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AnotherBoris1 year ago (1 edit) (+1)(-8)

I'm sorry, I don't quite catch the general idea of your statement. Do you agree that this is not the first mysterious resource in the game? That these are the resources that are definitely there, as they are required for upgrades, but the player does not know how to get them - there are more than one in the game. So it makes sense to talk about the systemic nature of the phenomenon. And now I will say again what I am being ignored on this resource over and over again :) And the author knows! He is not an idiot, and he, for example, guessed that three or four years. necessary to complete this game, no one will play it. They'll quit sooner. That one key per week is catastrophically small. That events with a frequency of a year break the players' brains. At least he suspected all this. And he built it into the game anyway. He has some kind of his own vision of the gameplay. And I don't exactly approve of him. I rather hold the position that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Especially the creators. Especially those who are really good at something.

So I'll repeat my thought. I'm a little confused about the purpose of your outrage. I don't believe the author will change this in any way. This is not a mistake, it is an inconvenience, and a pre-punishable inconvenience, which makes it possible to think that this was intended. It's been four months since the release, haven't you figured out exactly what you're playing yet? :)

Grand Dingus1 year ago(+3)

Jesus man, I don't know if it was the intent here, but you sound almost antagonistic towards the dude making this game. I really don't think there is any sort of malicious intent here, most likely just an oversight. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a note does exist, just placed to far ahead (I already encountered a couple of notes in obviously incorrect places, most likely due to moving stuff around in previous updates, like the reworked horde for example).

And yeah, I have no idea what kind of tomfoolery awaits me further ahead (cannot even begin to guess what the hell the keys are that you mentioned) but I really like and vibe with what I've seen so far. So I'm just leaving feedback (the first sentence of the first post is pretty much the whole gist of it)

AnotherBoris1 year ago (1 edit) (-8)

To be honest, I don't see a problem. Well, judge for yourself: the longer you play, the faster you run through the starting levels. And the moment when you get to the 150th without improving the pickaxe is inevitable. Everything depends only on the player's attentiveness, multiplied by his own laziness. There is nothing to remind you about, Scanning will not let the player forget that he did not find obsidian. There is no need to prompt here - from time to time the player must think for himself. There is nothing to fix here because fixing something that is not broken is a very bad decision. There is, in fact, no subject for discussion here. The only thing is, someone may want to take the easy way and ask for advice from those who have already solved this problem. Actually, I gave you this advice from the very beginning, without really understanding what exactly you want. People constantly want strange things, and when they want it, they also want it on New Year's morning and in a different language...

And yes, I really don't understand something in this world. I'm saying that the author is smart. I'm saying he's prudent. I'm saying that he is able to predict the consequences of his actions. I'm saying he created a great game. I admit that I respect his (and not only his, however) right to self-expression and to have his own opinion. And after all this, it turns out that I sound hostile towards the author? :)

Grand Dingus1 year ago(+5)

Oh, cmon mate, don't chastise me for posting this shit on New Year, you're here with me after all. Let's just agree to disagree on the matter. Either way: happy New Year man!

AnotherBoris1 year ago (2 edits) (-8)

Heh. Well, I'm here because I have friends. One of them decided to read everything that had been said to him over the past couple of months and respond. Here. Now. When 99.9% of the population sleeps after a festive night. After making sure that I regained consciousness. Well, I've regained consciousness, but for some reason I'm not in a good mood :) Out of joy, I decided to see what was happening in the world, and here it is. The Obsidian is gone. It's also an urgent problem. How do I get past here?

> I really like and vibe with what I've seen so far

And yes, I want to answer you in your own words :)

> I just think that what's currently is there is a very poor indicator to judge by

Just a month ago, you were telling me that I shouldn't judge the game, and that everything is still possible to change dramatically soon. And where? Time goes by and nothing changes not only dramatically, but in any way at all, and you yourself suddenly begin to judge the game somehow. It's not good!

And with all this, you condemned me for predicting the inevitability of increasing the duration of prestige cycles. And now what? Where are all these people? Why doesn't anyone tell me that I'm wrong, and that they still use cycles of 1-2 days? Where are all these wonderful guides on how to quickly complete the game, bypassing the years of gameplay I described? You've lost four months, and still haven't even seen the keys. So where is the confirmation of your position? Only the condemnation of mine. Again.

Grand Dingus1 year ago(+4)

Allright man, you're taking this way to seriously. Suppose so do I since it takes two to tango. I can assure you that I ain't condemning anything: not before and most certainly not now (seriously, where the hell am I attacking your opinion here, I'm just stating mine - and on a really minor thing no less). Also I don't want to quickly complete the game, I'm completely fine with the pace of things so far. I just want to open the tab a couple times a day, get my fix of "number get higher" drug and ocasionally open a new feature/mechanic. And that's exactly what I get.

AnotherBoris1 year ago (1 edit) (-5)

I'm just surprised by the logic that people use. You told me a month ago, "Dude, things can change." Firstly, there is a powerful counter-argument "dude, maybe it won't change"! Do you feel the intellectual power of dialogue? But I'm used to thinking well of people until they prove otherwise. Therefore, I assume that your opinion has some basis. And I'm trying to figure out which ones. That is, in your personal understanding, the author made a game in which everything is so long. And then, for some reason, the author will take and redo everything. And, as his fellow programmer, I try to imagine the reasons that would have prompted the author to initially do so in order to redo everything later. The author, in your understanding, likes meaningless work, right? He really likes to do difficult, meaningless work. Without payment. This is probably his favorite part of the process.

Here I imagine how you object to me. "Dude, maybe he'll realize he was wrong. That's so bad. What needs to be done differently." And I immediately imagine the author who made a technically excellent game: non-destructive, without an abundance of bugs, with a convenient interface, etc. But who suddenly did not realize that weeks, months and years are a long time. Well, that's the kind of author we have. Maybe a fragment from an antipersonnel mine is stuck in his head and blocks the sense of time, or maybe he's just an idiot and everything else happened to him by accident. Fools are lucky.

And then I think: but if the author in your understanding is so bruised on the head, why do you think he might change his mind? Well, he's got shrapnel in his head, he doesn't understand these problems of yours! He didn't understand before and he won't understand now. He needs surgery. Doctors' care, a room with soft walls and daily walks in the fresh air.

And it would be nice if you were the only one like that. It's not like that. They complain all the time. That is, annual events are rare for them. Then they lose interest in the game without regular new content. That's something else for a long time. And I begin to explain that the author intended it that way, immediately a wall of misunderstanding.

And, the cherry on the cake. What did you tell me yesterday? That I sound hostile towards the author? Well, it's funny! Your personal position is possible only if the author has problems with his head. And I just have nothing to do with his position. I do not condemn or approve. I'm just playing the game and following the rules he gave us. Well yes. Hostility to the author is coming out of me :) Now let's go back to the very beginning. And also, in response to my description of the mechanics of what is happening, you tried to devalue my conclusions with your "maybe everything will change." You challenge conclusions based on observing the events taking place with your mighty "maybe" based on an insulting opinion about the author. Well, about me, I guess I've done a lot less for you than the author.

Difficult. Even with my principles, it is very difficult to treat a person who thinks and acts like this well.

Now, as for the message under which we correspond. "I feel like there really should be a note hinting about obsidian". Have you read mining note No. 34? The author informs you in plain text that there will be no more notes. And that was long before obsidian appeared. But you still feel it. And what, may I ask, is your feeling based on? Hints are needed for two purposes. Do not let a person forget about something and give a hint how to solve some problem. A reminder is not needed here - the upgrade menu will not let you forget about obsidian. You don't need a hint either - if you've been playing the game for four months and still haven't understood its logic, that's solely your problem. And I told you about all this right away. Just not so head-on, chewing on every detail.

Of course, you can feel whatever you want. But your problem is that the author feels differently. And you still don't pay him. Not for redoing half the game. not for inserting hints for the sorrowful mind. I'm sorry to have to put it like this, but the ancients said "sapienti sat". I followed their precepts at first.

Grand Dingus1 year ago(+3)

Man, you gotta chill out. There's nothing that I said at any point that warranted such a verbose response, let alone so much passive-aggressiveness. Also so many assumptions: my playtime, me personally needing help with obsidian, me being a miser, my feelings towards the game, even my timezone (well, kinda, very indirectly). And only one of those was on point (yeah, I'm a cheap fuck and absolutely should throw a couple $ towards the game). Also here's how my mine notes look atm:

And I'm quite a bit further than first appearance of obsidian.

Anyway that's the last I respond in this chain. Not because I think that response is unwarranted but because I can't shake the feeling that we're going in circles. And also that we're locking horns for no reason - while I very much would prefer not to. You can throw a couple more eloquent insults calling me a moron if you so desire, but I have no beef with you. And I'm sorry if I offended you at any point.

AnotherBoris1 year ago(-5)

And? You're postulating a thought again, from which nothing follows. Well, I made a mistake with the moment of the appearance of record 34. And what does this change in what I have said? What does this change about what you said? Or maybe we should take the most obvious option? Is this the only time you can object to me? Actually, that's why I avoided dialogue. Your so-called opinion, in which you remain - you can't say anything in support of it, and you don't want to justify it in any way. And you don't give a damn that you offend people with your behavior. Not me-I haven't given a damn about such things for a long time. The developer, for example. That's what he's for? He's a great guy, that's the game he made for us. However, I have already heard explanations on similar situations many times. "I didn't want to offend him, so he has nothing to be offended about." Iron logic, yes.

Meanwhile, the essence is simple. I will say one last thing in simple words. Thousands of players have found obsidian themselves. Dozens could not cope and went to look for an answer on the Internet. And they even found him. But you decided to go further. You decided that the author should adjust the game to suit you. Although, in fact, you've already done it too. But you are sure that the game should not be for those who are able to cope with it. and for those who are not capable. Actually, what else is there to discuss? Go in peace. Wait. "Maybe things will be different later."

DarthDie352 days ago

Are you some sort of absurd ChatGPT experiment?

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