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(resolved)What do you do when a Jam goes bad and the uploader boots you...

A topic by Danji Isthmus created 19 days ago Views: 200 Replies: 7
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....from the contributor list despite you having made ALL the art assets for the game?

Is it uncouth to out them to warn others? Is itch good about taking the project down if its reported? Or is Itch one of the sites where my lawyer needs to contact them to get the ball rolling?(youtube is like that is why I'm asking, its not a threat)

Thanks for any feedback. This has been one heck of a Jam team. I liked others on the team but the leader has made so many awful choices, one of them being stealing my work.

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Itch has never revealed any information about its inner workings, so my answer is based only on my assessment as a user of Itch and this forum for a few years.

What I have seen is that although the staff is willing to help, it seems to be a very small staff for the volume of people they have to serve, and possibly for that reason, they will never answer you unless necessary and sometimes the time to resolve a dispute can be long.

Normally, they review the information you send them and if you actually prove that the game is using your material without the corresponding permissions, the game will be deleted. This could be tomorrow or within a couple of weeks, depending on how busy the staff is.

The best thing would be to have a lawyer advise you on how to prove your point, but using normal channels. If your lawyer contacts them to threaten them, the most logical thing would be for them to refer the matter to their lawyer and that will only result in much longer delays.

My personal recommendation is that you first talk to the project leader, indicating that if he removes you from the list of contributors, but continues to use your work, you will have to report him.

Also, you can contact the organizers of the JAM, with some exceptions, jams are usually less than 100 people, so it will be faster for the organizer to intercede or even remove the game from the JAM.

And if you do not get anything by talking to the project leader, then contact Itch support, and make sure to put all the relevant background and evidence, so that when they review your ticket, they can resolve it without delay.

PS: When you contact support, you should receive an automatic response with a ticket number. If the case takes too long, you can try to go to Discord with that number to request that they expedite the case.

Would not all this depend on the type of copyright to begin with?

If they agreed to work together for a jam project, this sounds like a joint copyright and that has a lot of consequences. I do not know how or if you can retract your past contributions from a joint copyright.

Also, you can't add contributors to a project. Only admins. So I am assuming OP got booted from the admin list of the project.

Itch.io is a united states corporation so they must follow the copyright laws of this country. Without a written and signed document saying that I revoke my rights to my artwork they MUST credit me. Or they need to replace my assets. Had they left my name on it or replaced my assets, as they own the rights to their code and layout, I wouldn't be here asking.

And when you add someone as an admin it automatically adds someone to the "contributor" list on the game page under "additional Information". There was no credit pasted on the page or in the game.

I am not understanding your grammar. "itch is us corp so they must" ...  "they must credit me". Who must credit you? Why has crediting you anything to do with revoking rights? Giving credit is not the same as copyright. You can't credit someone and suddenly their copyright is void or vice versa, you do not credit them and you break copyright. This is not how this works.

You did not say either way about your credits being removed. You only complained about being removed "from contributor list". Which, on Itch unfortunately is the admin list. They really should separate those functions.

It is good that this has been resolved. 

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I don't understand if you do not speak english as your first language, being serious, as that grammar should make sense to most. If you do not then I understand you may need clarification.

They being the people I worked with in the jam. Giving credit is widely known as the exchange in a free project for the "lease" of copyright. If where you are that is not the case, I admit I'm more used to talking about things to people who understand that. Once credit has been removed I remove my work. No one's hard work should be taken for free and it's a rule in most jams and websites.
You seem to agree with me that the admin and contributor list is the same, so not sure why you are bringing it up as if I'm wrong. You are agreeing with me as I am with you. Moot point.


And yes, this is resolved. I appreciate hechelion 's points, so I figured it was good to leave up, if I find out it's better to remove by a mod I will do so.

This is my last response on this as all I wanted was information and have other things to do. I hope it helped clarify

When you replace a noun with a pronoun and use that same pronoun again without introducing another noun, you still are refering to the same noun you replaced earlier. Which can lead to confusion if that was not intended.

If you talk about bringing lawers in, you shift the discussion to a legal nature and crediting you on page or project has no bearing on this. Giving credits does not replace having copyright or permission. Being decent is a good idea, but having clear agreements is a good idea too. If your agreement is, being credited as "payment" for your contribution, and credit was removed, that is a breach of agreement.

Unfortunately, many people seem to think that giving credits has to do with copyright - so they could just credit something and use it for free. So for anyone reading this by chance: better check your situation carefully. And I kid you not, I have seen naive users upload other people's work and even writing about this in their profile and diligently disclaimering how this is not their work, they just uploaded it... 

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I appreciate all of this information. This thankfully has been resolved, but this is all valuable to know.