Post by Dawdling Dog, ltd. in Bug Reporting 101 (Updated 6/28)

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Hey there,
I'm still investigating the cause of this bug. It seems to either be two separate bugs, or one bug that presents in different ways. So I'd like to collect more information, if you guys would be so kind:

After a period of time, were you able to cancel out of the menu?
Is it a consistent issue that occurs for you, every single time?
What are your PC specs, if you know them?

I'm starting to get a rough idea as to what might be causing it, but I'm not entirely certain yet. The more information that I have, the better! I'm currently unable to recreate this in any form of consistent manner. So the more I know, the more I have to work with :)

Freeshark4 years ago(+1)

After a while I can SOMETIMES get it to back out of the menu, but not with any consistency and I haven't tried timing it

It happens to me every single time, it doesn't matter what kind of item

I'm on a years old lenovo laptop. I don't know the specific specs but I can usually run games like this without any problems. I can run Skyrim and New Vegas on medium settings so I don't think my specs are the problem

I don't know if this is related but I thought to try turning off the visual filters but every time I reset the game the setting goes back to being on

Dawdling Dog, ltd.4 years ago

Hi Freeshark,

I went ahead and made a change on my internal build to try and address the issue. When the next update hits on Tuesday, hopefully it will be addressed. I'm not entirely sure if the change will work, as I can't get the issue to crop up for me, but if it doesn't then I can move towards another attempt at a fix. Sorry for the slow movement on it!

-- Ryan

Freeshark4 years ago(+1)

I tried the new update and can report that it's still happening, but now it sometimes works and sometimes becomes unresponsive. I did some experimenting and it'll go back to being responsive after 10-12 seconds.

Dawdling Dog, ltd.4 years ago

Thanks for the update! I'm gonna have to do some digging into the menu code to figure out what's going on. Sorry for the trouble, and I'm glad to hear that it works to some extent now (even if it's not anywhere close to ideal). I'll get back to you ASAP, once I better know what's occurring or how to approach it.

Freeshark4 years ago

Tried the new update, the problem is still occurring. Still enjoying the game in spite of it.

Dawdling Dog, ltd.4 years ago

Hey Shark,

Sorry to hear that, but thank you for the update! Can you tell me if there's any form of information in your log file (install location\www\log.txt) if you have it occur and then exit the game?

Here's the situation: the main menu doesn't use the same input system as the rest of the game for reasons that are valid, but a bit in depth. What's occurring is that there appears to be fringe cases where the input is grabbed, but isn't properly handed off to the menu. It takes 10 or so seconds for this hand off to fail, and that's when it will allow you to try it again. I haven't been able to figure out what causes the hand off to fail, however, as it seems to be tied to hardware in some odd way.

I don't want you to think that I'm blowing you off, as I'm 100% dedicated to getting that bug squashed, just balancing between trying to recreate that bug, working on the weekly stuff, and the behind the scenes stuff. I've been in touch with a few folks trying to figure out exactly what the issue is. It's a very strange bug, and I'm happy to tell you that it's given some incredibly gifted programmers some head scratches!

But yes, if it's printed anything into that log file after the bug occurs (the log is cleared every time you launch the game), please do let me know!

Also, out of curiosity, does it occur when equipping gear or just for consumables? I've only ever seen it impact consumables myself, hence my asking.

Freeshark4 years ago

I've never had any problems equipping things. I've only ever had it happen on consumables. I realized that I was able to use a "scroll of power" (or something, I don't remember the exact name) during an experiment so it seems to specifically be a problem when I have to specifically use the item on myself such as with potions and repair kits.

To see if anything appeared in the log I opened a save, lost a fight, started the blacksmith's sidequest, and tried using a potion a couple of times and accidentally discovered that the scroll item worked. The following information was in the log after I exited the game:

[INFO 7/8/2020 07:27:31pm] [ConsoleTrace] Set trace level Debug in file Log.txt
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:28:47pm] custom value
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:28:47pm] custom value
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:28:47pm] custom value
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:28:47pm] custom value
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:28:58pm] 0.03
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:28:59pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:00pm] 0
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:07pm] 0.03
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:12pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:14pm] 0.03
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:15pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:16pm] 0
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:19pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:20pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:22pm] 0.03
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:23pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:24pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:31pm] 0
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:32pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:33pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:34pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:38pm] 0.0345
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:39pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:41pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:43pm] 0.0345
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:44pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:46pm] 0
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:52pm] 0.0345
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:29:54pm] 0.08399999999999999
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:34:25pm] false
[INFO 7/8/2020 07:34:47pm] false

Dawdling Dog, ltd.4 years ago

Hi Freeshark,

Do you play on controller, or KB/M?

Freeshark4 years ago

I prefer a controller but the error happens when I use my 360 controller, dualshock 4, and the mouse and keyboard. That error log was from gameplay with a controller if that makes any difference.

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