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Character stats upgrade

A topic by comuser created Jan 11, 2023 Views: 5,211 Replies: 16

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comuser1 year ago(+1)

ex: growth, physical, magic, wits, charisma, sex

Why does it take the death of another character in order to gain only a single point in stat improvement for those stats ( donor and receiver)? Why not just create a training room using the mansion upgrade so you can train your character? While I am aware that characters can be purchased with ease, I don't want to grind and waste my time trying to sacrifice a lot of character in order to improve a single character ,unless there is another way to upgrade your character? if so pls tell me

Strive4Power1 year ago(+2)(-1)

1. Factor upgrades aren't vital
2. It's a gameplay design decision to make character hunting more appealing

comuser1 year ago

But why does it cost a character to be killed? Sure, it's not critical for the game, and I agree, but instead of only sacrificing, might you suggest an alternative for these upgrades? like factor upgrade can be required for these specific gems, which are difficult to find and can only be acquired through hunting or by paying a high price that appears infrequently in a shop. (a brief confession I'm not really into sacrificing, it seems wrong to me. I always strive for perfection in a character, but not at the cost of the deaths of many other characters.) Of course, this is only my suggestion. whatever happens, I will always like this game and enjoy playing it (ღゝ◡╹)ノ♡

ChrisOwens681 year ago

You aren't sacrificing them, you donate them.

Strive4Power1 year ago

As Chris mentioned, they aren't killed but just given away.

Sweet_Dreams1 year ago(-3)

That part could be made clearer in-game.

And you can't say it's optional, you know perfectionists out there will chase all the sixes. That's how the world works.

As an alternative, you could have freed characters give stat-resources dependent on their overall stats, which can be used to improve existing characters. Mansion upgrades could be used to improve resource gains.

Strive4Power1 year ago(+5)

Existence of perfectionists can't really prove something isn't optional precisely because nothing is optional to them.

qinlongfei1 year ago (2 edits) (+1)(-1)

Personally, I'd argue making a much higher factor ceiling or get rid it all together would have done more to make characters with higher initial stats feel more special than having a very low factor of 6 being the ceiling. Since with the relatively low ceiling and having a bonus for maxing the factor out, it encourages players to pursue perfect 6 with all the character. Having a higher ceiling that would certainly make end game where you could invest in a few brokenly powerful characters the player get personally attached to feel more rewarding. With the current ceiling being relatively low, but forcing player to sacrifice character to raise it regardless if they are killed or sent away within the context of the game, it instead encourage save state hacking. Which is rediculously easy, just very annoy with the text wall physically hurting the eyes.

Same with my problem with the loyalty implementation in the later game versions. It doesn't add more content to make end game more fun. It just add more gate keeping for the early game to make it more tedious and annoying.

P.S.

Sorry about necroing this thread. Didn't realize this discussion happened over half a year ago.

Strive4Power1 year ago(+1)

Changing stat cap would drastically change the balance

qinlongfei1 year ago

I don't think changing stat cap would change the balance of the game that drastically, to be honest. Because it's more about changing the end game than beginning and mid game. To give players something to work on. With a much higher factor ceiling would make having a full team of all 'perfect' characters unviable as it would take too long or get too tedious, which would encourage players to focus on a few characters they love (aka their favorite waifu/husbando) to make them feel more unique... while also make the characters they don't invest more unique as well as they would be differentiated based on their initial stats.

As for the balance of late game... you honestly don't even have to design encounters with broken characters in mind. Just go with what you already planned for the end game. Having brokenly OP character for end game doesn't have to be a bad thing, it can be a reward for players who breeze through any encounters with their favorite waifu/husbando.

But yeah. That's my two cents at least. My opinion is this game right now need more content both for story campaign, and for free play element as well. It doesn't need more quote unquote, 'balancing'. As all it does is gatekeep the content of this game and make everything more tedious and unfun to play.

Strive4Power1 year ago(+1)

I agree that we need more content, but bloating stat factor excessive for the current system and will lead to exactly balancing it (removing traits tied to stat factor, reworking whole gui and factor caps

qinlongfei1 year ago

Honestly. I think For Power's character stats balance was better done than Conquest where each race had its own different prime stats cap rather than a max 6 for everyone. At least it made each race feel somewhat unique, as opposed to Conquest where each character just feel middle of the road when they are maxed out.

Although the class system from Conquest was definitely more interesting than For Power's specialization, and the economy resource is done better. For Power ends up being click the next day button as soon as I realized pumping all initial stats to agility and have characters set to hunt made food a non-issue, and then public performance made money a non-issue.

But I'd still say the 6 max out stats factor for all characters and all races ends up making all the races feel too homongenized.

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Krofgninut1 year ago

From my understanding, the factors in question are not really stats gained from training, but the characters base potential. A character can train a lot to gain stats despite a lack of potential, but that natural talent remains lacking.

Quinteray1 year ago

My two cents: I actually really like the stat donation mechanic, and I like that I now know it's not lethal. Honestly though, the very concept of taking away an aspect of what makes someone special to apply it to yourself is pretty fucked up, but then again this IS a game about slavery and stuff.

VoidSite305 days ago

I must have missed something. Where can I "donate" people to increase my (wit)factor? That option must be hidden, because I cant find it.

vadi92304 days ago

At the slave market

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