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Oh that's great to hear, thanks for letting me know!

This is weird, and I'm pretty sure nobody else is reporting the same. This looks like an issue with the files not being there, I would try removing the game and installing it again and see if that sorts it for you? There's a chance it takes a bit of hard drive space on first launch, I assume you have a gigabyte or so free on your hard drive (I ask because there is another crash someone is getting because their hard drive is completely full).

I'm making use of this excellent tool in my project now and I'd like to list you in the credits, should I put "Azagaya" or something else? And link to this page, the github page, or something else

Okay only issue  is I can't seem to get the preset working from the command line. I   can  create a preset in the gui and export it somewhere, but whatever I try to point the  arguments at the preset file, whether in the same directory or not, doesn't seem to get used. The defaults would be fine actually, if only they included transparency/copying the alpha channel.  Is there something I'm missing or is this perhaps a bug with the command line usage?

Purchased it now officially and it's perfect!  Thought I should tell you about the tiniest of bugs, that from the command line the --no-gui flag works as intended but -g does not (at least according to --help)

Oh that's incredible, thank you!

Hello, thank you for putting out such a great tool at name your own price! Is it possible to generate normal maps using only the command line with it? Would be awesome if I could   include  it   into an automated pipeline

Could you try going to where the game is installed and edit the seed.txt file? The second line defines the map size and is set to 400x300 currently. Could you try putting this to 200x150, saving the file then starting a new game? If memory is an issue that should overcome it by setting a smaller map size.

Just putting that update out now!

You could call it a bug, I think the top priority is still overridden by the priority of the dwarves wanting to work on their professions first before jobs that don't require a specific profession (like firefighting can be done by anyone) so I clearly need to change that, I'm also going to make it so extinguish job orders get spread when the fire itself spreads out.

Hi there, very sorry  I've not seen this post until now. Please can you attach the log.txt file that's in the same location as the  game launcher?  Hopefully that will shed some light on what's crashing in this instance.

One or the other yes, sorry for missing the February update, hate it when that happens, just crazy busy!

Hello, sorry you're having issues, that all sounds a bit unusual. Could you post a screenshot of how it is appearing on the laptop please?

Are you sure that's the version you're running? If you go to wherever you unzipped the game to and open the  changelog.txt file, what is at the top? It should read

Alpha 4.2.3 - 24th November 2020
- Fixed a crash when deconstructing a wall that was not constructed
- Fixed an issue with map generation for very small maps

If it's the latest version.  In fact the text in the bottom left of the main menu tells you which version it is.  I've just downloaded and run the game through Itch.io myself to check and it is Alpha 4.2.3 for me as expected. Perhaps you've a shortcut or something pointing at an old version?

Saved game management is the feature I'm working on right this minute, so while it's painful to do in the current version (you can do it by taking a copy of the quicksave.save file in the King under the Mountain/saves directory, most likely in your documents. 

The river being stone is an extremely rare bug that I need to capture a map seed for to recreate so I  can investigate and fix it. 

Hi there, good question, you probably need to download the latest zip and play with that (it will keep your settings and save files, though save files tend to become invalid between major updates). You can use the itch.io client to keep it up to date automatically.

Interesting! Clearly know your stuff :) I suppose they are kegs but at this stage I'm just using them as a generic crafting ingredient which is why I'm using tank rather than keg, though keg does seem better and fits better yeah. Perhaps if they're only used in the brewery in the end keg would be best overall.  The all-in-one station is  supposed to represent the proper drying/steeping/germination processes, just in one piece of furniture so it doesn't add a crazy workload to the dwarves,  though at this stage that's not really shown or animated.

I definitely want to have other historical alcoholic drinks like mead and cider in the future, though I suppose both of those need the addition of their main ingredients first. Maybe I just need to add an aging process so then other drinks like whisky could be modded in at this point.

Haha yep that's exactly why it's needed :)

Hey, thanks for getting in touch! I've had a go at trying to reproduce some of the main issue described here (with the kitchen and feasting hall water barrels) though mine seem to work okay over about a year, please could I get you to email your save file to ross@kingunderthemounta.in and I'll have a look at what's going on to see if I can fix it.

The job priority is a bit of an issue right now but the two remaining features to implement for the current alpha are manual crafting selection and job prioritisation, so I think I'll leave this one until the job prioritisation is in place, which might fix it straight away, or at least hopefully put some controls in place so the player can manually prioritise planting over other things.

Thanks :) Hopefully all sorted with crashes again for now but we will see!

Just wanted to say, thank you for having crash reporting switched on, let me discover and fix the most recent crashes in the game (and apologies that you're trying to play and it keeps crashing!) have a 3.6.2 fix on the way shortly

Massively apologies for that, hit really hard with disruption due to COVID-19, but good news is in just a few days will have more time than I've had in the past year to dedicate to gamedev! Hopefully a small dev update coming soon to explain that.

So a dwarf was stuck in a pillar and never moved out? I'll see if I can recreate that happening. Dwarves often get stuck under furniture as its created but usually free themselves quite quickly.

I'm a bit confused as to what's going on here - you moved to a different area but none of the original resources would move over? Were they still on the original stockpile? This would need removing, but at that point the resources should be moved to any new, available stockpiles. I'm currently rewriting the allocation system for resources which will hopefully deal with any outstanding bugs in this area.

At the moment, no both mushrooms and mushroom trees don't regrow naturally. This might be changed, but its based on the idea that mushrooms need something to grow from (like the logs), so perhaps they could grow around graves? The mushroom trees are meant to be very old so might not grow over the course of a normal game. Haven't really decided yet!

Phew a lot to get through here! Thanks to Bofferbrauer to answering where possible:

First thing that I encounter is that the save game is not valid anymore, sounds reasonable.

Yep, it tries to be clever about it. If the save includes anything which isn't in the current version of the game, either because it was removed or renamed, it won't be compatible, but other than that saves should be compatible with older versions. When the game is closer to release I'll put more time into making sure saves are compatible.

The first thing I noticed is the resource and settlers tab, great.  The one thing I miss is to prioritize things.

A priority system is one of the biggest requests so I'll be working on this (for alpha 4) after the current update (for alpha 3).

At the start you get Iron plates, I haven't seen that before. What is the 'normal' purpose?

Just a new type of item/resource for more complex constructions.

Dwarfs carrying a rock walking in some circles in the resource zone before bringing the rock to the stonemason. ... Note: I was running on full speed

This is a bug with the pathfinding at faster speeds, I'll have to either come up with a solution to it or reduce the maximum speed. Obviously the former is much more preferable!

Order a door to be build on a spot with a rock on it is valid. But when the stones for the door arrive and the rock is not picked up yet the dwarf will return to the resource zone with the stone. ... I suggest a easy fast fix to not allow the build because the space is not empty.

Weird as that's how it's supposed to work already - there's a progress state to constructions and if there's anything blocking the tile, they should be removed before any new materials are brought. Let me know if this happens again and I'll see if I can recreate it.

My miners do not mine any more (still year one), see screenshot. For days the miners do not mine even when Idle.

From looking at your save I think this is because the mining pickaxes got stuck on "assigned". My current piece of work is to try and fix this.

The bedroom comfortable size has increased from 12 to 13 spaces, why? I like some symmetry so 15 or 16 spaces will be optimal then.

I did this just to mess with people like you and me that like it to be symmetrical :) I'll have to remember to make sure this is moddable in case it really bothers people.

What was the max room-size in the mountain again, like then to use pillars?

A mined-out area of 7x7 tiles with no walls or pillars will eventually collapse.

How to cancel more then one ordered wall builds? I tried a outside building but found out that the space was to small. I had to cancel each space at a time, that seems wrong.

This is an issue which needs improving. Some kind of UI tool to mass-deconstruct things. It's on the backlog to go with constructing outdoor rooms.

What is the purpose of the Earthworks?

At the moment it is just an outdoor-only type of area for the charcoal clamp to be built in. The name is a bit unusual and could do with improving.

Is it possible to add the feature for exclude or include resources in a resource zone

Yep this is also coming in the near future!

The new settlers don't chop/mine..

Were they assigned to these jobs when they arrived? If not, it's due to a lack of tools which I need to make clearer. Some of the points here and elsewhere are convincing me to put in a tutorial sooner rather than later.

I saw that I have some fishing rods. How can I use them?

Fishing is not implemented yet but some of the items are still in the game, similar to hops/barley for brewing which is also not implemented yet.

Gunborg Ironbeard one of the first 2 miners stopped mining. I can't fix it.

Hopefully this is also because of the assignments bug that I'm currently working on.

I don't know how to create a bronze anvil?

You need a forge to create an anvil, but creating a forge requires an anvil. Your settlers start with one anvil so don't lose it! :)

the blacksmith. This building has a bug, the placeholder is not replaced with the correct value

Thank you for pointing that out, wish I had seen this thread earlier and I would have fixed it sooner!

When you make an order to build something and you cancel it because it is the wrong thing, wrong type of stone or something the cancellation is not correct. It seems as the building is still on the stack/queue so the parts will still be delivered.

Thanks, that's something I need to look at.

One more assigned bug, I made a new resource zone close to the mountain I started making rooms. But then I didn't want them because I wanted the boulders close to the masonry workshop. So I removed the resource zone. As you can see in the next image the boulder assigned to the removed zone will not get a new assignment, event after reboots and days of game time. 

Sounds like the assignment bug again, here's hoping I can find out what's causing it.

Chairs seems always before the dwarfs, I thing it is niceer to do it on the chair position, so the upper one is wrong the lower one is correct

Down-facing chairs are set a bit higher up in the world and up-facing chairs lower so this is supposed to be what happens, but it doesn't always work quite right. I think there's a small change that can be done to make it work a bit better.

My tomato's where harvest in 2d day of winter, or not. Because it didn't work or they are lost, they are gone, I didn't get the tomato's or seeds.. To bad..

It is a case of "too bad" at the moment, sorry :)

In the winter (day 2) they still try to harvesting plants that are in 'rot/remove' state (first image). This can be hard because the farmers will remove pest instead of harvest good crops at the last day of autumn

I'll need to make sure that harvest jobs are higher priority by default.

I tried to produce alot of food and that worked with the problem of keeping it stored ofcaurse. I use about 50% of the settlers with a farm skill. 

It probably needs changing then as 50% of settlers farming is higher than what I want it to be.

"Crafts items.." will not go away untill a reboot. I don't know who to reporduce but I have seen it more then once

There's an issue with the tooltip display. I need to figure out how to reproduce it myself to fix it. The tooltips also don't always show up when they're supposed to too.

Dwarfs will go to the river to drink water even in there is water in the feasting hall. I seems it will pick the closed water source in bird view and not walking distance..

Yes to avoid pathfinding from every dwarf to every water source they use "as the crow flies" distance for the nearest water source. I could make it so they always prefer a barrel over the river even if its further away?

With more Dwafs it happens more that they get on the same spot, start walking slowly and do so for a long time, until they are in the feasting hall for example, there is a lot of space to take an other path, or just wait so they can both can walk faster..

Thanks for pointing this out, I'm going to do something to improve this.

If you have multiple miners they will mine the same spot. In year 6 I even have seen them mine a mined spot.. So I think there is something with the alocation of the task going wrong:

Definitely seems like something is going wrong. If you see this happening please send me a save at that point in time and I should be able to fix it.

The resources viewer is realy handy to see the count of the block's and it type. I fount out that it is not working well for the cauldron's somehow they get mixed up:

Thanks! Didn't know that the cauldron wasn't working right but I think I know why, I'm going to fix this for the next update.

If you have 2 metalwork's I expect that they do work within one metalwork's but they don't. They can bring a 'bloom' from one to the other at moments you don't want to. 

Great suggestion! I'm going to change it to work this way. It should have been obvious but I haven't played with complex settlements enough :) 

It seems that bringing plank's is a low priority task.

Hmm, almost everything is about the same priority right now. Perhaps they were further away than everything else? I'll look into it.

My kitchen in waiting for 4 silver cauldron but there are iron and bronze cauldron's available in the resource zone next to it:

Thanks, this is a bug I'll look to fix too, I thought I had already fixed this one...

Water consumption seems odd.

Similar to the item assignments, I think there's a problem with water assignments too which I'm looking to fix.

 It would be nice if you can build a aqueduct or something to transfer water from the river into the mountain.

Yep that's the plan! Underground pipes to move water around rather than having to do it by hand.

Settlers will try to do the same task at the same time

That shouldn't happen, is this just the miners mining the same tile or are there others like this?

Thanks again for taking the time to go through all this and sending me those useful saves, it really helps!

Good question! In general yes it'll be mostly hands-off, although military squads will probably be controllable through patrols and guard points. There'll also be a priority system soon which the player can set, which should resolve a lot of the issues with not being able to give direct orders at the moment.

Apologies I've only just seen this topic, that's a lot of feedback! Will get back to you when I've digested it all

Danke!

Great! Curious as to how that caused a problem, I'll look into it, thanks!

The only other thing I can suggest to help investigate this would be for you to run the .exe from the command prompt (assuming you're on windows) and report back with what says for what's going on. At the same time I'd be happy for you to apply for a refund (only Itch.io themselves can initiate them unfortunately or I'd do it myself) and if that removes the game from your library, I'll provide another key while I investigate the issue and hopefully get it working for you.

Oh I didn't know that, thanks, in that case I can add something to the invoice too :)

What happens? What is in the log.txt file?

I see, I'll make an update to the wording on the game's page then, but what's on the invoice is up to Itch.io and out of my control unfortunately

Ah I was about to ask what you meant with your post on the Steam discussion post. The Itch game page does have the following though:

Please note this game is in Early Access - most features are missing and bugs are to be expected. Check out the development roadmap to see upcoming features. As a thank you to early adopters, this early Itch.io edition will include a Steam key once King under the Mountain launches on Steam. You'll also be getting the cheapest price as the cost will increase once the game is ready to launch on Steam

I could add it to the download instructions as well if you think that would help. My current plan is to push a lot of updates/announcements when the Steam keys are available here though.

Thanks! Always love to get some feedback to improve things but I'm not quite sure what you mean here, sorry. Removing walls (even ones you've built) is done with the "Mine" order which does highlight what you've selected. Please could you go into more detail?

I'm currently working on allowing almost every bit of text to support tooltips so things should be a lot better explained soon!

Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention - it's fixed now! New build of alpha 2.3,  it'll be compatible with your saved game.

That's exactly what I was after, thanks, not reproduced it myself yet but I'll put out a new build as an optimistic fix shortly.

Sorry to hear that and I've not had any other reports *yet*. Please could you copy in the contents of the log.txt file after its happened and that should help me to track it down. Also looks like I've had the automatic crash reporting server not working for a while but that is back up now too.

The bottleneck only really comes from drawing lots of stuff on screen at once, like thousands of dwarves. Just having the gigantic map in memory is fine, though of course it takes a bit longer to generate than a normal one. This might have been nearly a minute.

It'll always be a set size, but that size will be configurable by the player. The map can be so large that it's effectively unlimited, here's a stress test of a 2,000,000 tile map https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsgn9Re6J_I