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Zortch

Zortch Maxinum against The Alien Brainsuckers 路 By mutantleg

Other platforms and physical release

A topic by pixelpeas created Apr 26, 2023 Views: 694 Replies: 37
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What a great game! I think it deserves more attention. Are there any plans for a Steam or GOG release? You're probably very busy polishing the game right now. If there ever is a physical version I will definitely buy it.

Developer (2 edits)

thank you!
the polishing is  mostly finished (that was what the waiting was about, there are a few planned extras that will be added later e.g. a fov slider)
steam is planned ( so much so I already paid the 100 bucks and waiting for the W8)
GOG I don't bother with (probably won't be accepted anyway )
physical - it would be nice but very unlikely

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I really think GOG is a great thing for DRM free games and they have more and more indie-games (have a look at HROT!). And yes, they decide which games they offer. You can use this easy form to send a request: https://www.gog.com/indie

Physical releases are for games that already have a reputation and some sales. So maybe next year 馃ぉ

Developer (1 edit) (+1)

the game is already DRM free (and I also intend to keep it that way)
I tried to submit Subpar Commander to GOG long ago and I didn't liked the way they rejected it (I guess it's not that a good game in retrospect but still: I do not wish to deal with GOG, sorry)

(HROT is cool but that is besides the point)

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I understand your point with you personal experience. In one or more aspects every publishing platform is evil by not keeping their promises or by stopping services or deleting goods for which money was paid. Make licenses exclusive to ban them from other marketplaces or simply support micropayments. In fact itch.io seems to be the only flawless one.

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If you buy it through Itch will you receive a steam key once it is out on there?

Developer

yes, that is the plan at least

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Great to hear, I gave it a buy!

Developer

thank you, I hope you will enjoy it!

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Does anyone here think the game isn't getting the attention it deserves? I may not be the best advisor because I haven't done much on itch.io myself. Getting the Steam version ready might help. I get emails about new versions but no entries in "My feed". Extra posts could help here and asking players for a positive rating would be ok.

For me, Zortch is better than Hrot and this is getting a lot of attention on Steam right now... ok, it's been there for 2.5 years in early access too.

Developer

I appreciate if you spread the word 馃憤( but I don't want anyone to feel they are obliged to do so)

Hear, hear..
fresh steam update: so far it got accepted (today) 馃憤  now I need to set up the page (after I make sense of all these settings 馃 )

that reminds me: I hear Hrot is complete now? or is it still early access ? 馃

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It left early access the other day! Haven't been able to check out the new content, but I believe it's considered complete now.

Developer

thank you 馃憤 

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Yes, Hrot is released. I'm looking forward to your Steam release!

Developer (2 edits)

thank you! a little update on that: so far everything is ready .. but there is a +5 day wait for a page and build review
 and there is at least a 2 weeks wait after approval (not sure why) if all goes well it will be on steam at earliest on June 5

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Are you going to consider regional pricing on Steam?

Developer

once I make sense of it 馃ゴ
btw what country/region you are from?
(I can tell you what price is set for it right now and you can tell me if you ok with it)

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I'm from Turkey.

Developer

for Turkey it's at 54 Turkish Lira  (+18% VAT)

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It's actually really good. Thanks for your reply, I'm really looking forward to Steam release. I played the demo and the game is so much fun.

Developer

just a heads up, the game is now on steam, the prices can be found here: https://steamdb.info/sub/879335/

Developer(+1)

Update on the Steam front:
the page is now live:  https://store.steampowered.com/app/2443360/Zortch
earliest release is June 8  (due to Steam rules)
I requested keys for everyone who have already bought the game (and will keep you updated on how it goes)

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That is nice to hear. I can't wait to have this on my Steam profile.

Developer (2 edits)

ok, I got the keys, I uploaded the keys.. but on my test account I cannot see a claim key button anywhere 馃
do you see one?
(also I have no idea if they can be activated yet)

edit: turns out for the keys I gave out I need to enable external key access separately one by one - now it seems to work

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I don't see one just yet.

Developer (1 edit)

hmm.. that doesn't sound good .. but lets double check 馃

it should be under Download :

or at least for my test account thats where it is (in your case there should be a button)

do you see anything there? or it's still missing?

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Thank you for the help! It's on my library now!

Developer

Thank you for checking it 馃憤
I guess I should announce it somehow 馃

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It's going pretty well so far, looking at the reviews and ratings on Steam. I hope it turns out really big.

Developer(+1)

it's quite a positive response indeed, I once again need to thank you guys for spreading the word about it 馃憤
funny how I was worried about that the game will be made fun of for the short levels - and then I mostly see people getting lost on level one 馃

You have to have seen the entire level at least once in order to orientate yourself. I myself usually need several passes from different directions for a good orientation.  A medium complexity ensures a good game depth without frustrate the player. I think Zortch does that very well. I only had one moment of frustration, I think it was E1M3, it took me 30 minutes to understand that I have to blast a wall - it was definitely my fault. I like it when there are shortcuts in the level or when you find a key and you are guided to the right door on a different path, I had a lot of such moments in Zortch. At the end of the day, this type of game is a kind of "open world" and the player doesn't always follow the tracks that the level designer intended. For me it was a solid gaming experience.

Developer(+1)

I'm glad you liked it!
I guess it was a good idea to not make it bigger after all - the plan was to make this extremely large multi-level prison and I was considering to remake the whole thing to that at one point 馃
(and the minefield was a long snake-ish looking canyon - turns out going for a realistic area scale is not a good idea 馃様 )

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I just hope so a next levels(At next projects) be still relative big.

Personally I like current scale, smaller levels requires seamless connection and/or backtracking to give comparable impression.

Honestly I am a big fan of huge levels with backtracking in metrodvinia style. (Secret-hunting in addition to reactors/card unlocking with big levels give that feel for me in Zortch without really be metrodvinia)

Developer(+1)

yes it's seems I'm at a sort of crossroads
there are people who love big maze levels with secret hunting and seem to be equally as much who prefer linear ones
with 60 fps I managed to make everyone mad: some people want 120fps and for many it gives sea sickness
and also the 5 usd price is too much for some, too little for others
so far it seems the safest way is to not to complete projects at all as doing so only leads to never ending feature requests 馃

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Hmm, I have no success to give advices, and can't make just single game because beat myself by feature creep.

But IMHO:

For single player game, it's no too hard to use variable timestamp or as dirty way just use smaller phys-timestamp and accumulation. It's give some notable fps spikes with low fps, but I think satisfy more peoples. (Except with really potato PC)

Price, hmm, as people from country with expensive dollar I can told so $2 or $5 makes almost no difference rather than just a free game :P

By my observation, most peoples just buy or pirate game regardless of $2-$5 price...

And as noticed by some devs on steam, yes cheaper games get more sales, but it's give no more profit without being random viral.

And about level size: I think best option to just do what You like yourself enough happy to continue development without burning. As Your current style really fun and unique enough for me and i hope for many more people with steam release. (it's still 26 review at now, but it's still 100% good! And I can remember a lot of steam release with far worst results even at couple of years from release)

Developer (1 edit) (+1)

so far it seems the problem was that the gpus where it occured tried some battery saving maneuver - there used to be some old code you had to add to games for them to be recognized as high perfomance (NvOptimusEnablement etc) but these new video cards seem to ignore it 馃様

it's just that I seen some complaints they thought it was a bad game because it was cheap 馃
(mainstream tactic seem to be to make the price +5 bucks and just reduce it on sales but that seemed to overcomplicate things for me - like why bother if people only want to buy stuff on sale - let it be always on sale - and as usual with my grand ideas it is met with confusion)

Indeed, I'm quite humbled by the response so far - now I feel I should have spent more time on the game and have made a much better and bigger one 馃様

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Your game is much more balanced, stable and polished (and fun) than every AAA title released this year. People (including me) have ideas and suggestions because they love the game, otherwise they wouldn't care. Also, I don't think any point of it is really relevant.

Nobody expects to change the level design now. Optional changes are always cool. I can imagine that 60fps on a 144Hz monitor looks worse than on a 60Hz monitor because it doesn't quite add up. This is a very exhausting topic to juggle game ticks, control timing and optional vsync.

I still have a list of things I would change but I have a feeling you take it as criticism. I will keep spreading the word. I've already "spammed" my subscribed Discord channels. So let's celebrate the Steam release and the positive reactions! 馃コ 

Developer (1 edit) (+1)

thank you! and thank you for spreading the word! 馃憤

feel free to list them 馃憤
(after all they could be taken onboard for the expansion pack 馃)