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King Kaboom2 years ago (3 edits)

Alright, thank you Lipstor. I did do a search as you suggested and do believe I have found some signs of shady or otherwise unauthorized distribution. I also believe I found this piracy forum you've mentioned. I've read a number of the comments and noticed a criticism that seems to have some validity to it. For example, I see you criticize others for wanting certain content added to the game. However, you have also stated you wanted content added to the game, and like those you criticized, you were upset when you didn't see this addition. The example I found was about some sort of bug with an event that you suggested could be fixed by adding a wall. I've included an image of the relevant message chain. I have highlighted the text you posted that I wanted to have attention drawn to in yellow. I also highlighted a response from Mofu in green that I believe was directed at you, I will explain the significance of this detail later. For now let's focus on your yellow highlighted text saying ". . . Mofu always add others requests, except if it's from me, because I had told him half year ago how to fix an issue with one of the events, and he doesn't want to add something as easy as a wall."


Now, I understand your comment is on a fix for a bug and not main game content. However, Mofu may have their own plans on how to address this bug. As indicated by Mofu's quote "I have never excluded your request. I respect you very much." it seems that Mofu never intended to disregard your suggestion and make you seem unappreciated, and in fact it seems they respect you. Mofu is not a native English speaker, so I can't be for certain if what they've said is accurate to what they mean, though. Also Lipstor, even if what you said in the quote was meant to be some form of sarcasm or hyperbole, it would seem that such context was lost on Mofu in this situation. Overall, this comment could make you seem pushy, or bitter that content you want for the game wasn't added in a quick manner. This is similar to other's complaints about wanting content added, but in their situation, you tell them to stop asking for such content. So people start getting angry and seeing a sort of "double standard" where they're not allowed to ask for this or that to be added to the game, but you deem that you are allowed to push for certain content. (continued in another post)

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King Kaboom2 years ago (2 edits)

(Resumed from a prior post)
I also have another image that I think shows off my suspicion that misinterpretation could also be causing a lot of issue.


I think in this situation, Sorata was right with believing that they "sensed either mockery or sarcasm in your question." I believe that you were trying to imitate the people who ask Mofu for content to be added to the game and then insist that it must be in Mofu's best interest to add said content in to the game when Mofu considers their request. However, it seems that it's been established that Mofu is a crowd pleaser, and may actually make decisions that are detrimental to both themself and the game in an attempt to satiate all of the commenters requests. So by asking this question, you were trying to point out that Mofu is easy to persuade into making decisions and that this aspect of Mofu could hurt game development if people keep pressing for certain changes. Of course, my entire assumption here could be incorrect. The possibility that both my interpretation of the following posts and Sorata's could both be plausible indicates that there may be issues with communication. Sarcasm and certain figures of speech can easily be misiniterpreted on the internet, which is why it is important to very clearly state your position on certain topics. Lipstor, I'm not trying to hurt your image or insult you, I'm just trying to provide knowledge and context for these occurences. Feel free to add further context or attempt to correct any statements I've made. Anyways, I've noticed both here and on the piracy forum, that a lot of people have been losing interest in this game because of troublesome threads and hostility in the comments. I'm worried this could lead to the game being further set back. Despite the ongoing issues in the comments sections, I've also seen people both here and on the piracy forum who want to see this game be completed and satisfying to play. I'm trying to operate in the best interest of those who want to see a new and promising game reach completion. I apologize for the long posts, but I feel it is necessary in order for me to clearly and concisely explain my thoughts on these topics. Thank you to those who've read this far.

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King Kaboom2 years ago

Well, they haven't responded to my post yet, so lets give them the benefit of the doubt here for now, yeah? As for the piracy forum being mentioned, I'm not going to post any direct links to it. I found a link to the forum I'm referencing on the first page of my Google results when using an incognito Firefox browser window and searching "futaken valley free", Omit the quotes. Try searching the results yourself and see what you find. Although, I caution you to do so at your own risk, there seems to be some untrustworthy sites that pop up when using that search.

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King Kaboom2 years ago

You must be thinking I was talking about Mofu. No, when I said, "Well, they haven't responded to my post yet. . ." I was refering to Lipstor. They haven't responded to my posts pointing out how some of the criticisms aren't completely unfounded. I was saying that Lipstor should be given some time to respond to my posts before we make any accusations. After all, it would undermind my efforts to understand what Lipstor meant in their posts if I didn't wait for them to acknowledge my prior posts before making any sort of accusations.

As for your claims of Lipstor having "some fans covering up for his [Lipstor's] fucking behavior" and this apparent suicide threat that Lipstor has made, would you please provide some source for these claims?

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King Kaboom2 years ago

I've found some posts that could indicate that this is true.





Unfortunately, since the original comment made by Lipstor was apparently deleted, the only way to gather more information on this would be to address Lipstor directly. Out of respect for their privacy and mental health, as well as my lack of expertise on such a touchy subject, I don't think I should pursue this line of questioning. I do note that I see nobody accusing Lipstor of using suicide as a persuasion tactic against Mofu nor do they state any reason other than stress and a bad mood for why Lipstor would have considered suicide in the posts I found. Also it seems Mofu themself realized that Lipstor was stressed and needed to calm down. Regardless, it seems that Lipstor decided not to commit suicide and that they have since not made any other posts alluding to wanting to commit suicide. I can't really come to any conclusion on this with the current information I have other than it's good that Lipstor didn't commit suicide, since that would be terribly tragic. Also, constant bullying and people literally saying that Lipstor should kill themself and that nobody loves them could possibly be a factor in their considering of suicide. I'm not going to say that those reasons alone are a good reason to consider suicide, but those two reasons could be compounding with existing conditions for Lipstor. I don't believe we should so lightly blame Lipstor without the full picture of their living situation, which they have no obligation to, nor do I expect them to, provide. However, this is all mostly speculation on my part, so I would understand any criticism that comes my way for this analysis.
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King Kaboom2 years ago

I wasn't excusing Lipstor's behavior in these situations. You do have a point that a public forum for a NSFW futanari focused erotic video game is not a great place to mention suicidal tendencies. That sort of topic is difficult for many people and can create a negative mood. Topics of suicide are best discussed with personal friends, family, or professionals in private environments. Directly dealing with your claim, "I don't think a bad life is a reason for one to hurt others easily. . ." I don't believe a bad life is an excuse for hurting others either, and I wasn't trying to claim otherwise. As for your claim of "I bet there are some more miserable people in the world than him,so could they do harm to others?" How miserable a person is is hard to quantify, and at any given moment someone could have it worse than someone else. I don't think that argument really adds anything to this topic. Of course, if this was just a rhetorical question, then I get it, but it's hard to convey that in text and can lead to misinterpretation. I have to object to your claim that "nobody cares whether a person is sick or not . . ." I feel that not taking into account that someone is sick is refusing to acknowledge a possible reason or variable for their behavior, which can lead to a loss of context. Let me make it clear that I do not believe that someone should be absolved of responsibility even if they do have some sort of sickness, though. I must also object to your claim that nobody cares about ". . . what a person really thinks." Not caring about what a person really thinks, and not seeking the explanation behind their reasoning seems like a large deal of what has spurred on this conflic to begin with. I've been saying that a breakdown of communication is what seems to be happening here and that not caring what someone really think could be a major factor of that.

I would also like to address the character of this "wind" or Wind blowing on summer individual as well. I have seen them post quite nasty things in regards to Lipstor. I'll show the post I had cited earlier as an example.

You stated yourself that you ". . . don't think a bad life is a reason for one to hurt others . . ." However, you admit that you believe that Wind was in a bad mood yesterday. So if I understand your logic correctly, it should not be right for Wind to say that Lipstor was supposed to have committed suicide and that they believe that nobody likes or loves Lipstor. I'm not just saying its Wind who should stop bullying, and I don't care who started the bullying because I believe everyone needs to stop with the name calling and taking things out of context. Everyone here is equally responsible for upholding a civil and organized discussion. In fact, discussion should mainly be focused on Futaken Valley itself. The only reason I've been addressing these drama issues is because I believe that the drama itself is affecting Futaken Valley's status and its developer Mofu. Of course, it's ultimately Mofu who will let us know how or if the conflicts have been affecting them, after all they are capable of expressing their own thoughts.

I'd like to ask you another question, Yamaho. What is your purpose for being involved with this game's comments section and community?

I mean no disrespect towards you and I respect that you've given me your time, Yamaho. I do appreciate that you are explaining your position, knowledge, and insight of this situation.

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King Kaboom2 years ago

I can agree with these points. As I've said earlier, Lipstor should be discussing their mental health in private, either with friends, family, or professionals. I think you're right that it's probably not best to post one's personal mental health issues online. After all, not everyone wants to hear about someone else's struggles with mental help, especially in a forum that has nothing to do with the topic. I agree that the dev should have more respect for their own views and goals for their game. I did mention earlier that "I think the most important person to please in this situation [individually developing a game] would be yourself [Mofu]." Especially since I don't think it's possible for the dev to please everyone in this situation, at least not in a reasonable time frame or manner. I do wish to caution you however, Yamaho, that I think it would be best for you to make sure that you're not contributing to off-topic or otherwise hurtful discussion. Just, try to be mindful and civil and to stay on the topic of the game's development. Thanks for taking the time to read my comment.

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