Dude, I'm not saying that the dead ends are canon, what I'm saying is that the idea of connection to the dream world and infinite energy was presented in the "eye" dead end and that it may be possible for these abilities to appear as in some future evolution because it's too good an idea to be left in a scene that some won't even see and that is not canon, and yes, the author has enough imagination to come up with such an idea.
dude he left multiple good ideas behind in the game like mc being able to fucking go against hero. and just because its hinted at doesn't mean he actually thought about it and another person from the discord probably came up with the idea plus there's a game feedback area in the discord. and you still haven't said which dead end event since you know it doesn't happen plus there's multiple eye dead ends and some you have to get specific stuff just to get so you aren't even saying which dead end. heck he even admitted multiple times in social media most of the stuff comes from user inspired stuff and that he DOESNT have enough imagination. heck he cant even remember half the lore that's in the game
Just to counter your comment. About the MC being able to go against the hero, at the beginning of the game, when the MC's identity is revealed to the world after the mall event. and you're going to escape the mainland. Nico kidnaps you, Michael, Alice, and Deryl to H.E.R.O. There is a dead end, where if you reject H.E.R.O's proposal, Nico will teleport you to space and you will die. And you will get a bad ending "You're not the ultimate lifeform just yet".
So, it's stupid for MC to go against H.E.R.O at his current level, H.E.R.O has many options to deal with MC and his friends. But when MC reaches level 5 and awakens the full power of THE EYE, there will probably be a chance for us to go against H.E.R.O and cut ties. I hope so! I was really upset when H.E.R.O's arc came out, and we were forced to join H.E.R.O with no choice, I liked the vibe of MC being a lone wolf.
dude we had a fucking chance to cut ties when nico came to "rescue" us while we were infiltrating the enemy's base the boss of the enemies offered to us for mc to join him and we had no choice in the matter at all. and he isn't even the fucking same level he is when his identity got revealed he has far more power like are you mentally alright?
Let's break this down from the start. S.I.N., Jared's father's version of HERO, falls short in several ways. While Ella herself is powerful, the organization as a whole lacks strength. Remove her and her students, and what's left? A group that mostly survives thanks to a horde of monsters—yet even those wouldn't stand a chance against a single Level 5 HERO captain.
Now, let's consider the strategic aspect. HERO has been around much longer, with far superior resources, knowledge, and power. From a purely tactical standpoint, it makes far more sense for the MC to leverage HERO to grow as a superhuman, maximize his potential, and only then cut ties when he's powerful enough to stand on his own. Why rely on S.I.N., an objectively weaker group, when HERO offers better opportunities for self-improvement?
There's also the issue of control. SIN members had to make a pact, and Charlie's power is notoriously strong. Unless the MC had significantly leveled up his Memory trait skills, countering Charlie’s mental manipulation would be nearly impossible. We’ve already seen that the MC struggled against Jake’s mental abilities during the prison arc, and they were both just at Level 2. If Jake's mind tricks were enough to affect him, then Charlie—who is likely even stronger—would have an easy time manipulating him.
And then there’s the power gap. MC fighting Nico (Level 5) is already a stretch, but facing five Level 5 captains and their entire teams? That's a death sentence. There’s simply no realistic scenario where he comes out on top unless he undergoes significant growth first.
That said, while I initially had issues with the MC being forced to join HERO after his identity was revealed, this decision makes more sense when looking at long-term consequences rather than just short-term frustration. If the MC exploits HERO’s resources, knowledge, and training to reach Level 5 and awaken THE EYE, then neither HERO nor SIN will be a real threat to him anymore. That would be the ultimate power play.
At the end of the day, though, this is all speculation. We should just let Weirdworld cook and see how things unfold—so for now, hold your horses!
ok so just assuming mc is a retard who fights everything he sees and can only attack and not sneak around even through he literally got into their main fucking base near the start of the game. and your so fucking stupid you think Jared's father actually controls sin when his ass doesn't even have more power then some recruits. and you realize they literally almost killed Nico right? who is literally fucking level 5 and Charlie's power doesn't only affect the mind and isn't even focused on it she's literally a type who puts the pact on your HEART not mind. and even fucking Cole when he was weaker resisted it. and we have only hero's words that they have been around as long as you say and most of it is actually classified and they have lied about history before and literally admitted they did. and hero has barely helped our mc grow like literally all of his power ups he got from friends or his own workout so we have no proof that they can actually help the mc more heck we have proof they cant seeing as how sin can control monsters and can give mc ANY monster parts he needs or wants while hero doesn't and needs to capture monsters. and your assuming mc hasn't grown AT ALL since prison arc even through he's god level compared to when the prison arc happened. and mc even resisted jake depending on which stats you had and could even harm jake and kill him. and its funny you think hero wouldn't ensure they can kill mc by the time he's level 5 seeing as how they have someone who can literally just say death and even ella died. and could even disable his powers by that time if they have gotten more advanced seeing as how its been months since we went into the monster world
Ah yes, because clearly, the only possible explanation for disagreeing with you is assuming the MC is a brain-dead berserker who just swings at everything in sight. Stealth? Strategy? No, must be that everyone else is just “so fucking stupid” for considering different perspectives. Brilliant start.
Now, about Jared’s father and S.I.N.—nobody said he has absolute control, but dismissing his influence entirely is just as dumb. Even if he’s not the strongest individual, his role in shaping S.I.N. and its ideology is undeniable. Influence isn’t just about raw power; it’s about legacy, connections, and positioning within the organization. Also, you’re really bringing up “almost killing Nico” as proof of strength? Yeah, because “almost” winning is totally the same as actually winning, right?
As for Charlie’s power affecting the heart instead of the mind—cool, semantics. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s still a form of control, and resisting it still requires a strong will, which, surprise, is heavily tied to mental resilience. Cole resisting it doesn’t prove it’s weak; it proves Cole had the right conditions to push through. Meanwhile, the MC’s resistance isn’t a guarantee—it depends on stats and choices, meaning it’s not as cut-and-dry as you’re making it seem.
Now onto HERO. Yes, they’ve lied before—because, shocking revelation, big organizations tend to manipulate narratives. But if you’re using that as an argument against them, the same logic applies to S.I.N., which isn’t exactly known for being a beacon of honesty and transparency either. Both sides have their secrets, so let’s not pretend S.I.N. is some shining bastion of truth just because HERO has its own classified history.
Regarding MC’s growth—no one’s saying he hasn’t improved, but acting like he’s suddenly untouchable compared to the prison arc is wild exaggeration. Yeah, he’s stronger, but so are his enemies. Power scaling doesn’t exist in a vacuum, and just because he can harm Jake doesn’t mean he’s beyond being countered by stronger threats.
And finally, your argument about HERO ensuring they can kill MC if he gets too strong? That’s literally the point—HERO isn’t some benevolent daycare, it’s a system of control. That doesn’t mean MC shouldn’t use it to his advantage. You’re arguing as if acknowledging the risks somehow invalidates the strategy of exploiting their resources while keeping an eye on potential betrayals. That’s just smart survival.
So, in short—your argument is basically a mix of exaggerations, selective reasoning, and a lot of misplaced confidence. But hey, keep going. Watching people twist logic into a pretzel is always entertaining.
and lying again seeing as how you said NO one in sin stands even a chance against a level 5 which is a complete lie and your ass said that mc would take on all the captains and their teams head on so yeah dumb fuck and your bitch ass even said that it's Jared's father's version of sin which would imply he has sole control since it's his version right bitch boy? nope he doesn't have sole control and he actually barely helped them and they are only using him for some more money. and it's funny you say his influence is undeniable yet we have seen no fucking examples of it at fucking all heck some people straight just called Jared a bitch after he tried to use the do you know who my daddy is card. and Cole is the one who called him basically a bitch. and we have no fucking proof Charlie's shit is tied to mental heck we have proof it's tied to physical seeing as how Cole literally spat blood when he fucking resisted it and barely fucking reacted. and MC is way more mentally strong then Cole so even if it was mental mc could easily fucking resist it plus a fucking Cole who's way weaker then he is now did resist it easily and his ass is mentally weak. and we have no proof or anything about sin being secretive heck they even said on live TV that people will have to swear a fucking oath and draw something on themselves before going. a fucking toddler could figure out that there's gonna be some power shit at play when they do this like literally your fucking stupid if you think drawing a fucking mark into yourself after being told to by superpowers people who defy the laws of physics will go well. and it's funny your bitch ass says twisting like I'm doing it yet your entire fucking shit is wrote around trying to read behind the lines and twist what I said.
Now, that is a such an eloquent and well-reasoned response. Truly, the pinnacle of debate. Let’s break this down bit by bit since you seem so emotionally invested in throwing insults instead of actual arguments.
First off, no one said literally no one in S.I.N. could stand a chance against a level 5. What was said is that, overall, S.I.N. superhuman is weaker than HERO at high levels, especially if you take out key members. That’s called context, something you seem to have a personal vendetta against.
As for the MC taking on all the captains and their teams head-on—where did that come from? If you’re going to argue, at least argue against what was actually said, not whatever headcanon you just invented in a fit of rage. Strategy exists, and no one is suggesting the MC just charges in blindly like an NPC on easy mode.
Now onto Jared’s father. Again, no one said he has sole control over S.I.N., but dismissing his influence entirely is just as dumb. “He barely helped them and they’re using him for money”? Yeah, because funding a faction that opposes HERO totally doesn’t give you leverage at all, right? Money is power, and being a financial backbone still grants influence, whether direct or indirect.
And your "we have seen no examples of influence at all" take? So just because Jared failed to intimidate some people by flexing his dad’s name, that proves his father has zero pull? Yeah, because every person in every organization automatically respects their higher-ups 100% of the time, right? Definitely how power structures work. If one soldier disrespects a general, I guess the general has no influence. Brilliant logic.
Now, about Charlie’s power—do you seriously think something can only be mental or only be physical? Ever heard of psychosomatic effects? The brain and body are connected, genius. Just because Cole spat blood resisting doesn’t mean it’s purely physical—it could easily be both. And your claim that "MC is way more mentally strong than Cole so he could easily resist it" Maybe he is... but not at his current level of power.It's pure headcanon, finding out that Strength ≠ automatic immunity.
And then we get to the absolute masterpiece of your argument: “We have no proof that S.I.N. is secretive.” Ah yes, because making superhuman swear an oath as initiation ritual, on live TV . totally means they have no hidden agenda. Right. You really think that’s all there is to it? That they just lay everything out for the world to see? That’s adorable.
And finally, the absolute cherry on top: “Your entire shit is twisting what I said.” The irony of this statement is just chef’s kiss perfection. You’ve spent this entire rant misrepresenting arguments, ignoring context, and throwing around “ throwing insults” like you’re in a middle school locker room, and I’m the one twisting things? That’s rich.
But hey, I get it. When you run out of actual points, just start flailing insults and hoping something sticks. Unfortunately for you, it doesn’t!
Let's break this down from the start. S.I.N., Jared's father's version of HERO, falls short in several ways. While Ella herself is powerful, the organization as a whole lacks strength. Remove her and her students, and what's left? A group that mostly survives thanks to a horde of monsters—yet even those wouldn't stand a chance against a single Level 5 HERO captain. that was your exact words fucking retard and even the pink monster girl who literally isn't one of her fucking students literally took on multiple level 5 s so your just lying about your own fucking post now your trying to change it to key members when you have never fucking said that retard. and your ass said every captain and their team fucking retard so yeah and you even said rush in your fucking self. and you fucking realize bitch that he's barely giving them any money right? like not even 10 percent of their money comes from him they literally have their own fucking company that they run that's bigger then his company and your bitch ass said that ITS HIS VERSION OF SIN so yeah he'd need FULL control of it so yes you did fucking say he has full control which is a lie. dude mc literally fucking resisted Jake who even the fucking Creator of the game said is stronger then charlie mental aspect and Cole is NOT mentally stronger then me and your bitch ass is the only one using the power means immunity seeing as how your bitch ass thinks since Cole is a higher level then my he has stronger mind even though my was able to pierce and control coles mind when Cole had way more power then him you fucking retard. ok and still twisting shit. i never said they aren't secretive or that they don't have secrets I just said they don't fucking lie heck even charlie answered one of our questions after we literally pierced her fucking dream. and it's funny you say I'm twisting shit yet don't even remember what your bitch ass said
and it's not a different perspective when it's just a blatant fucking lie and even a teen who's never seen battle experience wouldn't fucking fight over 10 people who could crush him easily head on and just using no fucking strategy and only keep using the same attack. heck he'd know to attack from shadows and shit since if they see him he's dead
Oh yes, because clearly, anyone who disagrees with you must be blatantly lying and not, you know, interpreting the story differently. But sure, let’s pretend that screaming “blatant fucking lie” automatically turns your opinion into an absolute fact.
Now, about the MC not using strategy—no one ever said he would just charge in recklessly to fight 10 overpowered enemies with no plan at all. That’s a massive strawman you created because it’s easier to argue against something no one actually said than to engage with the real discussion.
And this part: "heck, he'd know to attack from shadows and shit since if they see him, he's dead."—exactly. The game has already shown that the MC does know how to use stealth when necessary. So why act like the only possible scenario is him running in like a lunatic to get slaughtered?
The funny thing is, you're criticizing something that no one even said and trying to refute a point that doesn't exist. That’s not an argument—that’s just throwing a tantrum.
Sorry, pal, but that's not happening. I'm not creating a Discord account just to drop one or two counterarguments about the game. Besides, the comment section exists for a reason—we might as well use it to its fullest.
Actually, don’t even get me started. I still remember the good old days of debating anime and theories in YouTube comments! 😂