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So, I played this a long time ago and was honestly rather lost. I noticed it's been reworked and more added, so I decided to try again. I was still confused early on, but I discovered what's been confusing me so much.

Izar is always referred to as Emperor Izar, but no place name is provided. We aren't told until 100+ pages in that Izar is the emperor of the Virrians in an entirely different galaxy. I spent that entire time thinking he's just a corrupt emperor of the Mitans. That should probably be clarified a lot earlier.

Also, there are several instances where the MC is assumed to have done/been told something that is an option regardless of whether we actually picked that option or not.

Evie91 days ago(+3)

Thank you for the commentary about Izar. I originally thought I implied that he was the ruler of the other galaxy, since the Virrians are mentioned a few times, and the Mitans speak of them as if they’re somewhere else. But after rereading some of the text, I can also see how this might not be clear, so I can go back and clarify.

As for your second point, I’d appreciate if you could name any of the other instances that MC or someone else mentioned information that was not given before? This is something I’ve been trying to avoid, so I’d appreciate if you could pinpoint other instances. Thank you for your feedback, I appreciate your thoughts on Aquarii. ❤️

MarloweC91 days ago (2 edits) (+2)

In the same few scenes. MC mentions Liviana talking to them about a ship. Sure, a ship was mentioned -- once. MC has zero details about it and wouldn't pick it out from a random picture in another galaxy. Speaking of, how does MC even know they're in another galaxy? Literally no one ever mentioned Chronos. MC wouldn't have any idea that's where they are, particularly since the one person they know here is someone they met in Aquarii.

Then when actually speaking to Izar:

MC tells Izar "Answer my original question." even if MC didn't choose to ask any questions.
About Izar killing MC: "You could've sworn everyone around you was telling you that's exactly what he planned to do." No, no one told me that. MC just assumed that. There was an option to ask about it, but no one says anything about it if you don't pick that option.
"Delano told me..." No, I'm pretty sure Delano didn't mention Izar even once. If he did, it was in passing and unremarkable. Not sure if this line changes depending which god you pick? It's particularly strange if it doesn't.
"That, and Emperor Izar keeps saying when the war happens, unlike the gods and the Mitans who say if the war happens." MC has only spoken to one god, very briefly, and neither he nor the Mitans mentioned a war. At all. I'm not even sure that there's an option to learn about this.

I have not played past this point yet.

It has been a week, so MC could have learned some of these things during that time. But if so, it was all off-screen.

There's also a really weird inconsistency where the MC for some reason has no idea how to fight even if you pick all of the several options that imply they're quite skilled with fighting.

Evie91 days ago(+2)(-1)

I’m confused about your first statement about the ship? I’m assuming you’re talking about the one that was used to capture MC and then was destroyed when MC landed in Aquarii. That ship was mentioned multiple times, and MC started the game in that same ship. Unless you’re talking about another ship being built, which various characters also mention how creating another spaceship to take MC home would take a while. Second, I can see how this might not be clear, but MC knows they’re on a different galaxy because they remember flying and landing on a planet that they have never seen before. Even if they may not know they’re on a different galaxy yet, they know they’re in a different world, but they can make the inference that since they were flying, and they’re surrounded by various space equipment, that they may have landed on another planet. But again, I can go back and add details about seeing the black abyss of the universe and the stars when MC watches Allele and Roux escape through an escape pod and when they’re landing on Aquarii.

As for your next few points, yes, all of the stuff about Izar changes depending on which choices you picked. That is another thing I’ll make sure I fix. But as for the war, the Mitans, Virrians, gods, and demigods mention the possible war multiple times, it’s the main focal point of the game. The entire reason why MC is training is because of a possible war, and the entire reason why the gods feel under threat because of MC existing is because of the possible war. As for your last point, I don’t think it’s implied that MC has no idea what they’re doing, rather that they aren’t trained. Some people are born with a natural fighting ability, yes, but a street fighter might not last long against a trained bodyguard, for instance. MC might have good instincts, but they are not trained and don’t have a lot of experience. That’s what the training scene was centered around, MC need to be able to hold their own against skilled military fighters and attackers that Izar might send.

I plan to go back and look over the parts where I agreed should be clarified, and I can take a moment to look over the areas where you were also confused, but I hope I could clear some things up for now. Again, thank you for your feedback. Hopefully I can make Aquarii less confusing. ❤️

MarloweC91 days ago (2 edits) (+2)(-3)

I don't think you ever read your own game.

None of what you just described is in the game, and it also completely contradicts what does happen.

Like, seriously. If any part of what you just said is supposed to be in the game currently, it's majorly, majorly bugged. Not just confusingly written, but actually serious coding errors leaving out huge parts of what's supposed to be there.

Kaiidith89 days ago (1 edit) (+3)(-1)

Well. It just so happens that I also read this IF a while back. At the beginning I was confused, too, yes. But. It cleared up a bit after the fight scene and such.

And even though I haven't begun to read it anew I still remember the conversations about the war and everything.

Also, your initial assumption that you think that the author hasen't read their own story is... honestly uncalled for. Especially if one regards their very forthcoming answers to you. In my eyes it's a tad bit disrespectful to assume such a thing if not intentionally harmful.

I am writing an IF too and this part right here is about the only thing I absolutely despise of being one: we IF authors are so close to our readers and try so damn hard to please everyone...and those insults regarding the worlds and characters we've carefully built are often pretty intertwined with our mental health... I for one would feel so disheartened to get such a reply...

Dear author, please dont take such criticism to heart, especially cause it wasn't kept constructive in my opinion.

Many others, as well as I, truly enjoy the world you've built ☝🏻

And tbh at the beginning...isn't it necessary for the plot and such to be just as confused as the MC? For me it's a sign of good writing the moment the story sweeps me up with some emotion.

The only thing I would love in IFs in general would be more chooseable genders for the ROs. It is adding so much freedom to the story overall and tends to attract a much wider spectrum of readers 🥰

Evie89 days ago(+1)

Thank you for your kind words and feedback. I do agree with your point about how it is necessary for the plot to exclude certain from a main character who is stuck in another world. This is what I was aiming for when writing Aquarii, though I do admit that I may have accidentally included information that was not originally available for readers who did not make certain choices, and I have started to go back and fix that. Hopefully I can clear up any confusion that the current build may have caused. ❤️

MarloweC89 days ago (2 edits) (-5)

I'm not as confused as the MC. I'm more confused than the MC. My entire point is that the MC knows seven billion things I was never told. You'd realize that if you read a single fucking one of my comments before needlessly bashing me and claiming my criticism is not constructive. Especially considering the author clearly has taken it to heart and is making changes based on exactly my criticisms. Fuck you, asshole.

You may think you're being nice, but you're not. You're a piece of shit who's sugarcoating your bullshit. I'm the one saying anything of actual value to anyone.

tytrack083 days ago(+1)(-1)

make your own game if you don’t like this one.

nobody needs “criticism” from some loser who spends their days commenting mean things on people’s games when they can’t even make one.

MarloweC83 days ago (2 edits) (-1)

No one needs baseless comments from some random person who registered 5 hours and posted 5 hours ago solely to bash someone they don't even know.

Also, in case you're an idiot, most professional game critics have never made a game, and most players -- who won't play a game they don't think is good -- have never made a game. If you want a game to be successful, most of the people you need to please have never made a game.

You also seem to be randomly assuming that Erized, who said pretty much the same thing I said, has made a game, otherwise you'd also be bashing them. They haven't.

tytrack083 days ago (1 edit)

this is for @MarloweC because they apparently blocked me:

using the phrase “professional game critics” when everyone can see the furry games on your profile is really funny. touch some grass freak, you’re no critic.

and yes, i created this account to bash you. the creator of this game has no obligation to please you, because nobody cares what you think. maybe you should get a life and some friends who aren’t made out of pixels and then you won’t feel the need to comment on every game on this website.

also erized wasn’t rude with their criticism. you’re the most annoying one in the comments section, and not because of the criticism, but because you seem somehow entitled to another person’s game. as i said before, the creator doesn’t have to make any changes to the game just because you don’t like it.

don’t like the game, don’t play it. play “Tales from the land of lust” instead, you seem pretty invested in it. :))

MarloweC83 days ago (2 edits)

Yeah, you obviously can't read at all.

At no point was I ever rude to the author. You, on the other hand, were extremely fucking rude to myself and billions of other people in the world, and only afterwards was I rude to you in return.

I did not claim to be a professional game critic. No clue where the fuck you got that idea.

I never claimed that the author needs to or even should listen to my criticisms. What I said was that the author did, in fact, listen to my criticisms.

I have absolutely zero cares about that game that you claimed I'm invested in.

Your comment about furries doesn't even make sense. I don't even know how to respond to it because it has no logical substance.

tytrack082 days ago (1 edit)

@MarloweC

you don't think you were rude to the author? seems like i'm not the one who can't read, you told them they don't read their own game. and i’m sure you called someone in the comments an “asshole” and a “piece of shit” and told them to fuck themselves. while they were being really nice too.

you also claim you’re no critic, but when i told you to make your own game, you responded by saying that most professional critics don’t actually make their own game. what are people supposed to get from that? again, i’m not the one who can’t read, am i?

you say things like “i’m the only one saying anything of actual value here”. well i think you should get off that high horse because you’re just a nobody in an itch comments section. your thoughts and feelings on the game don’t matter. yes, maybe the author made some changes and nobody said you can’t criticize in a constructive manner, but you’re just disrespectful. especially to the author who 100% worked hard for this game. i’m sure you don’t often interact with people in real life, but you should fix that attitude before talking to people online, too.

and on the furry comment.. you seem pretty offended by it given that you replied to my comment in like an hour, so it must have some substance. what i clearly meant is that you act like you’re some big shot critic when you actually play freaky furry games on itch and expect people to value your opinion.

we don’t care, weirdo. get a life

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