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Please do not try to explain English to me. You do not know English and your machine translation obviously does it wrong. 

https://itch.io/games/tag-space

Space

The larger universe outside of Earth's atmosphere. Sometimes really, really far outside of it.

You try to cite the description on itch for the tag "3d", yet you failed to look at the description of the tag "space". Your screenshot put "space" as an explanation of "3d". That was wrong and very funny. Instead of laughing you try to insult me again. You have no manners.

If the blue written word would have been "spatial" it would have been ok. Spatial is to 3d what flat is to 2d. The other blue written words were not any better. It is was bad translation.

No one uses the word spatial in the context of number of dimensions.

Really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension

Time is different from other spatial dimensions as time operates in all spatial dimensions. Time operates in the first, second and third as well as theoretical spatial dimensions such as a fourth spatial dimension

And even here https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE%D...

"Пространственные измерения: классические физические теории описывают трёхмерные физические измерения."

"Spatial dimensions: Classical physical theories describe three-dimensional physical dimensions."

A platformer in which the environment and character are flat pictures (sprites), completely 2D. A game where the character or the background (or all together) is a three-dimensional model is a three-dimensional game.

I disagree. If you would sell me a "3d platformer game" and would sell me a game that exchanged the sprites for 3d models, I would demand my money back. Also, the 3d models are also flat to you, they are just rendered very often instead of being sprites. Speaking of sprites, the 2d sprites I know, that are animated, do not look flat. 3d in this case is about the rendering and the use of the 3d features of the engine. It is not about the game play. 

Oh, and it even is a suggested tag (without description no less) https://itch.io/games/tag-3d-platformer

Probably in a drawer labeled "kitchen" or "utensils." That's it, you've already put the plate in that category, you only have one plate, you can't put one item in two different categories

But you have the choice. It fits several categories. And if you and your friend pack those boxes, you might put the plate in kitchen and your friend in utensils. No one is wrong. And for digital things you do can put them into both boxes at once.

You got the tags right. That is labels you put on boxes. You can also not attach labels to the box. And they can be put on the wrong box or you can have a fight with your friend what label to put on which box or what to write on the label or what crayon to use.

Then you argue kitchen is wrong, because the inside of the box is in fact not a kitchen, but utensils for the kitchen. And your friend insists, the labels have to say where the boxes go, you insist the content has to be labeld, and then you go argue about the meaning of kitchen, as it as some do eat in a kitchen and others only cook there, so why would need a plate in a kitchen, you need it the dining room.

Where in that tag does it say this game has to be for adults?

And this is, what you fail to understand. It is not about the actual word, it is about the expectancy people have, when reading the word. 3d is a historical term that was used when cpu/gpu manufacturer came up with it as a marketing word. "3d accelleration". They could have used any other word, even virutal reality. 3d is what stuck and it was used for a while. But as I have shown, it is not used anymore. Words change meaning. And what once was 3d is now split into third-person, first-person, walking-simulator and the old word 3d is more and more used by things that only feature stuff that is 3d. Maybe it was always used by such games, but since actual 3d games do not use this tag anymore, they became visible.

 It's a three-dimensional game. Is it first-person or third-person?

This is the wrong question. You have to wonder, what the developer thinks people will use to find the game. What will the developer think is important to say about the game. Or what will the users think is important to say about the game. Or what will a site admin think is important to say about the game. It is not about any correct definition of the game. It is always opinion. But the difference is, where you release the game and who does the tagging.

So go to Steam and look up the tags. You will see the vote of the users, what are the most important tags for the game. If it is on Steam.

If the tag description doesn't fit, then why won't they change it?

Change it yourself. I am serious. Click the suggestion button and give a better description. And mind you, they are asking for descriptions. And not definitions. Itch is user driven. That includes you. Arguing about any meaning of 3d will not help. People, including me, have a different opinion than you.

There's no tag that can perfectly replace the 3D tag.

You got it! Not even 3d can replace 3d. The tag is outdated and should not be used. It is not important information. Not since every smartphone can compute 3d.

find me some 3DCG games that are not adult games

Look at the visual novel plus 3d combination on Steam. Most of those games are non adult and 2d with 3d renders. If you cannot find those, you did not look.

Or just look here, you lazy person. You have to deselect the adult content in your settings!!! You can also try some rpg combination. But "3dcg" games that are not adult will tag their story and not that they have pictures.

https://itch.io/games/genre-visual-novel/tag-3d

Why doesn't the 3DCG tag have a description?

Why is there no description for the 3d platformer tag?

Did you submit a suggestion for the description for either of them? No? There is your answer. No one cares!

Space

Now, asshole, look up how "space" translates.

Really?

Really. Here's an article for you, see the word "пространвство" in here?

Three-dimensional space, geometry paper. What were you telling me?

spatial (пространственный)

I can't even find an example with the word "spatial" in it. Except "пространственный тоннель." And that translates to "space tunnel."

"Пространственные измерения: классические физические теории описывают трёхмерные физические измерения."

I disagree.

I don't care if you disagree. When the character on the screen is spritely, it's noticeable. When it's three dimensional, it's just as noticeable. You can tell the difference between a sprite character and a drawn character. And not just in games. In animation there are moments of mixing drawn characters and modeled on the computer in 3d. You can see the difference especially in movement. Even in manga you can see the difference between a drawn character and a modeled one.

Here are some examples of modeled manga



And these are examples of drawn manga




Is there a difference?

Oh, and it even is a suggested tag (without description no less) https://itch.io/games/tag-3d-platformer

And moreover, a game with the tags "3d" and "platformer" is not the same as a game with one tag "3d platformer". Platformer means that the game is in the platformer genre. 3d means that the game is three dimensional. And 3d platformer means it's a 3D platformer. There's a big difference. Take Mario, for example. Super Mario Odyssey is a 3D platformer with a third-person view. It can be tagged with the single tag "3d platformer". At the same time, in one of the parts of Mario (I don't remember exactly which one) there were elements on the level in which the game became two-dimensional, that is, the graphics as before was three-dimensional, but Mario could only move left and right, as in classic games on 8-bit console. But that was a separate element on the level, in general, the whole game is three-dimensional. But if there was a game with three-dimensional graphics but two-dimensional gameplay, it could be labeled with two tags "3d" and "platformer", but the tag "3d platformer" here is no longer suitable.

Another example is the game Nier Automata. It's three-dimensional. But in some cases the camera is placed on top or on the side of the character, turning the gameplay into 2D. But the game is still three-dimensional.

Another example. Crash Bandicoot. Is it a platformer, with three dimensions? Or a 3D platformer?

And for digital things you do can put them into both boxes at once.

Then it would no longer be called a category. It's something else.

or you can have a fight with your friend what label to put on which box

That's true. But the difference is that in this example, there are no established rules about what labels to put on a box of dishes when moving to a new apartment. There's no such thing. Large moving companies may have their own rules about how boxes should be labeled, and they follow them. But me and my friend don't have any rules yet.

And in the case of games, there are already rules that are followed on some sites. And even a person who is not familiar with these rules can easily guess what it is about by looking at the name of the label or its description. That's how people learn new words. From the pronunciation (spelling) and the context in which they see the word for the first time.

3d without context means three dimensions. 3d manga and 3d video means style. The style of "drawing" even though it's not actually drawn. A 3d game originally appeared specifically as a three dimensional game. Because before this term games were two-dimensional or textual (without graphics). And here relatively recently began to appear 3DCG games and people are confused. They are already used to calling such pictures 3d. But the game is two-dimensional with 3D pictures. So the game is 3d? But there are two dimensions?

Confusion. We should call this kind of game 3DCG.

And what once was 3d is now split into third-person, first-person, walking-simulator and the old word 3d is more and more used by things that only feature stuff that is 3d.

Who decided that? YOU? You personally decided that word is no longer in use? Who are you to personally decide that? I use this word, my environment, my acquaintances use this word and on the Internet it is actively used on the sites I use. What makes you think it's not used anymore? On the contrary, what you wrote, first person, third person and even more so walking simulator. I very rarely encounter such definitions. I never say in a conversation with a friend, "I bought a cool first person shooter yesterday and played it all night". It doesn't happen. I either just say "shooter" or the name of the game. A shooter already implies that it's first-person. Otherwise I specify whether it's a shoulder view shooter or an overhead view shooter. And this is the first time I've heard of walking simulators. I don't know what that is. There are games where it's not really important to specify whether there is 3d or not. If it's a strategy game, I don't care if it's sprite graphics or three-dimensional. As long as it is good. In platformers or metroid games it doesn't really matter if it's three dimensional or two. In souls games it doesn't matter, in horror games it doesn't matter, in roguelikes it doesn't matter either. In quests it doesn't matter all the more. In general in AAA games it doesn't matter, as a rule they are all three dimensional. But in some indie games it is very important to have three-dimensional graphics.

So go to Steam and look up the tags. You will see the vote of the users, what are the most important tags for the game. If it is on Steam.

You're a total asshole. I've told you more than once. Don't use stim as an example. It's for big games. Not for indies. 3DCG games are unpopular there. Are you so dumb you can't understand a word? I've told you more than once to stop writing about Steam!

And you can shove the developers' opinions up your ass. They can add the tag 3d to their games where there is no three-dimensionality to attract attention. Why? Because the tag is popular and in demand. It's a stone in your favor that no one uses the tag. On paid sites like Nutaku games are paid, and the site itself is important to sell as many games as possible, so you can lie about the three-dimensionality of the game. 

Change it yourself. I am serious.

I did it a long time ago. On the first day of our dialog, I offered my description of the 3DCG, 3D game, and 3D tags. I did that a long time ago. And where is the result? There is no result. Apparently game developers don't want to change anything. They are responsible for the tags, not the site administration.

Not since every smartphone can compute 3d.

Why did you write that? What's the point? If every smartphone can handle 3d, then the tag is unnecessary? I don't understand you. 

Look at the visual novel plus 3d combination on Steam.

Here we go again. Fuck you and your stim. I don't need no fucking steam. We're not talking about steam right now. Why the fuck do you keep referring to steaming?

https://itch.io/games/genre-visual-novel/tag-3d

I guess I was right, you are dumb.

Did you look at the search results on that link yourself? 90% of the games there are 3DCG. And I don't need that! I only want 3D games. I've been talking to you for a week and you still don't get it?

Why is there no description for the 3d platformer tag?

You're really really dumb. I don't care about that tag. Are you capable of answering my question or not? You asshole!

By the way clown, since you like your favorite steem so much, here's a tag from steem that you probably didn't know about. "Псевдотрёхмерность" (Pseudo three-dimensionality).

https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=4975

I guess this could be considered some sort of analog to the 3DCG tag

Your post above is misunderstanding and distorting quite a lot. And I do not care, if that is because your translation method is utterly crap or because you are trolling, at this point. Your constant insults make it clear, that you do not want a discussion. Especially your refusal to accept that there are other opinions.

I do not get how you try to defend that translation of 3d to space. It is a translation blunder. You can cite all you want in russian. It is English that I am talking about. What you think those words mean in russian does not count for anyhting! Get this in your head. If you gonna put 3d near space and say one is a word to describe the other and the context is games, you will get laughed at. It is wrong. Space in that context is in the meaning of outer space. At best you could use the adjective, and this is spatial or spacious. Or how do you call the big long key on your keyboard that makes the empty thing between letters? In English this is the space key. Is this now a three dimensional entity or what?

I am guessing your browser put that there or the site had autotranslation, because you later posted something with russian blue letters below the 3d.

Do you not see, that your method of looking up the things on the internet translates badly?!

Just look at your confusion about words like category. Or the translation for 2.5D (that is the tag for your pseudo threedimensinonal. Are you gonna argue now, that there is no such thing as half dimensions?)

It is words and they mean what people use them for. Your disbelief will neither change this, nor the fact that all this is opinion and not some dictionary defintion. Even dictionaries only write up how people use words. If meanings change or words get additional meaning, they update their definition. Yet somehow you want to apply more strict rules to mere game tagging.

Especially your refusal to accept that there are other opinions.

Opinions at odds with reality? Yes, I refuse to accept that.

 You can cite all you want in russian. It is English that I am talking about.

What the fuck do you mean the site you're daring me to use is Russian? That blue text on the Russian site says. Are you so stupid you don't understand? And since the site is Russian, I'm quoting Russian for you to understand. But to no avail.

If you gonna put 3d near space and say one is a word to describe the other and the context is games, you will get laughed at

Of course of course, three dimensions of space is ridiculous.

Or how do you call the big long key on your keyboard that makes the empty thing between letters?

"Пробел"

Oh I didn't want to bring this up but you made me. Why does one word in English have only different ones? Here I have shown five different Russian words that are equally translated into English. THE SAME, KARL! And there's a funny word combination - "космическое пространство". How does it translate into English? "Space space"? Funny language.

It is words and they mean what people use them for. Your disbelief will neither change this, nor the fact that all this is opinion and not some dictionary defintion. Even dictionaries only write up how people use words. If meanings change or words get additional meaning, they update their definition. Yet somehow you want to apply more strict rules to mere game tagging.

What's the point of your words if you don't know what they mean? You still can't give me a definition of what 3D and 3DCG are. And why did you even bring 2.5D into it if it was never mentioned at all?

Opinions at odds with reality?

You have fundamental misconceptions. What you talk about is not reality. It is not physics. Not even mathematics. It is language. It is usage of words. If you are of the opinion, that the earth is flat, then your opinion is at odds with reality. If you are of the opinion that "Xmas" is appropriate to use as a label for the winter solstice, then so be it. Others might complain, and have different opinions. But in the end, it is opinion.

You refuse to accept "3d" as a label for three dimensionally rendered pictures not because the term means different, but because you are of the opinion that it only applies for a game world rendered in real time with three dimensional graphics. The term itself does not give this meaning. It is your preconception, your opinion, that does so. The term does not even say anything about time or perspective. Or if it is describing the game-world, the graphics or other aspects.

So tell me, where does it say, that 3d is only for games that have real time graphics that is rendered in 3d? If you want to exclude 3d rendered pictures, you cannot do this by the term alone. And this is true, even if you rename the term to "3d game".

The key named "Пробел" has the name "space bar" in English. A direct translation of "Пробел" would be gap. Just an illustration why arguing about the meaning of a word, by looking at the meaning in another language does not work.

"космическое пространство". How does it translate into English? "Space space"?

Depends on your translator. It means "outer space". Just click the russian wiki for that term and there click on other language. But because English are lazy, they will call the gap key "space", the will call the universe "space" and they even give "space" to each other when keeping a distance.

Oh, and the 2.5D tag was mentioned by you. https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=4975 This is 2.5D in English Steam. Pseudo-3d would be a good description for it, but it is just not a popular term.

You have fundamental misconceptions. What you talk about is not reality. It is not physics. Not even mathematics.

Of course, of course, of course. It's not physics or math. It's just geometry. Are you really that stupid?

The term itself does not give this meaning.

And after saying that, you take offense when I call you stupid? You're stupid! Can the term three dimensions mean something other than three dimensions? Only a stupid person would write such nonsense. And you fit the definition of such a stupid person.

The term does not even say anything about time or perspective.

What's time got to do with it? Space time is already four dimensions. We're talking about three. Also, what does perspective have to do with it? Perspective has been around since long before the advent of electronic computers. But we don't call it 3D.

So tell me, where does it say, that 3d is only for games that have real time graphics that is rendered in 3d?

The tag itself says it DUMB YOU BARAN! THREE DIMENSIONS! Where do you see three dimensions in the picture? NOWHERE! If it's a rendered picture, then say "3D RENDER" but not "3D GAME"!

Just click the russian wiki for that term and there click on other language.

And what do I see? Outer space (or simply space)

So космос is space. And пространство is space. And пробел is space. And космическое пространство is space. That's great!

Oh, and the 2.5D tag was mentioned by you. https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=4975 This is 2.5D in English Steam.

I didn't write a word about English Steam.


And what was it you were telling me about the word "spatial"? I go to your wiki, and why isn't there a single word for "spatial"? But the word "space" is there all the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-dimensional_space

And here's another thing, clown. You're the one who wrote that 3D also means stereoscopic games that need to be played with glasses. For such games in Steam there is also a tag - "3D Vision". So do not confuse stereoscopic games and three-dimensional games.

You also said that in Stim the tag 3D marks games without three-dimensional graphics. You know what's funny? It's the players themselves who put those tags. If a lot of players put a new tag to a game, this tag will be assigned to that game. And nobody in Steam moderates it. And vice versa, if a game receives a lot of complaints about a tag, it will be removed.

So it's illiterate players like you who add a tag to 3D games without 3D. If I find a few thousand accounts who will raid the Steam store together with me and put a new 3DCG tag on some games, this tag will be fixed in the Steam store.