that the people pirating it are trying to hide who is actually developing the game and claim it as something of their own creation; if that's the case, putting more branding of who created the game into it could fix that issue. I don't have a lot of information on this, so I can't really provide much more insight on that topic.

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King Kaboom2 years ago (3 edits)

Alright, thank you Lipstor. I did do a search as you suggested and do believe I have found some signs of shady or otherwise unauthorized distribution. I also believe I found this piracy forum you've mentioned. I've read a number of the comments and noticed a criticism that seems to have some validity to it. For example, I see you criticize others for wanting certain content added to the game. However, you have also stated you wanted content added to the game, and like those you criticized, you were upset when you didn't see this addition. The example I found was about some sort of bug with an event that you suggested could be fixed by adding a wall. I've included an image of the relevant message chain. I have highlighted the text you posted that I wanted to have attention drawn to in yellow. I also highlighted a response from Mofu in green that I believe was directed at you, I will explain the significance of this detail later. For now let's focus on your yellow highlighted text saying ". . . Mofu always add others requests, except if it's from me, because I had told him half year ago how to fix an issue with one of the events, and he doesn't want to add something as easy as a wall."

Now, I understand your comment is on a fix for a bug and not main game content. However, Mofu may have their own plans on how to address this bug. As indicated by Mofu's quote "I have never excluded your request. I respect you very much." it seems that Mofu never intended to disregard your suggestion and make you seem unappreciated, and in fact it seems they respect you. Mofu is not a native English speaker, so I can't be for certain if what they've said is accurate to what they mean, though. Also Lipstor, even if what you said in the quote was meant to be some form of sarcasm or hyperbole, it would seem that such context was lost on Mofu in this situation. Overall, this comment could make you seem pushy, or bitter that content you want for the game wasn't added in a quick manner. This is similar to other's complaints about wanting content added, but in their situation, you tell them to stop asking for such content. So people start getting angry and seeing a sort of "double standard" where they're not allowed to ask for this or that to be added to the game, but you deem that you are allowed to push for certain content. (continued in another post)

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King Kaboom2 years ago (2 edits)

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I also have another image that I think shows off my suspicion that misinterpretation could also be causing a lot of issue.

I think in this situation, Sorata was right with believing that they "sensed either mockery or sarcasm in your question." I believe that you were trying to imitate the people who ask Mofu for content to be added to the game and then insist that it must be in Mofu's best interest to add said content in to the game when Mofu considers their request. However, it seems that it's been established that Mofu is a crowd pleaser, and may actually make decisions that are detrimental to both themself and the game in an attempt to satiate all of the commenters requests. So by asking this question, you were trying to point out that Mofu is easy to persuade into making decisions and that this aspect of Mofu could hurt game development if people keep pressing for certain changes. Of course, my entire assumption here could be incorrect. The possibility that both my interpretation of the following posts and Sorata's could both be plausible indicates that there may be issues with communication. Sarcasm and certain figures of speech can easily be misiniterpreted on the internet, which is why it is important to very clearly state your position on certain topics. Lipstor, I'm not trying to hurt your image or insult you, I'm just trying to provide knowledge and context for these occurences. Feel free to add further context or attempt to correct any statements I've made. Anyways, I've noticed both here and on the piracy forum, that a lot of people have been losing interest in this game because of troublesome threads and hostility in the comments. I'm worried this could lead to the game being further set back. Despite the ongoing issues in the comments sections, I've also seen people both here and on the piracy forum who want to see this game be completed and satisfying to play. I'm trying to operate in the best interest of those who want to see a new and promising game reach completion. I apologize for the long posts, but I feel it is necessary in order for me to clearly and concisely explain my thoughts on these topics. Thank you to those who've read this far.

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King Kaboom2 years ago

Well, they haven't responded to my post yet, so lets give them the benefit of the doubt here for now, yeah? As for the piracy forum being mentioned, I'm not going to post any direct links to it. I found a link to the forum I'm referencing on the first page of my Google results when using an incognito Firefox browser window and searching "futaken valley free", Omit the quotes. Try searching the results yourself and see what you find. Although, I caution you to do so at your own risk, there seems to be some untrustworthy sites that pop up when using that search.

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