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Seris6 days ago (5 edits) (+1)

Also, in the dialog there, you spell "exit" as "exist".

Could not find it. Do you remeber in which part that sentence was?

IIRC, I was talking to Xia during the escape from the lab. Likely at the end when we were back in the volcano.

Which reminds me, why was Xia not affected by the heat? And why doesn't she have ear feathers like Nana?

Do you plan to redraw Shira and Serafina and Nana's Fox and Kitsune forms to be more consistent?

-Noticed the 5 round wait for resurrections.
Making it any shorter would make the player pretty much invicible.

Maybe it is my playthrough, but I gain hp through the hp regen still, so losing hp and going to die isn't happening as well. I also found the plant shield, which states that it prevents "can't heal" debuffs. Unfortunately it doesn't, but I think it should allow for normal healing. At least 50% of normal with that buff.

In any case, getting the phoenix TF is late end game. I could see a case being made if you could access this as early as bunny tf, but at this point the balance is certainly pushed towards survival, even if you are missing some pieces of your usual arsenal.

From the other post:

Actually version 0.8 added a item named the Hero's Charm, whoever equips it can analyse enemies. It is in a new cave in the forest of beginnings.

Tried it, like that it doesn't eat up a turn. But I actually referred to buffs and debuffs during the combat, like you can check for your team.

Chest got alrady reported, willl be fixed in next version!

I posted two pics there with the same problem. Did you address both?

The locked place you found is part of a hidden secret quest, none of the collectibles are in there.

Then I don't know where else I can find the missing stuff. I've been running around in the overworld (any area that is not covered with a ceiling) at night as wolf to find that mysterious creature which supposedly appeared as well the unique enemies. Basically only dungeons are still left untouched. and I still have not found anything of relevance.

And thanks for all the reports^^

You're welcome!

In the forest home, is there some code preventing to rest repeatedly to grow your garden?

Wolf's Full Moon Swift Swipe may have used 200 ultimate gauge? I only used one ultimate and went from over 200 to under 100.

Also Xia's Past Times interferes with her taking damage. In fact, the whole concept is counterintuitive. The higher level she is, the less opportunity she has to take damage, which includes skills that make it even less likely in general - both herself and from other party members. If she is meant to be the tank, then being attacked should be enough for blazing. Remake possibly Past Times into a tank skill - guaranteed attack from enemies. Or add such a skill regardless. It definitely would not make me investing into her evasion skill counterproductive anymore.

I got already dozen of those:

I still can't tell where the trail leads here. I can't find the third one no matter I look:

Apparently, you can still redo your "dragon" TF:

Jumping back from Angel Gates leads to the mix of day and night:

Other scene transitions restore it. Going to Heavenly Plains screws with code heavily. I ended even up with no mask at the tnry place when returning from exploring the rest of the islands.

Here another "Nana is Jesus".

No Bee attack skills use honey stack?

Sometimes the engine breaks down and misplaces the drawing of one of the double buffers:

It self-stabilizes when saving the game and taking a screenshot apparently.

Where is the last fairy seed? Can't plant other three due to bug/implementation status:

Ok, I did find the the last one in the casino. For what amounts 2.500.000 coins. A sum I've never managed to accumulate so far. And for the fairy seed it is 4.000.000 coins. It looks less, but tokens cost 100 coins each, which is a lot already. If you truly want to have it accessible the "ignore slot machine" way, you need to drop the price by at least 10 somehow. And compare the stuff you can already buy, if the price is around that range. No one buys Ultramine Orb Elixir for 4.000.000 coins, if the vendor does for 82.000 coins.

The casino guy shouldn't bother Nana again with the while spiel, once you pay for the VIP pass. And automatically recognize Nana so it is no longer needed to swipe the card.

I'm doing the casino slots in cat form and while I see regularly 5x black fuwas, I basically saw even a triple of the other colors which pay more. Just twice where I got 500 or 1000 tokens. Do only 3-5 in a row count even and not merely 2 black - 1 other - 2 black for 4 times? Or must this count from beginning? I had 3 blacks in the places and didn't win anything. The RNG seems not smile on me here. It is unfortunate that the game detects, if it out of focus, so I can't just keep in the background running and that way gain the tokens. The game also crashed once.

Running this longer, this isn't actually guaranteed to rise somewhat quickly, hovering around 3000 tokens for quite a while. Cat form is here underrated.

I also can't tell, if I have already all accessories for each form. Could you make quests for that?

Furandre5 days ago (2 edits)

To differentiate design a little bit, like Melia and Mermaid nana also don't have the exact same design despite being the same species.

Shira and Serina are already redrawn, I think they look perfect. As for Nana, some older forms maybe but only after 1.0.

Looked up the plant shield and it does protect from the debuff but that isn't related to phoenix form inability to heal since that is not a debuff.

Yes that is intentional, it is meant as a end game tf but I let the possibility open to get it early but that comes with way moe risk and preparation.

No unfortunately there is no way to check on them more closly. If you know the status icons you see and will know but that is it.

Yes, that was a tileset error, fixed it do it now works everywhere correctly where that tileset is used.

Looked it up and found all 8 mystical flames outside but I only found 4 out of the 5 mysteria coins so that counter may be up 1 too high.

Sleeping does not affect the growth of plants at all, just looked it up and fixed it now. I mean you certainly could enter and leave the area constantly to pass time until they are grown. It's possible but dosen't sounds like the most fun thing to do but I won't stop anyone from doing it.

Wolf's Full Moon Swift Swipe is a normal attack skil so it dosen't use any ultimate at all. But I think there was such a problem as you mentioned with one of the wolf's ultimates, I think I fixed it already.

Changed it so the skill is only a one target.

That already got fixed, will be in next patch as well.

The end of the trail is in the top left, near the secret woods entrance.

Yes because it is needed for two other events.

So added a check, it should no display the current time right.

Don't think so, only some support skills cost honey.

-Sometimes the engine breaks down and misplaces the drawing of one of the double buffers:
Sorry I can't tell from the screenshot what was going wrong. It dosen't crash the game at least?

I reduced the prices a little bit. And a lot for the Ultramarine Orb Elixir.

The luck is also affected by which of the slot machine you use, each one has other odds. And your fortune also affects the outcome. There is a npc in a quest who gives a hint on which machines have the best odds. And I think they all need to be next to each other in the row and not just in the same row. And yes the crash is known, I think there is also a sign that warns about it, it still getting looked at.

You are missing:
-Blueberry Seeds (Sewers)
-Carrot Seeds (Rabbit Burrow)
-Banana Seeds (Casino)
Also they all work, only Lemon seed isn't working.

I don't plan to add a quest for it but i certainly could make a way to look up which ones you have and are missing!

Seris5 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

Shira and Serina are already redrawn, I think they look perfect. As for Nana, some older forms maybe but only after 1.0.

My issue is that Nana looks more foxish with her face even in kitsune form, while Shira and Serina look basically human with just animal ears and tail. Yet Serina believes her to be kitsune. Not to mention Nana says that all which changed was her fur color when she is clearly even more fox-like as fox in the later images.

BTW, in Kitsune form, the menu shows still the human Nana.

Looked up the plant shield and it does protect from the debuff but that isn't related to phoenix form inability to heal since that is not a debuff.

Equipped Xia with the Plant Shield to protect her from Fantastic Rebirth debuff, but Rise and Shine still didn't work on her.

Looked it up and found all 8 mystical flames outside but I only found 4 out of the 5 mysteria coins so that counter may be up 1 too high.

So I found one hiding behind a fence. Some rim areas seem entirely inaccessible. Otherwise I can still not find the rest.

I ran into a scent trail, which I can't find the next one. Looked at the south.

Yes that is intentional, it is meant as a end game tf but I let the possibility open to get it early but that comes with way moe risk and preparation.

I frankly don't see how you can access that TF early. First off you need 100 coins, which you don't find lying around in a single pile. You also need to defeat the Alraune, which also requires acquiring the Wolf form first. Which is quite a hard battle to be won. Then you need heat protection. At least I didn't find enough stuff without acquiring the Lamia transformation. Can't remember if there were other prereqs than the four key pieces, which are spread over the whole world. Possibly you need the Butterfly TF to access that. That on top me having the Salamander TF with all the heat resistance being bought for that form. So at best a middle game access, if you concentrate on just getting there.

The end of the trail is in the top left, near the secret woods entrance.

Then this should not point straight north, but north-west. Or have another trail in-between. Which I possibly missed the entire time.

Yes because it is needed for two other events.

I thought Lamia and Dragon would work. No reaction at all. But Salamander gives you the bad ending now.

-Sometimes the engine breaks down and misplaces the drawing of one of the double buffers: Sorry I can't tell from the screenshot what was going wrong. It dosen't crash the game at least?

It still draws one buffer at the right place, the other at wrong place, So it basically leads to a constant flickering and kind of overlaying the pictures.

The luck is also affected by which of the slot machine you use, each one has other odds. And your fortune also affects the outcome. There is a npc in a quest who gives a hint on which machines have the best odds. And I think they all need to be next to each other in the row and not just in the same row. And yes the crash is known, I think there is also a sign that warns about it, it still getting looked at.

I remember talking to the NPC, and I got told that the middle machine of three together is the worst one. So I thought I can take any machine that is on the side. But even I'd remember the NPC, I can't repeat the talk. No clue what then the best machine is.

Ignition Feathers seems kinda weak compared to the other skills. Also killed myself with the Self Destruction, but despite having the dojo improvement Rise from the Ashes, I only revived with 50% hp instead 100% (maybe because my fight ended there?). Hmm, on a second round, the restored hp might be 40% hp. Also the Max HP down is gone. Everlasting Phoenix's Tail seems kinda pointless with the dojo buy.

I wonder how the first Phoenix came to be. Apparently, as Xia is a real phoenix, Nana's TF isn't fake, or just half-phoenix. So Xia likely transformed herself in the past as well. It kinda indicates that Phoenixes don't reproduce normally or they would be rare. So there doesn't seem to be an actual bird around from which the feathers came from.

BTW, having just wings and not hands is inconvenient, but can't the Owls and Phoenixes use their feet?

Furandre4 days ago

That's more because they both perfectly know how to use their powers while Nana is struggling and learning to adapt, resulting often ina more "imperfect form" of her shapeshifting.

And yes that is intentional at the moment.

Yup that "Can't Heal" Debuff is special, in the first beta it could be removed with that strategy but it was changed for balacing reasons.

Want me to list them? Could do that:
-On top of the frozen dungeon (Two Flames)
-On the frozen lake
-Near the Hidden Fields
-On a small isling that needed to be glided over
-Near the demon behind a bush, barely visble
-On the fields
-Behind the broken ruins

The next trail is south near a tree.

Well, there is ng+ and the fact that it is a secret tf, most people won't even know about it in their first playthrough to begin with. And there are always people that are insanely competent about reaching stuff early or winning impossible fights. I absolutely don't hurt to give those people the possibility if they want to try it. And no extra tf's (and also secret tf's) are never needed to access any tf's or progress trough the game. It obviously is still hard to do but you don't even need extra heat resistance if you have high max hp you could tank through, in the end it comes down to skill, knowledge and preparation.

Yes there is another scent trail, at the point where the road takes a turn.

Bad ending is one of the other two events I was refering two. But yes the bad ending is the main reason it stays there. So you can't miss it.

I see, that is intersting. I never heard reports of it or experince myself so I willl wait and see if other will report such a bug as well. These sort of things can sometimes be triggered not by the game but the computer it is played on. I heard that newer computers often have problems with older rpg maker games. So I sadly can't do anything about it for now until I have more reports to confirm the cause and fix it.

You remember correctly. The middle ones have the worst odds. The odds from all other machines still differ but not that much and the middle ones are way worse than any other. There is not "one"best machine but a few are slightly better than others.

I increased the dmg multiplyer by one level, it should now inflict more dmg. Healing rates can be affected by various stats like max hp down or healing effects down. As well as equipment and character stasts. That may be true but not everyone will buy the dojo upgrade. There aren't nearly enough flames to get every upgrade in only one playthrough without ng+ or cheating. But I do agree with you that it is rendering taht skill more useless.

That certainly is an intersting theory<3 I can confirm that they are indeed rare, so rare even, that people thought them to be just a fairy tale. I think something along those lines also is mentioned in game.

Yes, Xia uses a bow as her weapon. It currently isn't stated in game or artwork but she is using that one with her talons. I do want to add that information in some optional dialogue with her in the future. And Nana could do it in theory as well but isn't skilled enough.

Seris4 days ago(+1)

That's more because they both perfectly know how to use their powers while Nana is struggling and learning to adapt, resulting often ina more "imperfect form" of her shapeshifting.

I feel that this should be remarked upon then by other characters.

Yup that "Can't Heal" Debuff is special, in the first beta it could be removed with that strategy but it was changed for balacing reasons.

So you have an item that can't do what it claims to do? This is simply inconsistent. I think then it would be better to make Xia as unhealable as Nana, unless this is a reflection of her inexperience?

Want me to list them? Could do that: -On top of the frozen dungeon (Two Flames) -On the frozen lake -Near the Hidden Fields -On a small isling that needed to be glided over -Near the demon behind a bush, barely visble -On the fields -Behind the broken ruins

So I have 5 already, let's see in order of listing.

Check and Check
Check
Is that another name for the Snow field region? Likely check. I did find a place where I think a MF would be hidden.
The one close to the blue chest. Check.
Check? Wait, this would be Check number 6. Can't be right. Hidden Fields is likely wrong then.
The four fields close to the cabin? Can't find anything there.
Broken ruins with the Angel Gate? IIRC, I asked you already about that one. Definitely check.

Is then counter broken or am I just too dumb to find them. I think, I'll send you my save, then you can check that yourself and post pictures where the missing ones are, if they are there. https://ufile.io/e2c2d0tw

Well, there is ng+ and the fact that it is a secret tf, most people won't even know about it in their first playthrough to begin with. And there are always people that are insanely competent about reaching stuff early or winning impossible fights. I absolutely don't hurt to give those people the possibility if they want to try it. And no extra tf's (and also secret tf's) are never needed to access any tf's or progress trough the game. It obviously is still hard to do but you don't even need extra heat resistance if you have high max hp you could tank through, in the end it comes down to skill, knowledge and preparation.

Ok, ng+ I accept that it reduces the amount of the work to get the prereqs done to get the required item (though I haven't checked what you can do buy exactly to help with this). But no amount of competence can help with needing to finish a lot of work (though it improves the chances certainly to succeed) in a normal game at least, outside the heat issue.

That may be true but not everyone will buy the dojo upgrade. There aren't nearly enough flames to get every upgrade in only one playthrough without ng+ or cheating. But I do agree with you that it is rendering taht skill more useless.

So no boost to the skill in case you have the upgrade? If no, then you could add the fire immunity to the upgrade. If triggered, Fire Immunity for X rounds. That makes the dojo upgrade into a permanent version of the skill with no downside, but you pay for it after all.

Furandre4 days ago (1 edit)

True good point, will note it down for the planned text revision in that area!

Could be misleading, you are right, will rename that debuff to something else to avoid confusion.

With hidden fields i meant the one near the npc where you get the sabertooth tf. I meant still in the frozen tundra at the south east part where the lake is frozen over, it is there in plain sight, maybe harder to spot because of colors. Yes in one of the fields is a flame, i think it was the one you need to burrow into. And yes, it was the one you asked about before, you should have the last one. Always could be the case. Sure i can take a look later at the save!

Ng+ can pretty much carry over all except levels and most tf's. And yeah it still would be difficult.

I will look into it, it certainly can't hurt to buff it. You're right! Thanks!

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